my nearest shell is 20 miles away, no tesco, so I fill up with BP ultimate... this is 97 RON, and has worked fine for 1600 miles so far

Now that is really strange, because when I phoned CS with the same question the answer was 98+, 95 if 98+ not available.

Don't run long term on 95.

I will try to get a final written statement from them when I have finished decorating the back bedroom!!!

Tony

Don't think any one knows for certain !!!!

Mines on order due for delivery April. Don't have anywhere with 98 nearby but Total does 97 so will have to see.

My Clio 200 Cup is 95 or 97 and TBH it never felt like it made any difference as to what you put in ( bar diesel ! )

Don't think any one knows for certain !!!!

Mines on order due for delivery April. Don't have anywhere with 98 nearby but Total does 97 so will have to see.

My Clio 200 Cup is 95 or 97 and TBH it never felt like it made any difference as to what you put in ( bar diesel ! )

I'm generally using 97 BP ultimate, works fine, I've used the 97 total before with no isseus

jesus, if you can afford 14k for a new car surely you can afford decent fuel.

Never seen so many mpg threads on here before.

PLEASE BUY A DIESEL IF YOU WANT MPG AND FUEL SAVINGS

@ sharkrider

97 ron is very likely OK, its going to be close enough to 98 ron to be near as dammit identical so much as the bum dyno can see/feel.

me personally i fill up with Vpower99, tesco99, 98 ron, BP ultimate 97 and the only way id use 95 ron is if i needed to maybe put a fiver in to give enough fuel to get somewhere with better fuel.

That said all my previous cars have been quite heavily tuned and you really can tell the car is pulling back on lower grade fuel. so much so that i could tell if my wife had put 95 in the tank.

jesus, if you can afford 14k for a new car surely you can afford decent fuel.

Never seen so many mpg threads on here before.

PLEASE BUY A DIESEL IF YOU WANT MPG AND FUEL SAVINGS

@ sharkrider

97 ron is very likely OK, its going to be close enough to 98 ron to be near as dammit identical so much as the bum dyno can see/feel.

me personally i fill up with Vpower99, tesco99, 98 ron, BP ultimate 97 and the only way id use 95 ron is if i needed to maybe put a fiver in to give enough fuel to get somewhere with better fuel.

That said all my previous cars have been quite heavily tuned and you really can tell the car is pulling back on lower grade fuel. so much so that i could tell if my wife had put 95 in the tank.

I go for v-power whenever I pass, but its 20 miles away, I try, but like you said BP ultimate is probably good enough

And I agree, I bought the car for the way it feels bouncing it off the red line... (looking forward to sunday ) yes I do go for economy on my way to and from work, but the higher octane give better economy enyway

jesus, if you can afford 14k for a new car surely you can afford decent fuel.

Never seen so many mpg threads on here before.

PLEASE BUY A DIESEL IF YOU WANT MPG AND FUEL SAVINGS

@ sharkrider

97 ron is very likely OK, its going to be close enough to 98 ron to be near as dammit identical so much as the bum dyno can see/feel.

me personally i fill up with Vpower99, tesco99, 98 ron, BP ultimate 97 and the only way id use 95 ron is if i needed to maybe put a fiver in to give enough fuel to get somewhere with better fuel.

That said all my previous cars have been quite heavily tuned and you really can tell the car is pulling back on lower grade fuel. so much so that i could tell if my wife had put 95 in the tank.

Edited 25 February, 201115 yr by dickyd

Not so much the MPG I'm arsed about, just don't have access to 98 ron thats all, I think it's more to do with Skoda not knowing themselves what you are supposed to use ! If I could get that BP super stuff 105 ron I would probably use that TBH ! vvvvvrrrrrrrrooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Point I've personally been trying to make on this forum all along is that 95 RON fuel will not damage a 1.4 TSi engine! Absolutely all the VAG literature I can find on the matter says so. Lower RON or crap quality fuel from a backstreet/supermarket filling station may well do. Also Ultra Low sulphur fuel is no good for modern direct injection engines, thats all most supermarkets sell. I also see alot of people on here use "Tesco" 99 RON....

I never bother filling up at a supermarket as I dont trust what they do with their fuel tanks. They are in the business of selling groceries, fuel is a sideline. A proper service station (Esso, BP, Shell, Texaco) thats all they do day in day out. Thats all I trust.

On another note, makes me laugh the amount of people on this thread that keep spouting on about Shell V Power and using nothing else in a vRS........well lucky you! Like dickyd my nearest Shell garage is miles away! I'd be daft to drive the good 15/20 miles it would take to get there just to fill my tank with V Power. Shell seems to be a bit of a dying breed in the UK, certainly in the south, I rarely pass a Shell station. If I do anything at all I'll be regularly filling it up with BP Ultimate from my filling station 1.5 miles down the road.

At the end of the day as nice as the Fabia vRS is, it is utlimately a very cheap hot hatch and thats why many of us have bought them. It's certainly the only 14k estate supermini with 180ps that I could find! But thats largely my point, £14k this day and age is a cheap car, being bought by people who are largely concious of money and what they spend it on, fuel costs included. In an ideal world I would have bought the wife an Audi S4 Avant, be throwing Super Unleaded in it twice/three times a week and been done with it, but I cant afford one or its running costs for that matter!

If I can get away with putting 95 RON in my vRS with little or no appreciable loss in drivability thats probably what i'll be doing. If it makes a big difference i'll use Ultimate. I admit in a tuned car its a completely different story, certainly in Janners big HP Octy but in a standard Fabia vRS I would place money on the difference being negligible and my life on the fact it wouldnt cause engine damage.

This seems to be a really long thread over a very simple issue.

The VRS is a hot hatch, putting out approximately 180 BHP, it is never going to give really good mpg. A lot can be said about the official fuel economy figures, and how wrong they are. They are conducted under ideal conditions in a laboratory with force induction air for cooling and the use of the DSG box just helps to achieve these figures. If it were fitted with a manual g/box, the figures would be considerably different (worse). Test conditions for auto and manuals differ quite considerably. You are driving these cars in the real world, under real world conditions, you will never get the same results. Also, winter driving brings in some other permutations such as low temperatures and darkness requiring more power for the ancillary equipment (lights, heated rear screens, heaters, longer warm up times) all of which put additional drain on engine power. On top of this there is winter fuel and yes this is not just confined to diesel. Winter gasoline does exist and it is more volatile than you will get in the summer so as to allow for easier starting. Again this will adversely affect fuel consumption.

So, as we are now coming into spring, winter gasoline will start to disappear, less drain on engine resources and the fact that the engines will be starting to losen up now they have accumulated some miles, i would imagine fuel consumption will decrease.

With regard to Octane rating, dependent on engine, this will have an effect. When i had an Imprezza, running Shell Optimax, the fore runner to V-Power, it did return better mpg compared to base unleaded gasoline. However, in my current Vectra, i see littel discernable difference and as such haven't bothered spending the extra money on it. Modern vehicles are fitted with knock sensors that will automatically advance and retard the ignition based on the inforamtion it is receiving. If you run higher octane fuel such as V-Power, the ignition will be advanced and the spark to ignite fuel air mixture will occur closer to top dead centre than a fuel with a lower octane rating. I am uncetain how these engines are initially optimised and therefore how far a spread in octane rating they can cope with, but i am feeling that if a very low octane fuel such as a 91 RON is used the ignition may not be able to retard itself far enough. in such a case you will experience a loss in power and may even notice a slight metallic ringing known as pinking as combustion is not occuring under optimal condtions. All i can say here is suck it and see, yes 98 RON is probably best (based on past experience) but 95 RON will not damage the engine but may increse fuel consumption and slightly reduce performance. 91 RON is best avoided at all costs and should only be used in an emergency.

Jerry

Edited 25 February, 201115 yr by JerryT

This seems to be a really long thread over a very simple issue.

The VRS is a hot hatch, putting out approximately 180 BHP, it is never going to give really good mpg. A lot can be said about the official fuel economy figures, and how wrong they are. They are conducted under ideal conditions in a laboratory with force induction air for cooling and the use of the DSG box just helps to achieve these figures. If it were fitted with a manual g/box, the figures would be considerably different (worse). Test conditions for auto and manuals differ quite considerably. You are driving these cars in the real world, under real world conditions, you will never get the same results. Also, winter driving brings in some other permutations such as low temperatures and darkness requiring more power for the ancillary equipment (lights, heated rear screens, heaters, longer warm up times) all of which put additional drain on engine power. On top of this there is winter fuel and yes this is not just confined to diesel. Winter gasoline does exist and it is more volatile than you will get in the summer so as to allow for easier starting. Again this will adversely affect fuel consumption.

So, as we are now coming into spring, winter gasoline will start to disappear, less drain on engine resources and the fact that the engines will be starting to losen up now they have accumulated some miles, i would imagine fuel consumption will decrease.

With regard to Octane rating, dependent on engine, this will have an effect. When i had an Imprezza, running Shell Optimax, the fore runner to V-Power, it did return better mpg compared to base unleaded gasoline. However, in my current Vectra, i see littel discernable difference and as such haven't bothered spending the extra money on it. Modern vehicles are fitted with knock sensors that will automatically advance and retard the ignition based on the inforamtion it is receiving. If you run higher octane fuel such as V-Power, the ignition will be advanced and the spark to ignite fuel air mixture will occur closer to top dead centre than a fuel with a lower octane rating. I am uncetain how these engines are initially optimised and therefore how far a spread in octane rating they can cope with, but i am feeling that if a very low octane fuel such as a 91 RON is used the ignition may not be able to retard itself far enough. in such a case you will experience a loss in power and may even notice a slight metallic ringing known as pinking as combustion is not occuring under optimal condtions. All i can say here is suck it and see, yes 98 RON is probably best (based on past experience) but 95 RON will not damage the engine but may increse fuel consumption and slightly reduce performance. 91 RON is best avoided at all costs and should only be used in an emergency.

Jerry

Hi Jerry,

Agree with everything you've said on the subject. Not sure if its just me but i've never seen 91 RON for sale in the UK, lowest i've found is 95. Seems to be an EU thing, 95 being the lowest available for sale.

The bottom line is this....If you can easily afford a higher Octane fuel then you might as well use it. If on the other hand using the good stuff will put any strain whatsoever on your budget its not worth it -chuck in regular 95 and you and your motor will be absolutely fine....!

Hi Jerry,

Agree with everything you've said on the subject. Not sure if its just me but i've never seen 91 RON for sale in the UK, lowest i've found is 95. Seems to be an EU thing, 95 being the lowest available for sale.

Correct, 91 RON is not comon, if at all available in the UK and could be possibly confined to the continent or even the US. i'll check with my colleagues around the world as to what is availble in their countries. May take me a little while to accumulate the data but i should get it.

Correct, 91 RON is not comon, if at all available in the UK and could be possibly confined to the continent or even the US. i'll check with my colleagues around the world as to what is availble in their countries. May take me a little while to accumulate the data but i should get it.

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Ive been wondering what to run my car on the internet seems the worse place to talk about mpg an fuel

Fuel is fuel it cant be dramaticly diffrent between brands sainsburys get theirs from bp it even comes in a bp tanker ive always used it not a single issue

The advice i always say take the lowest quoted figure its the closest to real world mpg

Has anyone noticed how coasting affects MPG in the vRS?

I've started to coast more and more because the MPG both on the maxi-dot and fuel per tank goes up considerably. I use to coast in my Punto which was manual but it didn't have a greater affect as I'm seeing with the vRS. I get an average of 43-44mpg out of one tank or 370 miles a tank. 370 miles @ 45 litres is actually 38mpg so the maxi-dot is even more off that usual.

The vRS seems to hang on to its speed quite well from what I can tell. Just wondered if anyone else had noticed.

Has anyone noticed how coasting affects MPG in the vRS?

I've started to coast more and more because the MPG both on the maxi-dot and fuel per tank goes up considerably. I use to coast in my Punto which was manual but it didn't have a greater affect as I'm seeing with the vRS. I get an average of 43-44mpg out of one tank or 370 miles a tank. 370 miles @ 45 litres is actually 38mpg so the maxi-dot is even more off that usual.

The vRS seems to hang on to its speed quite well from what I can tell. Just wondered if anyone else had noticed.

its the way to save fuel (as long as you don't mean you are putting it in neutral while moving, I hope you mean simply comming off the gas and rolling) if you do this even a few cars earlier than normal approaching a roundabout, lights ect, you will see a big improvement. just remember braking is the enemy of fuel consuption!

370 miles a tank? hhhmmm I filled up this morning (v-power) and have done 360 miles today, and I still have 1/4 of a tank left

Edited 12 March, 201115 yr by sharkrider

its the way to save fuel (as long as you don't mean you are putting it in neutral while moving, I hope you mean simply comming off the gas and rolling) if you do this even a few cars earlier than normal approaching a roundabout, lights ect, you will see a big improvement. just remember braking is the enemy of fuel consuption!

370 miles a tank? hhhmmm I filled up this morning (v-power) and have done 360 miles today, and I still have 1/4 of a tank left

Of course I mean lifting off the power and rolling

Well, I'm on track for well over 400 this run with Esso 97 and that's with max coast. Will SS and report back :p

Of course I mean lifting off the power and rolling

Well, I'm on track for well over 400 this run with Esso 97 and that's with max coast. Will SS and report back :p

cool, i'llpost up what miles I get to when it runs out...

how many litres of fuel is this with?

Just filled up tank number 3 so on tank 2 using the trip miles vs gallons I worked out I got 28.2 to the gallon where computer was show 29.6. Most of this tank has been short haul stuff and using sport setting for about 15% of the time.

On reading the forums this seems a bit low but not worried as engine will loosen up - plus coming from an rx8 that returned around 18 mpg on short haul this is decent enough.

Cheers

Edited 13 March, 201115 yr by Bullyboy

how many litres of fuel is this with?

45 litres.

well i am happy picked up car on Friday did a trip from London to worcester on Sainsburys 97 ron got 39mpg each way on a mixture of roads and thatwas varying the spped while running in

I bought this car as it promised hot hatch thrills with reasonable economy so its only fair to expect to see more than 30mpg as my daily commute of 60 miles per day is getting mighty expensive!

Admittedly if you wring the nuts off your car you wont see any more than that but I'm glad to say i am seeing an average of 40 with a mix of driving which I'm totally happy with now the engine is loosening up.

Of course I mean lifting off the power and rolling

Well, I'm on track for well over 400 this run with Esso 97 and that's with max coast. Will SS and report back :p

I made 410 miles, not on empty to empty, on reserve to reserve (the light comming on) so not a full tank, I don't know how this translates to MPG, but I'm happy enough with that!

(maybe someone can do the maths?)

edit: v-power.

edit again... if its a 45 litre tank and I didnt use reserve, then thats 410 mile on about 8.8 gallons, thats 46.5 mpg! woot! proves it can be done

Sure I would be nice to have awesome MPG coupled with good performance but it doesn't normally happen. My Mk1 vRS is only doing about 40mpg (using Fuelly) and obviously loads more on a run. If I get anything more than 35mpg I'll be happy. It's a hot hatch after all. For the first 1000 miles I'll be driving spiritedly and then see how it goes after that. Not too bothered about economy I just want a fun car. If it ends up being decent on fuel it's a bonus. It's not going to be brilliant with a kayak strapped to a roof anyway