I drove a A5 Sportback a while ago and the Multitronic gearbox was the smoothest I have ever driven.

I wonder will the CVT box ever find its way into a Superb?

Edited 9 February, 201115 yr by Gavn Tobin

Can't see that there'd be enough market need for another transmission variant. Think DSG and manual options satisfy 99% of potential buyers IMO.

And don't care what they put in the Exeo to be frank; it's just an old Audi

Exeo is an Audi floor pan which the Superb II isn't, they don't make a multitronic for transverse application so not going to happen.

Seat are desperate to actually sell some Exeos so they are borrowing more from Audi to try and achieve this. The Exeo has so far been a big flop, just look at the 2nd hand values, so they need to do something to boost demand/sales.

Exeo is an Audi floor pan which the Superb II isn't, they don't make a multitronic for transverse application so not going to happen.

VERY good point - hadn't considered that. That means they can shoehorn the 3.0TDI in it then? I might be marginally interested then

A couple of years ago I saw a TV docummentary about the development of the CVT. It started many years ago in Japan, so it's another borrowed idea from Audi, like the turbo, the total traction, the diesel direct injection, the petrol direct injection, and many more... (but they have a very efficient marketing department)

One of the engineers told that the system was mechanically very complex and they doubt it would last for a long time with high torque engines, so they decided to use it only on normally aspirated petrol engines of 2.0 litres and less. They didn't consider to use it with turbo engines, neither petrol nor diesel.

I've driven a workmate A4 2.0 TDI Multitronic and of curse it's smooth, smooooth, smoooooooooooth :zzz: .

By the way, in two years the gearbox has had 3 problems. Definetively not my piece of cake

Who the hell would want an Exeo anyway? its just an old, washed up Audi A4 made worse by SEAT.

I think I've seen two on the roads.

You can get a 59 plate exeo for 12K, thats a lot of depreciation on a car that cost more than 25K new.

Multitronic doesn't seem to be the most reliable beast anyway. Don't understand why you wouldn't have DSG instead, if it's offered?

Guy I know at work is on his 3rd Multitronic box on an 08-plate 2.7TDI A5, which has done 23k :wonder:

Come to think of it, I know of someone who drives an Audi that has a taste for Multitronic gearboxes. To be avoided by the looks of it.

If you spec an Exeo 'Sports Tourer' (AKA not much space in the back) up to match a Superb Elegance you are looking at £27,000 - Ouch. I would think there are discounts to be had though.

Craziness. Who would do such a thing.

Had a look on Trader for examples off the back of this thread. And I take back what I said - even with a 3.0TDI lump I still wouldn't buy. Just seems to look dreadful. I don't know how they've managed it, but they've taken the old A4 shape and made it look terrible :S

That, or a Superb - hmmm, tricky!

Seat are desperate to actually sell some Exeos so they are borrowing more from Audi to try and achieve this. The Exeo has so far been a big flop, just look at the 2nd hand values, so they need to do something to boost demand/sales.

To be honest i don't really see where Seat sits full stop in the VAG range anymore?

I don't either. Sitting confusingly is how I'd put it!

If they're the sporty arm of VAG, the Alfa Romeo if you will, why do they need a staid, boring looking, uninspired old Audi in the lineup? :S

I don't either. Sitting confusingly is how I'd put it!

If they're the sporty arm of VAG, the Alfa Romeo if you will, why do they need a staid, boring looking, uninspired old Audi in the lineup? :S

They must have done it to get another model in the lineup on the cheap to nick a few sales from somewhere. The same as with the Mk1 Superb. Trouble is, Skoda seemed to know what they were doing by using the stretched Chinese B5 platform and sold it cheap as chips with decent standard kit.

SEAT have taken a fairly cramped platform, made it look worse, whacked the price up and stuck a less prestige badge on the nose. (yes, this from a long time Skoda driver )

The segment that the Exeo is aiming for is chock full of better cars for less money. Skoda do 3 models that jump all over the Exeo's bonnet.

The only arm SEAT are of VAG is one that is overdue for amputation

A couple of years ago I saw a TV docummentary about the development of the CVT. It started many years ago in Japan, so it's another borrowed idea from Audi, like the turbo, the total traction, the diesel direct injection, the petrol direct injection, and many more... (but they have a very efficient marketing department)

One of the engineers told that the system was mechanically very complex and they doubt it would last for a long time with high torque engines, so they decided to use it only on normally aspirated petrol engines of 2.0 litres and less. They didn't consider to use it with turbo engines, neither petrol nor diesel.

I've driven a workmate A4 2.0 TDI Multitronic and of curse it's smooth, smooooth, smoooooooooooth :zzz: .

By the way, in two years the gearbox has had 3 problems. Definetively not my piece of cake

Hi I belive the CVT was pionered by DAF and used in the Volvo 340 Varimatic ?

my wife has a Honda Jazz CVT sport and its great fun

Andy

When DAF were taken over by Volvo in the late 70's/early80's they inherited a two door estate smaller than a Fabia, was designated the Volvo 66 (or was possibly DAF 66 before takeover) I think.

It had a CVT which was basically a rubber band running around two variable wheels. Effectively had 1 gear, probably about 50 bhp- friend at college had one and it was dreadful= acceleration was measured with a calendar, no space insde and unlike all other Volvos at the time wasnt built like a tank and had poor safety features even for the time- happy days a how we envied him having his own car.

Coolest guy I knew was a architecture student who had a MIni Cooper- 90 minutes from Aberdeen to South Fife pre A90 dual carraigeway.:yes:

When DAF were taken over by Volvo in the late 70's/early80's they inherited a two door estate smaller than a Fabia, was designated the Volvo 66 (or was possibly DAF 66 before takeover) I think.

It had a CVT which was basically a rubber band running around two variable wheels. Effectively had 1 gear, probably about 50 bhp- friend at college had one and it was dreadful= acceleration was measured with a calendar, no space insde and unlike all other Volvos at the time wasnt built like a tank and had poor safety features even for the time- happy days a how we envied him having his own car.

Coolest guy I knew was a architecture student who had a MIni Cooper- 90 minutes from Aberdeen to South Fife pre A90 dual carraigeway.:yes:

My old man had a red Volvo 343DL with the 'elastic band' gearbox. It had to go back to Volvo for a retrofitted alarm that would go off under certain conditions, the exact reason escapes me at present. It also had an incline switch or the car would speed up going down the hills. The car was sh|t

A few years ago I had an Audi A6 1.8T with multitronic. For me this was the best auto gearbox I've ever used.

It was marginally quicker in acceleration over the manual and I rate it slightly better than the DSG I currently have.

At first its a strange sensation when you accelerate hard, the revs quickly build up to say 5000 rpm and then just sit there as the speedo needle climbs rapidly. Totally smooth and seamless acceleration. I found it very impressive

This Audi was the best car I have ever owned

Unfortunately it is engineered such that it will only work on longitudinally mounted engines and front wheel drive only, so A4 and A6 and A8(non quartro) but not A3

The chain driven Multitronic is a world away from old rubber band CVT boxes of Volvo/DAF, Ford and Rover ilk.

My Dad had a few of them and he loved them, never had any issues with them. Ive changed a few of the valve block units in the back of them before now though.

Talking about seat vs skoda.

I was in spain this week.

As strange as it may seem, the most of the Taxi's where Octavia's with very very few seat branded cars.

The same goes for the rest of the carpark. More skoda's than seats.

From that i must conclude that spanish people prefer skoda's over there own brand. :wonder:

Edited 13 February, 201115 yr by tomcatdk

Malaga seem to have all Skodas as Taxis, both Octavias and the odd Superb MK2, also not a seat in sight. Compared to a few years ago when there were lots of Seats around.

...I rate it slightly better than the DSG I currently have.

How you can rate it above a DSG box is beyond me, but to each his own

Personally think the multitronic is the best auto box, seamless acceleration when wanted, optimum economy the rest of the time. Agree that reliability has proved problematic but the fact they have persevered suggests they have probably sorted it.

I don't either. Sitting confusingly is how I'd put it!

If they're the sporty arm of VAG, the Alfa Romeo if you will, why do they need a staid, boring looking, uninspired old Audi in the lineup? :S

I have to say, the Exeo is an odd choice for Seat.