i have a set lying round and wondered if anyone had tried fitting these?

at first i wondered if there the same as the LCR but the look diffent after a nosey about

i hope not i saw a set of these in the breakers and thought they wouldnt fit

any pics, i will try to tell you if they are the same if i can

Will get pics tonight, I don't think they are but might be an update of the same calipers which might fit

These calipers are also found on the Fiat Coupe Turbo as well as a few Alfa's iirc.

406 coupe ones

LCR

so there not the same but like i said i wonder if there an update

You will need custom carriers. Not sure if they will will work with they mc.

I have 4 pots on mine and love them. Pedal travel is not as instant as std but you get used to that in not time. Saved me the other day when a fool changed lane when we where coming into a roundabout. Car stops so much better now.

Don't think their the same, wider body than the LCR ones.

Apart from the issue of the piston diameters matching to the mc, the width will be important, you don't want to find you need huge space to compensate for very wide brake body (and risk hitting your wheel arches).

Getting a custom carrier for an unsual caliper could be a pita too.

def not brembo gts or LCR brembos

ney bother, just somethin i have been toyin with but messin with cars has been and gone for a while now.

will just move them on

thanks for the imput guys

Just cos their not identical to Brembo GT's or LCR Brembo's doesn't mean they won't work.

Hopefully you've got some pointers as to where the issues of fitting them would be.

I guess the first thing to check would be piston diameter, you want a close a match to the bremob gt/lcr as possible, and then the physical size and dimensions.

Then you've got to work out how to get carriers madeup if its viable.

The other factor to consider is the width tolerance of the caliper, and how it would fit with the range of discs commonly used on the VAG platform (e.g. 312x28, 323x28, 325x28, 330x28)

according to some fairly random internet reviews, the 406 brembo caliper is prone to brake-dust build up, and can squeak loudly ...

I thought that 312's were 25mm?

You will need custom carriers. Not sure if they will work with they mc.

I have 4 pots on mine and love them. Pedal travel is not as instant as std but you get used to that in not time. Saved me the other day when a fool changed lane when we where coming into a roundabout. Car stops so much better now.

Since looking to put 4 pots on my octy, ive tried lots of different ones, including LCR, Porsche in various different types and the biggest problem which people are finding out on here in because of the small size of the standard MC large pistons increase pedal travel which kind of defeats the point of having 4 pots.

One of the big advantages of 4 pots is pedal modulation and the way the brakes apply and release themselves!

Some people say you need to have "Big Reds" from Porsche with the larger piston diameter and not carrera or Boxster S rears due the piston diameter being too small and not getting enough "force" on the disc, but to be honest the Boxster S rears work great, with the right pad, lots of bit straight away, good pedal modulation and a very short pedal travel a lot less then the standard 54mm caliper on say a VRS.

If you’ve got 4 pots on your car and they have more pedal travel than the standard single piston caliper, then your doing something wrong!! and negating any advantages that you should’ve got with 4 pots.

Its a trade off between the 4 pots and the piston size in relation to the size of the master cylinder.

Ive not had any experience with the 406 calipers but the pistons look very big and I would say that your ll get lots of pedal travel as the octy range have only got a 23.8mm master, I don’t know what the 406 would be!

If you find that out and the size of the four pistons in the 406 caliper it is possible to work out how much force you will get and how much pedal travel you will end up with!

That’s what I didn’t with the Porsche calipers I choose for my car, I used Carrera 3.6 rears with a medium sized piston, some call them Porsche smalls but they are well suited to the master on the octy range and ive used Ferodo DS3000 pads which are quite harsh which ive not down graded to DS 2500 which are ideal and the brakes after a little warming up are stupendous!

Just think about it before you buy hoses and brackets and the calipers and bolts and so on and are then disappointed with them!!!

You may find the 406 pistons are the same as the LCR in which case you’ll be laughing!

Hope it works out for you

BTW I didn’t really think much of the LCR calipers compared to Porsche ones!!!

Edited 12 March, 201115 yr by dannyboy759

thanks for the input guys but this is exactly the type of messing round am trying to stay away from after my old track car decided to have a hissy fit a week befor a trackday.

i've been there and done that with modifying tbh and unless its direct bolt on and off like the LCR brembo's am not really gonna bother. At the end of the day the car is my daily and family wagon so i dont wanna be throwing money at it like i would have in the old days

thanks again

If you want hassle free, unknown to work, price tag to match, get Brembo Junior GT with 323x28 discs. If you want to get the best, get the Brembo GT 330x28 bell/rotor or the Badger5/Godspeed bell/rotor for the Junior GT.

You might be able to save money going another route, but you'll be taking a gamble basically.

Edited 12 March, 201115 yr by snow_muncher

Interesting read......

Never had the issues mentioned about pedal travel with my 6pots.....

My AP's have quite small pistons, but give excellent coverage over a massive pad. 360mm discs help too I guess.

Steve

Don't suppose you happen to know what AP caliper and/or kit you've got ?

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Interesting to see you have done all these brake mods and fitted 'Accelera' tyres. That sort of defeats the object!

Edited 12 March, 201115 yr by Liverpool-Lad

Either sell them to me or buy a saxo to turn into a track car. They'll fit on that

Don't suppose you happen to know what AP caliper and/or kit you've got ?

AP Racing model '7040' 6 piston callipers.

Steve

Interesting to see you have done all these brake mods and fitted 'Accelera' tyres. That sort of defeats the object!

i thought the same!!!

AP Racing model '7040' 6 piston callipers.

Steve

CP7040 Family

3 choices of piston sizes

Recon the 6 x Ø27.0mm would be noticeably smaller than the CompBrakes piston surface area ( the compbrake has 2x large pistons and 4x small pistons )

I see they do a 330x32 bell/rotor too ... snowball in hells chance that my existing 330x32 bell/rotors would fit with an AP caliper and carrier :think: ... bet there would be offset issues ...

Edited 13 March, 201115 yr by snow_muncher

you have answered your own question/statement...

ap and compbrake are different, so will their kits be!

6 pots are clearly for pussies

12-pot is clearly the way to go ... 12-pot 380mm 700 euros ...

Anyone want to take a punt ?

k sport seem to be a UK company. Do a range of stuff. Not much spec though.

(you'll notice there described as 12 pot, and yet the caliper has 8-piston written on the side, and if you count the pistons ...)

Edited 13 March, 201115 yr by snow_muncher

yes, the way to go.....for extra pedal travel and lack of pedal feel

they look overkill

and like they should be sold in halfords

Edited 13 March, 201115 yr by Oet