I have been reading of these dpf issues ? dont wish to start another thread on that but are they that common and from a standard car or just a remapped one ?

Only common on PD's really although a couple of CR's have cropped up, it is very few and far between.

Looks like a petrol for you then

Don't forget you can get the glorious 1.8tsi pipe and slippers edition, sorry L&K, stick a 'fin' on it (whatever one of those is) and it looks exactly like a VRS...

Nothing wrong with a 1.8TSI L&K. Mines been Sharked and has +40hp and 65 lb/ft so has the power of a petrol vRS and nearly the torque of the diesel vRS. I've had 46mpg on the computer on a motorway run although the maxidot 1 reading is 33.5mpg as I mainly drive in town and have a heavy right foot :yes:

Nothing wrong with a 1.8TSI L&K. Mines been Sharked and has +40hp and 65 lb/ft so has the power of a petrol vRS and nearly the torque of the diesel vRS. I've had 46mpg on the computer on a motorway run although the maxidot 1 reading is 33.5mpg as I mainly drive in town and have a heavy right foot :yes:

Didn't say it was - you missed the point of the dig (not at the car, at a particular member) (in joke!)

Well good to see we have some good debate going.

Don't get me wrong I like my diesel too (1.9D 130hp), and the TSI VRS but I just like the 1.8 TSI DSG pipe and sleepers (L&K aka P&S) best of the 3.

Ohhh and 0-60 does matter. (But I am scared to take my P&S 1.8 TSI up the strip until I have tested in privately to see if I can get in the respectable 15s).

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Well good to see we have some good debate going.

Don't get me wrong I like my diesel too (1.9D 130hp, and the TSI VRS but I just like the 1.8 TSI DSG pipe and sleepers (L&K) best of the 3.

Ohhh and 0-60 does matter. (But I am scared to take my P&S 1.8 TSI up the strip until I have tested in privately to see if I can get in the 15s).

0-60 really doesn't matter - Why be scared? - you have quoted on NUMEROUS threads that the glorious TSI will beat the 'wiesel'

To put it bluntly, i would beat you all day long.....and long after you had run out of petrol. :p

0-60 really doesn't matter - Why be scared? - you have quoted on NUMEROUS threads that the glorious TSI will beat the 'wiesel'

To put it bluntly, i would beat you all day long.....and long after you had run out of petrol. :p

Not me Skoda-Auto CZ, Skoda UK, The Press etc etc etc, 0-60, 0-100, by between 8 and 10%. Only when they both level out at 140 mph would the gap stop growing when the 1.8 TSI would be hundreds of metre down the road as it reaches 100 mph 2 seconds quicker etc.

Can I get this ipod App on a Touch or Ipad?

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Not me Skoda-Auto CZ, Skoda UK, The Press etc etc etc, 0-60, 0-100, by between 8 and 10%. Only when they both level out at 140 mph would the gap stop growing when the 1.8 TSI would be hundreds of metre down the road as it reaches 100 mph 2 seconds quicker etc.

Can I get this ipod App on a Touch or Ipad?

Shame it doesn't matter to anyone on here..... Anyway i am talking about real life figures, not press and manufacturer figures.

Why not log on to fuelly too - should have a wallet full of figures doing 1k a week - see what you are really getting. :clap:

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OP

If you are saying that your commute is going to be short and stop & start then stay away from the diesel simply because of the DPF issue.

I have the diesel VRS dsg, its pretty new but to give you some indication I (maxidot) average 48 mpg with a 14 mile mixed commute of motorway and getting across B'ham in the rush hour.

I had a Superb 1.8 TSI as a loaner & could only get 37 mpg, really nice engine but any kind of 'spirited' driving saw the figures fall dramatically - I know its not the same engine in the VRS but may give you some indication.

Thanks guys some really good replies, the wife has a 8 miles commute, only one part of it is a 3 mile bypass the rest is rush hour stop starts, and unless we are away visting anyone it will be all local start stop trips, from my experience too it seems you need to do a lengthy journey to get the best out of a diesel - then its the toss up for the extra 1500-2000 ( which it seems ) for a simialr age spec car, hhhmmmmm decisions decisions.......

I wouldn't get the diesel either with that sort of commute for another reason. In the winter you will be lucky if the diesel has warmed enough to even heat the cabin, the petrol heats up MUCH quicker over a short journey like yours.

I wouldn't get the diesel either with that sort of commute for another reason. In the winter you will be lucky if the diesel has warmed enough to even heat the cabin, the petrol heats up MUCH quicker over a short journey like yours.

You can say that again - 22 mile commute at -12 and the oil only reached 70c!

OP

I had a Superb 1.8 TSI as a loaner & could only get 37 mpg, really nice engine but any kind of 'spirited' driving saw the figures fall dramatically - I know its not the same engine in the VRS but may give you some indication.

It is very similar in the VRS and as I have said before you can destroy a few miles of good average mpg with a few hundred yards of full bore acceleration!

You can say that again - 22 mile commute at -12 and the oil only reached 70c!

Yep but you use a lot of petrol warming that oil up quicker!

You can say that again - 22 mile commute at -12 and the oil only reached 70c!

Tell me about it, my last car was a 3.0 V6 diesel and if I drove the car normally it still wouldn't have been up to temp 20 miles later. You really had to get the turbo operating to get the engine up to temp quicker, a fuel saving commute just didn't do it. Thank god for heated leather seats though, although didn't order them on this car.....too hot in summer.........and too cold (until heated) in winter.......leather no thanks.

Only common on PD's really although a couple of CR's have cropped up, it is very few and far between.

aren't they a potential problem on just about all recent diesels ie Skoda or not with owners doing lowish mostly urban miles?

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aren't they a potential problem on just about all recent diesels ie Skoda or not with owners doing lowish mostly urban miles?

Its a bit mixed - some people on here literally do 2 miles a day commute and have had no probs and others do the miles and have problems....I don't think it is anywhere near as bad as the PD's though. I have done just shy of 16k and have only noticed it doing its pre regen regen thing (no light but fans running and burning smell!) once.

At the end of the day if i have any problems after the warranty, i will just get it gutted! It is an Unnecessary Brussels euro regulation IMO.

Yep but you use a lot of petrol warming that oil up quicker!

Thats very true, you don't need heated seats in the petrol!

When it was -16 over winter, as i cruised off the motorway onto the slip road the coolant gauge plummeted from 90c to around 50c I had never seen that happen before! Think i will block the rads off a bit if we have a winter like that again.

I drive a regular 10 mile commute to work and back each day. This is a mix of b,a and motorway driving so a far bit of stop/start and slow low rev cruising. I had the PD VRS for 4 years and now had the CR VRS for a year with no DPF issues with either, so an 8 mile commute should not completely rule out a diesel VRS. I used to get around 42-44 mpg from the PD and 46-48mpg from the CR on the commute drive.

My CR vRS has 300 miles on it now [since friday last week] and running it in is like having a noose round my neck, the computer is averaging 46mpg on a mixture of m'way and A roads. I will repost at the end of the week after putting on another 300 miles before then.

There is no real need to drive it any differently from the start. As long as you allow the engine to warm up fully first (let the oil get to temp) then you should use the full rev range and drive it normally.

Shame it doesn't matter to anyone on here..... Anyway i am talking about real life figures, not press and manufacturer figures.

Why not log on to fuelly too - should have a wallet full of figures doing 1k a week - see what you are really getting. :clap:

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I do not pay for my own fuel (lucky that since it is a petrol). All I see of the expenditure is the year's amounts on my P11D. About £3.5K for 6 months and I think I did about 23,000 miles. Which works out about 40 mpg (half in TSI VRS, half in 1.8 TSI DSG Pipe & Slippers aka L&K) I think but I did put quite a few litres of oil on their too as I like to have a supply of them as I have known the VW 504 VW507 get a bit short sometime. Can offset the £3.5K with about £6K of business miles relief should should be up for the last year.

This year will be a bit more challenging with some 40K miles and more like £6.6K of fuel and oil and this kind Government raised the first 10K mileage rate to 45ppm but still kept the over 10K miles at 25 ppm for some inexplicable reason so will only be able to claim about 30k business miles and therefore £9.5K so should still be quids in and reduce my 40% ta rate exposure via raised tax code.

Suppose I could do the receipts but then that would be a bit wieselly. Not really worth my time and effort.

Might finally go and get my Mich PS3s tomorrow which help me get even better fuel consumption!

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Suppose I could do the receipts but then that would be a bit wieselly. Not really worth my time and effort.

Might finally go and get my Mich PS3s tomorrow which help me get even better fuel consumption!

You are the one banging on about MPG all the time everytime a thread comes up about diesels. Put your money where your mouth is and prove the claims. If you have a fuel card then every reciept should have the mileage on it, along with litres, price per litre and total £.

I put my works van in the other day and 11 fill ups (a years worth nearly) took me about 5 min to input. Trouble is they aren't accurate as it is clear that the other chap who drives the van when i'm not in (and i'm a bugger for not filling the thing up) that he doesn't fill it as full as i do....but as you are the only one who fuels yours up, like my car, it will be accurate.

Can't really see how tyres of the same size but a different make would make a great difference to MPG...again pre-excuses....

I've done about 3000 miles in my VRS CR and have been nothing but impressed by it's performance. It's my first diesel car and I've always been a total petrol only motorist with many "hot hatches" notched on my belt. To answer the OP, my driving is about 70% dual/motorway with about 30% town and I'm averaging mid 50's mpg. I did a 700 mile trip to see that nice chap Ben at Shark Performance a couple of weeks ago and averaged 62.8mpg on that trip, not driving like a granny either, just sticking to the limits (mostly!!). On the way back I filled up in Sheffield and I have done 540miles since then and still have the needle just under the quater full mark.

As for the performance, then i'm with jrw all the way, the car is a properly quick car and is capable of giving a red face to many an ususpecting driver in the real world. The short rev range puts it at a dissadvantage to a pertol, esp. in 1st and 2nd, but once into 3rd and above the torque is fabulous (even more so now !)

DPF is a worry for me, but I have been running the car on V-Power to help look after the DPF (and engine) as it produces less soot and I've yet to experience any regen, and with the economy figures it gets, it doesn't hurt so much.

As for the performance, then i'm with jrw all the way, the car is a properly quick car and is capable of giving a red face to many an ususpecting driver in the real world. The short rev range puts it at a dissadvantage to a pertol, esp. in 1st and 2nd, but once into 3rd and above the torque is fabulous (even more so now !)

DPF is a worry for me, but I have been running the car on V-Power to help look after the DPF (and engine) as it produces less soot and I've yet to experience any regen, and with the economy figures it gets, it doesn't hurt so much.

Thats a good point actually re the DPF....I wonder if fuel makes a difference? I only ever use Shell fuelsave or Shell V Power... Cleaner fuel, cleaner burn, less soot = happy DPF

Thats a good point actually re the DPF....I wonder if fuel makes a difference? I only ever use Shell fuelsave or Shell V Power... Cleaner fuel, cleaner burn, less soot = happy DPF

I think it does. I remember taking the head off a corsa 1.4 sport some years ago that had done 40,000 miles on a permanent diet of Tesco's finest. It was my sisters and was running like a pig. The chambers/valves/heads were severly carboned up. After a good decoke it ran sweet. That was enough evidence for me.

I think it does. I remember taking the head off a corsa 1.4 sport some years ago that had done 40,000 miles on a permanent diet of Tesco's finest. It was my sisters and was running like a pig. The chambers/valves/heads were severly carboned up. After a good decoke it ran sweet. That was enough evidence for me.

I can agree with that - I get 60+ more miles to a tank on Shell hence me using it for years....The Bora is coming up to 90k and the EGR is pretty clean. My mates 130PD (same engine but in a Polo) had to have a new EGR valve at 85k as it was beyond redemption....Needless to say it has been run from new on Tesco and Sainsbury's finest (nearest for him so makes sense)