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Does anybody have 6,5" speakers in rear doors?

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I have two identical kits of Alpine SPX-177R for my Estate 2000. One is already mounted in the front standard position (with a bit of fiddling, I had to cut away part of the metal to get that huge magnet in place). I want to use the other pair in the rear, but of course the door panels does not have room for anything like that. The original placement for the tweeter is good, but I really don't feel like (even if I considered it) buying a kit of 4x6 Alpines and cutting the wire on the tweeters to use the SPX tweeters (which are a lot better). So has anybody else put a component kit in the rear doors, or do I have to fly by the seat of my pants here and hope I don't mess up too badly? :D

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The Seat Toleda has 6.5" speakers mounted in the rear doors, so its possible.

I have a set of Toledo rear door cards, which are interchangeable with Octavia rear doorcards, so its's probable an OE speaker mount exists.

You'd need a copy of ETKA, which I no longer have, to hunt

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Interesting! Then it should be possible. I'm probably going to cut the door side and use the mounting hardware that comes with the speakers. Then I'll cut the lower frequencies so it doesn't rattle around there. It's nice to have a variable cutoff frequency in the amp.

Might be worth going onto Seatcupra.net and asking some Toledo owners how thier rear doors are setup underneather the doorcard.

The doorcard itself has no bucket pockets like the Octy, some has a bit more room 'inside' the doorcard. The Speakers in the Toledo are mount inside the door too, with the speaker cover glued into the doorcard.

I bet there's a plastic speaker ring just like in the front doors

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Thanks! Yeah, in a factory setup that's usually the way it's done. That car is btw almost non-excistent in Norway! And the chance of finding one with the correct parts is probably between slim and none. But I see that they sell adapters that should fit front and rear doors for the Toledo on eBay. It may be worth buying something like that, I just need to see if it's possible to fit it in the door I have. It may lead to less rattle than mounting it in the door side itself.

I'm breaking a toledo V5, with the rear door card off there's a metal plate covering the aperture like MK4 golfs, the speaker is fixed to this metal plate with rivets, the stereo sound's 100 times better than the Octavia as there's real bass from there.. HTH

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Interesting! Could you please post a picture of that? And is it welded in place, or is it bolted/riveted?

I've removed the speaker previously, but you can see the aperture where it sits.

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Wow! Right, that should probably be stiff and good. And it seems like the rest of the door is pretty closed, so you keep the air in. I wish my doors were like that, but they aren't. They are totally open, so I have to get the bass from the subwoofer(s) that I'm going to build into the double floor. Should still sound pretty good because of the way bass spreads. And two Alpine 10" should give me a lot of that dry, controlled bass I like. There's a guy in the neighbourhood who has three 15" of something expensive in his Jeep Cherokee. He rattles houses when he drives by, but the sound inside the car is totally crappy! No control at all, just "boom-boom-boom"...

I was surprised there was no similar solid membrane in the Octavia, the Octavias speakers give out a shrill that drives me insane, no bass at all. The Toledo is nicelly balanced in my view, the speakers out of the Toledo will go into my Octavia soon.

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The main problem is probably the model. I think the Octavia got that enclosed door a few years later. Typical of the VAG cycle: New stuff is in Audi first, then VW, then Seat and finally Skoda. Of course the nice thing about that is that when it finally comes to Skoda, all the bugs are ironed out of it! So you can say that Audi byers are alpha testers, and VW buyers are beta testers! :giggle:

I've removed the speaker previously, but you can see the aperture where it sits.

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I bet that metal panel would (more or less) bolt in ... got me thinking anyway ...

I bet that metal panel would (more or less) bolt in ... got me thinking anyway ...

I'll see if I can find a part number on the membrane next week and google is your friend........

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If it's for my benefit it's not necessary. I won't import a panel from the UK to Norway anyway, the shipping would kill me. :)

I'll see if I can find a part number on the membrane next week and google is your friend........

:thumbup: if its no effort, that would be cool

:thumbup: if its no effort, that would be cool

The whole assembly is 1M0 839 730 F, I can't for the moment find a part number for the backplate only

Think ill be pulling one of my rear door cards to have 2 look behind to see if i can fabricate a bracket to fit a speaker

... 1M0 839 730 F ...

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