My tyres have now run for 22,000 miles, I swapped them over at 12,000. The two fronts could probably go for another couple of thousand miles but the backs are nearly at the marker ridge and I have felt the car slide a little around corners recently and so I decided the time had come to change them all. My car is a lease car that goes back in July next year and so buying a set of winters and summers now made no sense. I have been following other people on here who have gone with All Season tyres and I decided a while ago that when the time came I would go with them, they would give me the best solution for the next 9 months. I drive in an area that has many untreated roads in the winter and whilst the Dunlops, and 4wd, were very good last year I thought a little extra help would not go amiss.

Due to Skoda's rather annoying choice of putting 17" tyres on my car the choices out there are rather limited, no Vredestein's at 225/50/R17/94 for example. Mytyres came out as the best option and the Nokian Entyre being the most econmical. Nokians have a good reputation and the Entyre also seems to be well regarded so I don't see that getting them is a compromise. Anyway I have ordered them now, £107 inc VAT and delivery, per tyre and my local fitter will fit them for £6 per corner, luckily my work can reclaim the VAT so it will work out at around £95 per tyre fitted.

As winter comes, and maybe snow as well, I will keep people updated as to how they perform, how they wear, noise levels etc and whether they are a good alternative to standard tyres.

My tyres have now run for 22,000 miles, I swapped them over at 12,000. The two fronts could probably go for another couple of thousand miles but the backs are nearly at the marker ridge and I have felt the car slide a little around corners recently and so I decided the time had come to change them all. My car is a lease car that goes back in July next year and so buying a set of winters and summers now made no sense. I have been following other people on here who have gone with All Season tyres and I decided a while ago that when the time came I would go with them, they would give me the best solution for the next 9 months. I drive in an area that has many untreated roads in the winter and whilst the Dunlops, and 4wd, were very good last year I thought a little extra help would not go amiss.

Due to Skoda's rather annoying choice of putting 17" tyres on my car the choices out there are rather limited, no Vredestein's at 225/50/R17/94 for example. Mytyres came out as the best option and the Nokian Entyre being the most econmical. Nokians have a good reputation and the Entyre also seems to be well regarded so I don't see that getting them is a compromise. Anyway I have ordered them now, £107 inc VAT and delivery, per tyre and my local fitter will fit them for £6 per corner, luckily my work can reclaim the VAT so it will work out at around £95 per tyre fitted.

As winter comes, and maybe snow as well, I will keep people updated as to how they perform, how they wear, noise levels etc and whether they are a good alternative to standard tyres.

Hi Edmund,

The Nokians sound like a good investment at a great price too. I too have found my Yeti slipping a little on wet roundabouts recently, only 16k miles on the Dunlops. I wouldn't be suprised if Morpeth had some snow in the next few weeks. So you should have little trouble getting around

It was a funny sensation when I first noticed it, going around a roundabout or corner and feeling the back end give a little slide. It goes to show how sure footed the car normally is. It also show how key the tyres are, the car is still the same so it can only be the tyres. There was never any danger, I don't drive that way, but it was interesting!

I've run Nokians for the last two winters - WRG2s and my Octavia felt like it was on rails in the cold and the wet. You should have no issues whatsoever if the entyre is anything like the WRG2.

I've run Nokians for the last two winters - WRG2s and my Octavia felt like it was on rails in the cold and the wet. You should have no issues whatsoever if the entyre is anything like the WRG2.

It won't have the outright grip of the WRG2's being a 4 season tyre, but much better than the Dunlops.....

It won't have the outright grip of the WRG2's being a 4 season tyre, but much better than the Dunlops.....

my rear left dunlop lasted 780 miles before succumbing to something sharp so i'm on the vredesteins from now til spring

Nokian Entyres are the worst Nokians I have ever bought, understeer and skid in the wet is what defines them. Will not buy Entyres again. You have been warned.

I like Nokians, have been using the following: summer H, V, Z, Z G2, winter/all-weather: WR, Entyre

By all means get Nokian WRs, they will last well and offer excellent traction on ice/snow/slush.

On my Octavia, I use Nokian WRs on front axle in winter, and put them onto rear axle for summer.

They last at least 15k miles (to 3mm thread) when used in this manner, which is a lot considering that they're softer than normal summer tyres. With ESP on the car and some common sense to expect oversteer when entering roundabouts in deep snow, the setup works very well.

The other tyre pair is Entyres at the moment and I will not buy them again for their wet handling.

On the other car (Superb Mk1 that goes across Europe often), I have all 4 winter wheels, Pirelli Wintersports, they are much thicker thread and so more capable in the snow.

But for UK weather, it is hard to beat Nokian WRs.

my rear left dunlop lasted 780 miles before succumbing to something sharp so i'm on the vredesteins from now til spring

My OEM tyres are magnetic, 5 punctures in 15K :'(

Have just had four Nokian eNTYRE 215/60 R16 99V XL fitted to my Yeti. Cost £72.20 each plus £8.50 fitting etc. each.

Just in time for the cold temperatures and snow forecast in Central Scotland in the next few days!

Have only driven a few miles so far. First impressions are a little more noise on rough surfaces but more grip than originals

Resurrecting my post, as it seems people are prepared to push the eNtyre catastrophe onto unsuspecting users. If you like Nokians and want winter/all weather ones, get Nokian WRs, eNtyres are a disaster waiting to happen in the wet.

Nokian Entyres are the worst Nokians I have ever bought, understeer and skid in the wet is what defines them. Will not buy Entyres again. You have been warned.

I like Nokians, have been using the following: summer H, V, Z, Z G2, winter/all-weather: WR, Entyre

By all means get Nokian WRs, they will last well and offer excellent traction on ice/snow/slush.

On my Octavia, I use Nokian WRs on front axle in winter, and put them onto rear axle for summer.

They last at least 15k miles (to 3mm thread) when used in this manner, which is a lot considering that they're softer than normal summer tyres. With ESP on the car and some common sense to expect oversteer when entering roundabouts in deep snow, the setup works very well.

The other tyre pair is Entyres at the moment and I will not buy them again for their wet handling.

On the other car (Superb Mk1 that goes across Europe often), I have all 4 winter wheels, Pirelli Wintersports, they are much thicker thread and so more capable in the snow.

But for UK weather, it is hard to beat Nokian WRs.

They seem to get good reports from other users!

Try going into and out of a mini roundabout in the rain at 20mph, with Nokian Entyres on front axle. I am quite sure your opinion on EnTyres will be very quickly (re)formed, as will the front / side of your car if there are any obstacles close by.

On all other Nokians (H,V,Z,WR) you can try the same experiment at 30mph and nothing remotely exciting will happen (other than body roll).

I think the reason for poor wet performance is too hard rubber compound to maintain wear rating despite extra sipes etc.

I compared side by side Nokian WRs and WRs are made from far softer rubber interlaced with silica.

Edited 15 December, 201114 yr by dieselV6

I think my first response to that would be that you are advised to fit winter tyres to all 4 wheels, not just the front, so that might have affected what happened.

I tried 2x Entyre tyres on the front axle in SPRING/SUMMER in the wet. Results exactly as described, which is why the went on the rear axle 3 months earlier than I did with Nokian H last winter. The Entyres offered poor direction control in any weather that involves water on the road.

I fail to see how having rear axle tyres of different brand to front axle changes understeer. If in doubt, I suggest a quick course in understeer/oversteer (internet read will probably do).

Once again, if you want good grip drive all year on all weather tyres, buy 4x Nokian WRs, rather than suggest that Entyres are any good in the wet as that might cost someone their life. Entyres are made from very hard "low rolling resistance" composite and are rubbish in the wet.

Of course, if you thought carefully about how underster/oversteer works, and how oversteer is corrected in ESP-equipped cars, you would realize that front axle tyres are far more important as they prevent underster and that any oversteer caused by rear tyres is corrected by ESP using front tyres anyway. I had plenty of practice last winter, I make it a point to go to an empty snow covered car park and remind myself about limit handling every year.

In fact, until a few years back I used to have 2 full sets of winter wheels for both cars, but the set for Octavia made no sense once it stopped leaving the UK. Basically, on ice and in the snow and under sensible speeds, as long as front tyres had grip, you could drive as normal, with ESP stepping in and braking one of FRONT tyres if you pushed the rear tyres too far. If the front tyres lose grip, the rear ones wont help you, as due to substantially lower weight on rear axle the grip there is far lower in all but spirited driving conditions.

Since you keep questioning my posts, I have to ask, are you selling entyres and worry about profit?

Check http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Nokian/eNTYRE.htm

Examples:

"Fine in dry and ok in snow, but low grip in wet conditions. At sharp turns you can feel the car sliding."

Apparently, on Citroens they cause oversteer

"On dry wheather, it's OK.

But for now, my feeling is quite bad on wet road : I experienced 3 times a loss of adherence on the rear wheel, including a full turn-around at low speed (about 40km/h)."

You can read more negative reviews also on other tyre review sites. The brief but honest "bad" reviews are invariably followed by streams and streams of text about how the Entyres are actually OK, no doubt from people connected with tyre trade. The writing style, partly consistent between them gives the game away. The Audi review on the page I pointed to is quite funny, especially the part about how "low rolling resistance results in tighter roll" , though on reflection it makes you sick that potential customers are being sold a pup.

Edited 15 December, 201114 yr by dieselV6

I'd concluded that Nokian eNTYRE maybe should be considered as all season for the US market, probably in areas that have a slightly warmer climate than in the UK. I think they're marked as M+S but do not have the mountain triple peak snowflake symbol, which suggests they'd not be significantly better than summers in wintery conditions.

I'd be looking at other all season tyres that do have the mountain triple peak snowflake symbol, if any can be found in the desired size.

dieselV6,

No I don't sell tyres, I'm a railway signalman!

1/ All I have said is that others have reported differntly to you about these tyres.

2/ The general advice from the experts in the tyre trade and the motoring industry is to fit 4 winter tyres, not just 2 to the driven axle, as this could cause problems with handling. There have bben several links to videos showing such here!

Au revoir.

4 winter tyres work best in winter, no question about that. However, cost of 4 tyres and what to do with them after a very short winter for the rest of the year are the main reasons why so few people use them in the UK.

So if you must economize, and happen to have FWD, ESP-equipped car, get 2 durable winter tyres (Nokian WRs or others) and put them on front axle only for winter, then swap tyres front to rear for spring to autumn. You'll still get very decent mileage out of all tyres when used in this manner.

Rear tyres matter a lot less, e.g. last winter I had longitudinal groove summer Nokian Hs which are actually pathetic in snow (though lots better than Entyres on water), and yet I drove without problems throughout the snowfall and ice. Basically, anything that is not low rolling resistance and has some lateral grooves will do just fine for winter at rear of FWD car.

As I explained earlier, due to weight transfer when things go wrong and you try to brake, heavy-nosed FWD car such as yours or mine will not be saved by rear tyres. Essentially, even large oversteer is correctable, but even moderate understeer can take you off the road.

Edited 16 December, 201114 yr by dieselV6

After over two months use, I have not experienced any problems with the four Nokian entyres fitted to my Yeti. I have no evidence that they are any good in deep snow or very cold conditions because we have had next to none of these conditions this winter in the West of Scotland. However, as usual, we have had plenty of wet weather and I have found that they perform well.

I have no doubt that ideally you should have different tyres for different seasons and different conditions but all season tyres seem to me to be a good compromise in our variable (but rarely extreme) weather conditions.

Incidentally, I suspect if I were connected to the tyre trade, I would want everyone to have more than one set of tyres!

Edited 17 February, 201214 yr by finebone

After over two months use, I have not experienced any problems with the four Nokian entyres fitted to my Yeti. I have no evidence that they are any good in deep snow or very cold conditions because we have had next to none of these conditions this winter in the West of Scotland. However, as usual, we have had plenty of wet weather and I have found that they perform well.

I have no doubt that ideally you should have different tyres for different seasons and different conditions but all season tyres seem to me to be a good compromise in our variable (but rarely extreme) weather conditions.

Incidentally, I suspect if I were connected to the tyre trade, I would want everyone to have more than one set of tyres!

Hi finebone,

glad to hear all is going well with your tyre choice; sound just the job for the conditions your having over on the west side.

All the best,

TP

Well my experience of the Nokians that I have for winter are mixed.

In the cold & icy weather that we've had they were really good apart from one incident which slung the car to one side quite violently & it was a good job nothing was coming the other way otherwise it would have been very messy; And before anyone says I was going too fast I was doing 25 mph on a dead straight piece of road.

The other was when it was just a tad damp and I went around a corner and the car just went like it was on ordinary tyres on ice, again luckily nothing coming the other way, I was able to correct it without any problem.

I've now taken them off and I don't know if I'll bother putting them back on again, even if it does snow again. My confidence in them has now been severely dented.