I know that the insurance companies will charge more for just about any mod you do to your car but what are the Skoda warranty implications of a remap? I am assuming that you are on dodgy ground should there be a subsequent issue which can be traced back to the remap, but I have recently seen an advert for a Revo remap on a Fabia Mk2 vRS from a main dealer. I have emailed them asking the question but as yet no answer.

I have heard that dealers selling the revo map will honour warrenty.. my dealer said any remap will viod my warrenty...

Im led to believe that SEAT no longer offer revo at its dealers now since their demo Ibiza went bang as both sides claimed they were not at fault. Dont kow the ins and outs of it, or its truth, only what was posted on the other forum, but i wouldnt expect a full warranty.

Eitherway tbh, you will only lose out on a warranty issue if they can prove the remap was the cause of the issue. So if its not a direct result of the issue, then your warranty is intact.

This was posted on seatcupranet which i think throws out any warranty work with a revo remap.

=lucifer666;3696364]Right, just got off the phone with revo. Outcome was as follows:

1. BGKBKR7EIX Plugs are what revo have tested with and recommend, together with the new SEAT update 2.

Revo dont know what the new plugs seat recommend are, but in this blokes own words:

"we dont care, SEAT cant even get their own software to work properly without misfiring"

Apparently the misfiring problems were down to the standard engine management code that was created for these engines. Revo just take this code and adjust the timing, fuel, boost etc but the procedure that the engine looks after itself under different parameters is where the problem was. All engines will misfire from time to time but whether or not it creates a big problem depends on how the code is written and how its handled.

You start off by having a misfire and the code will ensure the engine regulates fuel/air so the mix is correct for the revs/boost etc. That should be the end of it, that was the case during normal engine temps.

But SEAT/VW didnt account for when the block temp was at a certain value (*ucking high!) and when this occured the code in the ecu made the engine loose control of the fuel being injected and started dumping fuel in.

This together with the first lot of injectors(which were crap) and used to clog up meant that engines were overfuled, spray patterns were distorted and cylinders got deglazed, fuel leaking into the oil which eats the piston rings, lost preassure in the block, DEAD ENGINE. Also the oil can find itself into the cylinder and being burnt and therefore damaging the CAT(causing emissions light to flash) and causing further missfires which the engine code cant deal with.

The new plugs are shorter so that the fuel/air mix should "flow past" and not "around" the electrode, keeping plug temps down and not impeding the tip with black powder. This should minimize small misfires to begin with which is when the problem starts and also if there is a decent sized misfire the plug can still keep its spark and do its job. Also the new software has additional coding for a wider variety of parameters so if temps are high it should be able to conrol whats going on.

He said that the oil consumption is defo related to the misfiring.

2. New SEAT supplied uprated piston rings

These are being given to all new 1.4tsi engines. They were due out from this august so theres quite a few kicking about already. ANYONE WITH OIL CONSUMPTION PROBLEMS ARE SUPPOSED TO GET THESE, IF YOUR RINGS ARE CKECKED IF BROUGHT IN FOR A MISFIRE PROBLEM AND THERE ARE SIGNS OF WARE, YOU SHOULD GET THESE.

3. Further than stage 2 developments are unlikely from revo on these engines

The main point from revo is that if you get this plug, together with the update and also the piston rings, this is a reliable engine. So there we have it! Hopfully problem solved?

*Another thought, I think we must concentrate our tuning on bringing block temps down before doing anything else. Thats going to be the main problem tuning this engine and the thing which is going to *uck us up.

not sure of the truth in it, but im interested in finding out what piston rings i have on mine. Might be worth me pre-empting an issuewith all the work i have planned for mine.

I know that the insurance companies will charge more for just about any mod you do to your car but what are the Skoda warranty implications of a remap? I am assuming that you are on dodgy ground should there be a subsequent issue which can be traced back to the remap, but I have recently seen an advert for a Revo remap on a Fabia Mk2 vRS from a main dealer. I have emailed them asking the question but as yet no answer.

Go see them in person.

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Would go to them but they are about 2 hours drive away and it is not really high on my priority list, just trying to answer a few questions. Also always good to have things like that in writing.

My concern is that if something goes wrong then the immediate position of the dealers and Skoda will be that it is down to the remap and therefore not their problem. So it would be down to me to prove it is not a remap issue. Wouldn't be an issue if it was something unrelated but most engine related issues seem to get quite expensive.

On my Octavia I broke down once and was recovered to the nearest garage who opened my car to find all sorts of mode. Turned out to be a sensor failed, which they replaced under warranty as the map wouldn't be at fault

On my Octavia I broke down once and was recovered to the nearest garage who opened my car to find all sorts of mode. Turned out to be a sensor failed, which they replaced under warranty as the map wouldn't be at fault

people say this, and I know you are right, because I know the law.... if the fault isn't caused by the remap they have to honour the warrenty... However my dealer says the warrenty will be void, and I would have a hell of a job convincing them otherwise.... I wouldn't want prelonged fights, I'd just want a fault fixed!

If you're afraid voiding the warranty of your car, then you'd have three alternatives:

1. Purchase the tuning kit from the company which is officially accepted by Skoda. I dunno whether there are such companies (haven't got so much into "Skoda world" yet) but better to check it out.

2. Purchase the tuning kit from the company which can provide an engine warranty to the car they've tuned. That engine warranty usually covers the possible damages of engine, gear box and drivetrain caused by a tuning.

3. Don't purchase any tuning kit at all '

I've chosen to purchase a tuning box for my SuperB Greenline which "fools" the fuel pressure regulator. It's fully removable and thus wonderful for a leasing car

I've chosen to purchase a tuning box for my SuperB Greenline which "fools" the fuel pressure regulator. It's fully removable and thus wonderful for a leasing car

Fuel pressure is logged so they can still see you've done it. Basically, everything is logged these days. And your insurance is worthless too. For what? 35bhp? It's not worth it.

If you're afraid voiding the warranty of your car, then you'd have three alternatives:

1. Purchase the tuning kit from the company which is officially accepted by Skoda. I dunno whether there are such companies (haven't got so much into "Skoda world" yet) but better to check it out.

2. Purchase the tuning kit from the company which can provide an engine warranty to the car they've tuned. That engine warranty usually covers the possible damages of engine, gear box and drivetrain caused by a tuning.

3. Don't purchase any tuning kit at all '

I've chosen to purchase a tuning box for my SuperB Greenline which "fools" the fuel pressure regulator. It's fully removable and thus wonderful for a leasing car

I am concerned about the affect on the warranty (hence the question) and as it is a new car my default will be to leave it stock. If I can find an approved map, great, but I doubt I will, still waiting on a response about the Revo map offered by a main dealer.

Had no considered the possibility of an external warranty from the tuner, do any actually offer this?

Have looked at tuning boxes but as someone has already said they are not undetectable, also chances are knowing my luck that I would breakdown and not have a chance to remove it!

The 35bhp gain sounds good but it does put the engine and components under additional stress and those have to be balanced against the impact of a failure. I will run it as stock at least over the winter to see what it is like, run it in and get usd to it. 180ish bhp sounds more than enough in a car that size and I am amazed they got that out of a 1.4, let alone tuning it even further. In my old Octy Mk1 vRS, the same power was plenty, only a few times would a bit more have been nice.

loads do external warrenty with tuning.. all superchips maps are covered with a warrenty, and TMC sell one for their tuning boxes (optional , about £150 per year I think) which covers engine and gearbox inclusively.

Fuel pressure is logged so they can still see you've done it. Basically, everything is logged these days. And your insurance is worthless too. For what? 35bhp? It's not worth it.

Yeah, but how would they know that there's been a CR Tuning box? Fuel pressure "faults" can be seen but if there's no physical thing (=tuning box) attached when testing, one might as well think that it's been a temporary error.

It's a totally different thing if you have a remapped ECU box. That's easier to pinpoint and therefore you'd need two ECU boxes to hide the tuning at the maintenance garage. Or then you can take your car to a familiar garage where they don't give a damn whether you've tuned your car or not.

For extra 35bhp? Hell yes! If you're going to tune your car, the biggest difference you'll gain is with "stage 1" tuning, i.e. approx. +35bhp, +70Nm. It has really made a big difference when I'm driving my SuperB Greenline estate. It also did when I purchased stage 1 kit for my SAAB ten years ago. After that I tried stage 3 and stage 4 but they didn't make so much difference when compared to tuning from original to stage 1. Stage 4+ finally made a bigger difference.

After taking approx. +115bhp, +137Nm out of my SAAB (compared to original and it's running as good as ever), I wouldn't be afraid of using that CR tuning box for my SuperB Greenline. After all I just need the extra power & torque for overtaking purposes, not for "all-hell-breaks-loose" type of driving.

Got a response from Rainworth about the Revo remap they offer.

Hi we are a Skoda dealer and have no issues with warranty claims on

remapped cars, the revo remapping keeps everything safe on the car, the

map does not show on the Skoda dealer computers as being done, and will

give no issues with the car as revo try and test them prior to releasing

them to the network. IF (AND THAT'S A MASSIVE IF) the ECU failed because

of the map then it would be sorted out via us / Revo. All other items on

the car would be covered by the Skoda warranty.

Interesting that that the remap does not show up on the dealer computers, wonder if that is the same for other remaps or are they talking about the work completed system?

I can't believe that this thread ended here ?

From the 'Horses mouth' so to say, that Revo maps are OK on your Skoda ?

That must be something worth looking into, surely ? :S

I can't believe that this thread ended here ?

From the 'Horses mouth' so to say, that Revo maps are OK on your Skoda ?

That must be something worth looking into, surely ? :S

I believed the conclusion reached was the Revo remap was fine if you continued to use the dealer who put it on. The rest of the dealers are at their own discretion.

My car went in for 20k service with remap and mods and got no problems. They seemed quite interested actually

I get the impression that each dealer would have to make their own mind up, and reading some dealer reviews on here I wouldn't be holding my breath with some of them.

I get the impression that each dealer would have to make their own mind up, and reading some dealer reviews on here I wouldn't be holding my breath with some of them.

indeed, my dealer is of the opinion.. " a remap will void your warrenty sir..."

Im changing to revo for a few reasons and this is one of them

indeed, my dealer is of the opinion.. " a remap will void your warrenty sir..."

On the powertrain, yes. However, I'd be severely peeved at them if they refused to maintain or fix a leaky sunroof or knackered aircon because of a remap.

J.

My gal just received our Yeti in Italy but we'll hold off on engine mods until the warranty dies. Ok, maybe a K&N filter but that's about it. I know that here in the USA if the dealer detects a chip mod, the warranty on the drive train is toast. Oh well, for every plus there is an equal minus.