I think i mentioned something along these lines before but bare with me.

Bought my Octy vrs in September and ater two week of ownership, clutch judder became apparent, went to Skoda, they said yes the DMF is on its way out but not within tolerances so it cannot be covered by warranty untill this are met.

What are these tolerances? As weeks have rolled on the symptoms are getting worse, on a cold start up the DMF will knock, when changing from 3rd to 4th it still has judder, pulling away from certain junctions (more like hill starts) there will be judder and while out in the car last night having a little think of how to kill the bugger, every hill i found i put it in the highest possible gear and let it struggle but i dont want to break anything else.

Does anyone know if there is an inspection hole on the bell housing? there used to be on a mk4 golf in which i could stick a long screwdriver in and actually move the separate faces of the DMF, proving that it has seen better days.

the only reason i moan on is because i want a remap while i have got a little spare money and i know these DMF's can take forever to go (sometimes)

Thanks guys

Cant you take it to a different skoda dealer,there is no way id put up with that fault on a car id recently purchased.

Park it at the supplying dealer, hand them the keys and give them a letter in writing stating that clutch judder is not expected in a new car and as such you consider the car unfit for purpose.

Give them the option to repair, replace or refund you on the car.

I'd think that would do the job, and if you check out direct.gov for advice on the sales of goods act and the goods being fit for purpose, then I think you should have a good basis for your letter.

If it was on finance, get the finance company involved first as they have a good amount of power as I believe they also have some liability.

i paid for it outright. Iv been on the phone to Skoda customer services, they have made a case for me, contacted DM Keith in york and made them aware of the situation but keep saying that unless it is within certain tolerance they will not touch it.

i told the mechanic that it will eventfully end up back here so why not just fix it now? but apparently the gearbox needs to come off for them to fully conclude that it needs a new DMF, 4 hours labour and if it is not within these tolerances i will landing with a bill for taking off the gearbox

Well yes there is an inspection hole, as I had my DMF changed many times.

I personally think you're being too nice and I'd just drop it back with them as not fit for purpose.

Your dealer needs to fix it now as sometimes when the DMF fails it does it at high rpm, bits come flying off and punch a hole in the bell housing. At least, they did on the MKV Golf/Jetta series.

can you not call Skoda UK customer service !!! they seem very helpful, maybe they can talk to the local dealer for you.

If it's anything like mine, once it REALLY started getting noticable, it was only a matter of 2 or 3 weeks before it was at the stage where it HAD to be done.

One of the quickest things to kill a DMF is to allow the engine to labour by asking it to pull from very low revs, especially if you ignore the vibration and carry on accelerating.

Mike

Hi mike, this is what iv been doing but i dont like actually going out my way to break a car i love haha

will they replace the clutch?

Let's just hope no-one from the dealer is reading this thread!

Here is a very recent post:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/34762-d-m-keith-york-ltd-york/page__view__findpost__p__2564345

In case it isn't clear who he is from this post then:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/34762-d-m-keith-york-ltd-york/page__view__findpost__p__2520897

edit

for some reason that last link is pulling up the wrong post! It is post 40 (last one on page 2) I was trying to link.

Edited 25 November, 201114 yr by eccleshill

Here is a very recent post:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/34762-d-m-keith-york-ltd-york/page__view__findpost__p__2564345

In case it isn't clear who he is from this post then:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/34762-d-m-keith-york-ltd-york/page__view__findpost__p__2520897

edit

for some reason that last link is pulling up the wrong post! It is post 40 (last one on page 2) I was trying to link.

Thanks for your help, iv sent email to [email protected], explaining the situation, hopfully might be able to get the ball rolling.

Well mike, i know what im doing tonight! finding some big hills (which is not hard around here) and see what happens...

Thanks for your help, iv sent email to [email protected], explaining the situation, hopfully might be able to get the ball rolling.

Glad to be of help but that wasn't quite the point I was trying to make.

It was more - be careful what you say, you don't know who's listening! Asking for advice on how to break your DMF so you can get a remap won't do much for yor warranty prospects!

btw - may I recommend a day trip to Runswick Bay. Be very careful not to miss the entrance on the right to the public carpark as you approach the quayside or you will need to perform a very tricky turn on quite a steep hill.

hmm good point haha! well it was broken before i bought it, i doubt i did it within two weeks/50 or so miles? of going steady aswell.

i just want to get it within these stupid tolerances

How about down to the bottom of Robin hoods Bay, and back up again in top gear? (For those who don't know it, it's a 1 in 3, very narrow, and a sod to get started on again if you have to stop!)

Took mother-in-law down there last time we were over -- never seen her go white before whilst I'm driving!

Mike

have you been up blue bank in sleights? thats even steeper! thats sorts out the turbo's from the non turbos haha

Hi mike, this is what iv been doing but i dont like actually going out my way to break a car i love haha

will they replace the clutch?

No, they do not replace the clutch, unless it has been obviously damaged by the DMF.

I know this from experience, but after a few DMF changes, took piece of mind to get a new clutch put on at my own cost.

hmm good point haha! well it was broken before i bought it, i doubt i did it within two weeks/50 or so miles? of going steady aswell.

i just want to get it within these stupid tolerances

Ahh if it's second hand and you got it from a main dealer don't you have a certain amount of time to change your mind and pick another car?

That would do the job.

No, they do not replace the clutch, unless it has been obviously damaged by the DMF.

I know this from experience, but after a few DMF changes, took piece of mind to get a new clutch put on at my own cost.

Hmm well a new clutch from skoda aint going to be cheap, the car has just 57,000 miles so the clutch still has plently of life in it but id rather get it done

Hmm well a new clutch from skoda aint going to be cheap, the car has just 57,000 miles so the clutch still has plently of life in it but id rather get it done

£200, but if you speak nicely to skoda, they might (read did for me) allow you to pay the difference between the DMF kit and the DMF + clutch kit, which is less.

Ahh if it's second hand and you got it from a main dealer don't you have a certain amount of time to change your mind and pick another car?

That would do the job.

There was a 1000 miles/ 1 month exhange deal thing, but i had done my 1000 miles in 2 weeks. i wouldt want to get rid for another just for a dmf failure as it will happen on another one

Curious here to read this..

My vRS cr170 shudders a little from new when cold.

Turned 20k kms today and hasn't got any worse.

Is it something I should get checked out?

theres certainly no harm in getting it checked out

theres certainly no harm in getting it checked out

I should have been more specific there.

It only happens on first take off when cold.

after that it is perfect.

- it shouldt do it at all.

When you set of in first what are the revs roughly? i know diesels are a little more lumpy when cold and not giving them enough revs can give quiet a jerky response but there should be no judder.

How to cure first-move-off-of-the-day judder. Often or usually or did it for me. As you sit in the car waiting for the glowplug light or more likely faffing about with the seat belt pump the clutch pedal to the floor 10 to 20 times.

- it shouldt do it at all.

When you set of in first what are the revs roughly? i know diesels are a little more lumpy when cold and not giving them enough revs can give quiet a jerky response but there should be no judder.

Tried a bit more revs today after reading this and no judder

Tried a bit more revs today after reading this and no judder

it will make your clutch and dmf last long if you give it a few more revs when setting off, it will not put the spring in the dmf under so much pressure

Just getting in to the habit of doing it all the time, like not holding it on the clutch at junctions ect and when creeping in traffic dont ride the clutch, its become second nature to me now

Edited 26 November, 201114 yr by Ema_jane