p21212, thanks for that comparison.

if I am buying a 1.8 tsi from the year 2010, I will more than likely have to go to the UK to buy one, so it will be more a less UK prices. But I will have to pay roughly 3000 Euro VRT on top of the price I pay for the car !!!! I bought my Audi in the UK in this way too and probably saved 500 Euro by going to the UK, even with VRT , flights , ferries etc.

UK cars have a better spec than irish cars and a better selection.

Id love to get this 1.8 tsi due to it being cheaper to buy, no timing belt, dpf etc. BUT then I may have the resale issue ( as in no one will want to buy a 1.8 petrol car ) and the issue where it may not be as torquey as the Audi

I anticipate you pay a lot less in the first place so surely it cancels this out.

Also I appreciate you live in Southern Ireland and I`m ignorant as to the values between like for like cars, I bet the 1.8 TSI is loads less?

I paid £5199 for a 58 Reg "December 2008" Pre face lift that was in dealer condition albeit with 62K on the clock

A mate paid £7200 for a 57 Reg TDi.... so currently I have " hypothetically speaking £2000 sat in the bank

Currently the extra fuel costs on my monthly commute mean I`m eating into the £2000 at a rate of just £30 a month....we do the same mileage

Meaning in over SIX years we will have broken even.... that is if the gap stays the same... derv is getting pricier every month!

However he has the timing belt to replace and the spectre of a DMF that will go eventually.

If you want silence at the lights, in traffic and a SMOOTH surge that goes from about 2000 rpm and keeps going till 7000 rpm then this might be the car for you

In a couple of years, diesel cars might not be as attractive as they currently are , the gap is growing rapidly and is currently 40p a gallon in the UK

Of course this is only my opinion...

you sound like lol!

A car is only worth as much as someone will pay. As is cased with the one the op has seen, its been Sat there for months so yes it has a value but is a nightmare to sell so currently to the seller it is worthless to her or him.

I bet if it was a tdi, it wouldn't have Sat there with a flat battery!

A mate paid £7200 for a 57 Reg TDi....

Thats a PD TDi not a CR TDi

However he has the timing belt to replace and the spectre of a DMF that will go eventually.

Thats ok the money he saved over you in road tax every year you didn't mention will sort that out :p DMF may not fail a lot of variables to determine that mostly with his driving style.

If you want silence at the lights

Have you heard a CR at the lights? I can't hear mine from inside it.

Meaning in over SIX years we will have broken even.... that is if the gap stays the same...

after 6 years I would very much doubt the diesel has depreciated by the same monetary value more likely (purely fictional figures, but for example) the petrol looses 3K in value while diesel looses 2K.

In a couple of years, diesel cars might not be as attractive as they currently are , the gap is growing rapidly and is currently 40p a gallon in the UK

Feb 2012 UK fuel report shows in UK diesel went up on average 0.9ppl and unleaded went up 1.5ppl SHRINKING the gap.

For the 2 cars under consideration here based on UK stuff and off published stats Diesel costs 5.5% more per litre but the diesel does 11% more MPG over the 1.8 TSI so I can't see why this makes for a change in the tide of diesel popularity in the UK its moving in the opposite direction completely. And as for the MPG figures 44mpg is listed for the 1.8TSI and 49mpg for CR TDi but I know for a fact I can easily get 55mpg in my diesel but I doubt any TSI owners find it possible to get the same 6MPG more than Skoda publishes so easily.

How ever over all I would have done exactly the same as you and got the petrol one if keeping it 6 years etc to lessen initial outlay but in a perfect financial world I would still have had the diesel.

Whatever the car, the TDI brigade always say if you don't buy a diesel, you are mad and deserve to lose money??

Like myself there will always be a market for those that refuse to follow suit and buy in to the current hype that is " diesel car = saves you loads"

Unless you do the miles or keep the car for years this simply is not true!

Not everyone wants a diesel either!

I defy anyone to get better value than a 1.8 TSI in both performance and cost... its a Skoda VRS in sheeps clothing!

Edited 6 March, 201214 yr by PC1212

Whatever the car, the TDI brigade always say if you don't buy a diesel, you are mad and deserve to lose money??

Like myself there will always be a market for those that refuse to follow suit and buy in to the current hype that is " diesel car = saves you loads"

Unless you do the miles or keep the car for years this simply is not true!

Not everyone wants a diesel either!

I defy anyone to get better value than a 1.8 TSI in both performance and cost... its a Skoda VRS in sheeps clothing!

nice to see you've edited your post as I was going to ask where all these Cr problem threads are.

Its not about it being a diesel, its about availability and future ease of resale. Op currently has a diesel and has already mentioned the lack of torque in the tsi.

Finally are you sure you aren't lol under a different name as frankly you're on a par with him.

I have a TSi and I beg to differ... my car pulls like a train

It is a shame the OP did not have a blast in my car

The TSi is an alternative and IMHO combines the best of both worlds

I have a TSi and I beg to differ... my car pulls like a train

It is a shame the OP did not have a blast in my car

The TSi is an alternative and IMHO combines the best of both worlds

did you drive both?

And that would be your car that's chipped so hardly a comparison.

Edited 6 March, 201214 yr by jrw

Whatever the car, the TDI brigade always say if you don't buy a diesel, you are mad and deserve to lose money??

Like myself there will always be a market for those that refuse to follow suit and buy in to the current hype that is " diesel car = saves you loads"

Read above posts your diesel brigade in this thread have suggested merits of both petrol and diesel.... only one person in here with a one sided view on the matter. :think:

Unless you do the miles or keep the car for years this simply is not true!

like six years? read my post above I can crunch some numbers down more if you really wish.

Not everyone wants a diesel either!

They don't ??? OMG that must explain why they are still making and selling petrol cars then wow you learn something new every day!

I defy anyone to get better value than a 1.8 TSI in both performance and cost... its a Skoda VRS in sheeps clothing!

Read my earlier reply to you, for your suggested 6 years of ownership example cost is covered (I can go a lot further in depth if you really like) and performance/VRS in sheeps clothing........ Oh really lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol (sorry my fingers slipped several times) The 1.8TSi as I see it is one of best 1.8 litre mid sized cars on market but its not in the VRS today for a reason and there are a hell of a lot more differences between that and a VRS petrol or diesel.

I have a diesel as my main car because diesel for me is €1.39 a litre and petrol is €1.80 a litre so try and run a TSI here! (I am obviously a diesel brigade sheep of course) The world does not revolve around the price at your local service station there are members from all over the world on Briskoda not just in the UK, like the OP and myself!

A little more back on topic at moment in the Republic of Ireland the average petrol rice is only €0.05 cheaper than diesel (£0.04) so that slims the gap a lot too in comparison to the off topic UK related costs that we have slide into. As I said above definitely need to test drive the CR TDi VRS now and if possible another 1.8TSi just to be sure. Here is the link for the Octavia II VRS owners register Ireland see if anyone local will oblige for the VRS experience a remapped one and a stock would be good!

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/107133-mkii-vrs-register-ireland/page__st__120

***Disclaimer***I say all of the above as someone who has 3 vehicles and only 1 of them is a diesel. But I can see beyond a single car based on type of fuel it runs on.

Maybe I have come across all wrong...?

If I was "given" a 58 VRS CR TDI then I would not complain.

What would anybody do on here if faced with a the same dilemma that I had?

I wanted a newer car, eventually it was narrowed down to the Octavia, from a list of BMW, Ford, VW and Audi

And yes I drove both, VRS CR and petrol variants, excellent cars

IMHO tough on me back over the crumbling East Lancashire roads,on the motorway lovely, but I rarely use the motorways, I only do 32 miles a day

Could I justify the extra £3000 for the extra surge and the badge?

Reluctantly I decided against the VRS because luckily for me I found a car which was a good compromise of the both performance, economy and running costs....

The TSi is not a better car... just the best car for me at the moment