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The current TV is on a wooden unit which stands about 3 ft high so didn't want it too big.

If you're thinking of getting a new stand they can be pretty pricey, and avoid black glass, they're an absolute :swear: magnet for dust.

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  • Agreed, There is so much confusion, with people believing that LED TV's are a lot more than they really are its very confusing. LCD = LCD panel lit by CCFL bulbs LED = LCD panel lit by LEDs, as me

  • You know, I think you've just presented yourself with the idiot of the week award. LED TV is not running LED's it's LED's doing the job of a back light instead of a cold cathode. I've already said t

My living room is probably about same size, perhaps just a big longer so didn't want it over powering the room. The current TV is on a wooden unit which stands about 3 ft high so didn't want it too big. But I reckon that given the prices of 40" this is what we'll go for.

Just using Currys for reviewing and looking at them at the mo.

I went 21 to 32 to 40.

I have the Sony bravia and its great. Freeview hd and internet connectivity.

The 32 is now in the bedroom.

A new bigger tv looks big for about 10mins then looks fine and leaving you wishing you'd gone bigger!

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Thanks jrw - am looking at either Sony or Samsung at the min.

Thanks jrw - am looking at either Sony or Samsung at the min.

Just pic your fave, chances are the Sony has a Samsung panel anyway. I preferred the XMB menu on the Sony the same as the PS3.

Plasma for dark scenes as produces a better black

A new bigger tv looks big for about 10mins then looks fine and leaving you wishing you'd gone bigger!

I'd certainly agree with that

Got my parents a 40" (hobo make) one on ebuyer with free delivery and 3 year warranty £299 perfectly good TV was only LCD but tbh they are old and cannot tell the difference that much or at least im saying they wouldn't appreciate it. I have been keeping up to date with the times on TV's for last 7 years or so and currently on a nice (whats known as LED) 46" Samsung one and tbh the 40" LCD samsung one it replaced was highest model for size only 8 months before and its blows it out of the water I bought it in a retail store as on the wall with approx 100 other TV's it was the best pic for size there!

LED FTW!

ps anyone looking do not underestimate SMART (internet) TV's being able to watch BBC iPlayer or ITV Player on demand shows if you have a good broadband connection would be fantastic on normal free TV if you miss a show and lots are in HD now too on those services. Decide budget and get what you can. Sod fancy makes go for best picture then spec IMHO.

..... I was in a clearance sale.......

Were you really ?

How much did you go for...? :blush:

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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....................you really don't understand technology do you. :no:

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....................you really don't understand technology do you. :no:

Yes, i do quite well actually.

It isn't different tech, it is different means of lighting a LCD screen as has been explained a million times on here and everywhere else on the internet.

An 'LED' still has the same LCD screen as it would have done 'pre' LED.

Yes, i do quite well actually.

It isn't different tech, it is different means of lighting a LCD screen as has been explained a million times on here and everywhere else on the internet.

An 'LED' still has the same LCD screen as it would have done 'pre' LED.

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@Macdemon

Do you not remember when all the hype of the so called "LED" TV's started with a lot of emphasis on Full LED backlit and Edge? Full being rows of LED's across the rear of the LCD panel and edge (the super thinner cheaper type) being positioned around the frame?

The video below is 3 years old

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....................you really don't understand technology do you. :no:

is this about to be upgraded to an epic fail..?

is this about to be upgraded to an epic fail..?

With an additional face palm?

Were you really ?

How much did you go for...? :blush:

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I bought a Sony 32" LCD Bravia for the wife in December from Richer sounds as Sony were doing a £50 cash back at the time. It's a good TV with HD on freeview and with a dongle you can run bbc iplayer etc. I liked it so much I bought a 40" Sony LED for the main lounge. Richer Sounds were out of stock on this model, but House of Frasier had the same model at the same price, so I bought it there. I couldn't find this model cheaper anywhere on the web!

Richer sounds have a clearance section on their website, so it's worth a look as their price are usually good.

If you're thinking of getting a new stand they can be pretty pricey, and avoid black glass, they're an absolute :swear: magnet for dust.

Always go for black. That way, if the stand is clean, so is the house :giggle:

Oh, on topic, we went for an LG 55" LED/LCD/Cathode Ray/Filtered/Smart/3D with thingymajiggery !

I'm guessing you're allergic to dust, or a duster

If I were buying a new TV, Costco would get my money they have some belters!

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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....................you really don't understand technology do you. :no:

You know, I think you've just presented yourself with the idiot of the week award.

LED TV is not running LED's it's LED's doing the job of a back light instead of a cold cathode.

I've already said this, as have others but you're sticking to the I'm right path.

Just for you I went and googled this:

http://www.which.co....evision/led-tv/

LED televisions are basically LCD TVs with one crucial difference – the handful of traditional back light lamps that illuminate the screen have been replaced by hundreds of smaller LEDs.

To give an LED TV its full name is more of a mouthful: LED-lit LCD. LED TVs still employ standard LCD TV technology; light from behind the screen is shone through the television screen's matrix of tiny coloured liquid crystal cells. Signals control each cell, letting varying amounts of colour through, and a picture is built up.

Perhaps you'd like to stop this here and post an apology to the poster you claimed knew nothing about tech?

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Yes, i do quite well actually.

It isn't different tech, it is different means of lighting a LCD screen as has been explained a million times on here and everywhere else on the internet.

An 'LED' still has the same LCD screen as it would have done 'pre' LED.

I agree, you do know about technology.

He single handedly fixed my cream crackered laptop and it's running sweeeeeeet ! :sun:

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Are you internet connected or would I have to take my chances with making a dongle work :o

LCD - This uses an LCD panel for the pixels and uses CCFL (cold cathode fluorescent lamp) for backlighting

LED - This should be called LED-LCD or something similar as it uses an LCD panel for the pixels and LED for backlighting. The are two types. Edge lit which is similar to CCFL and local dimming. The latter does produce better pictures as the backlighting is dynamically controlled to give the best results for the image displayed.

My experience is that it's important to differentiate between LED backlit and LED sidelit. The vast majority of LED TVs are side lit, those are the really thin ones. I find the quality runs in this order (best to worst):

1) LED backlit

2) CCFL backlit (i.e. a boggo LCD TV. Basically some glorified fluorescent tubes which shine through the LCD)

3) LED sidelit

Reason being is the LED sidelit ones seem to suffer from uneven lighting more than other types, and the contrast is no better than a cheaper regular LCD TVs (CCFL type). So unless you don't mind paying extra for a slightly worse picture and thinner telly, no reason to pick 3 over 2. Of course, the picture quality is subjective, but I think this sums it up nicely:

LEDs are very crisp, but i find watching TV in the led can be "to bright" at times... LCD are alot warmer and a good all rounder for gaming, TV and film.

LED backlit is probably the best at the moment, as rwbaldwin said they can dim localised areas of the screen for a much better contrast ratio and less light leakage. Downside is they still cost an absolute packet versus the other two types.

All 3 types mentioned so far use an LCD (as has been discussed by other posters), and as such will suffer from a degree of blur during high speed action and also restrictions on viewing angle, but these are a hell of a lot less than they use to be. I don't consider AMOLED/OLED mature enough yet for use on a reasonably sized screen (32" +)

That leaves the final current technology, Plasma, which is sort of a mixed bag affair. Produces excellent contrast and colours, and also dosen't blur with high speed action. Downside is they're bloody heavy, they gobble electricity (hence run hot too and some need fans) and they have a glass screen so you get glare akin to the CRT-box tellies of old. Oh and you can get screen burn-in as well. Of course there are ways around most of these problems, but it means forking out a fortune for a top-spec plasma. Overall image quality is probably better than LCD based screens, but the gap is nothing like it used to be and no longer worth the compromises unless you are buying 50"+.

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Guys and gals, after much deliberation and looking at hundreds of TVs in different shops/websites etc, I've never actually bought a new one and probably spent my budget on something else less useful. However, we are now moving house and will definately require a larger TV so am back in the market.

Had a quick look round the internet and found a few TVs which suit my budget:

The last one is Plasma - is this better than LED? Read somewhere that Plasma is better in dark conditions?

I'd avoid the plasma as its only HD Ready, which means 720p so not full HD.

Personally i'd got for the Sony for the extra 2". But then the Samsung does HD freeview where as the Sony only does SD freeview.. guess that depends if you have Sky or Virgin with HD?

I'd probably look at spending another £100 and get one of last years models or a good discount on a current model, which has Freeview HD, 1080p and possibly freesat HD if you're in an area with poor reception.

Personally I'm a fan of the panasonic screens, but there are others out there who make a good TV, Sony and Samsung being two of them.

It all depends on how much you really care and how much it's just a TV.

Also, yes plasma has better blacks, but you have to be a bit more careful with reflection (think of the old CRT reflecting sunlight on the glass front).

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