Got my new monte coming next week black magic and ive heard that you should always wash and wax a brand new car as its not protected from factory so ive brought these products and plan to do the order below but im completly new to detailing..

Meguiars Ultimate Wash & Wax With Meguiars Super Thick Microfibre Wash Mitt Then Dry With Meguiars Micro Fibre

Quick Clean Up With Meguiars Ultimate Quik Detailer

Meguiars Ultimate Polish With Soft Foam Applicator Pad

Meguiars Ultimate Wax With Soft Foam Applicator Pads

I want a nice shiney finish as everyone does and the car to be better protected than factory supplied but please correct me if im wrong as like I say im completly new but have all these products sitting here atm and I wasnt sure about polishing ...

Before you polish and wax your car, make sure you clay it, this will remove stuff that's difficult to see. There are plenty around, but maguires do a kit, if you wanted to stick with the brand you've got. Preparation is the key. Enjoy!

I would use some IronX on it prior to claying to remove inevitable steel particles from the transportation

What you've got sounds good. My car came from the dealers covered in swirl marks because the majority of them don't know how to clean a car properly.

All my Skodas were delivered in swirl marks, my first job was claying, polishing and protecting

And then car needs proper wash, if you have a place and time get pressure washer, foam lance, drying towels and shampoo, snow foam etc. You can also follow detailingworld forum It is another case of sickness

That's a great forum, you will get loads of tips and advice. Also in the showroom section, search fabia vrs and you'll find my new car detail. Also think there are some other members on there. Good luck, but be careful, once you're into detailing your car its hard to stop!

As ab vrs says better off looking on detailing site it good but adictive site. My car detail on it to.

Some very good advice here by the guys. When I took delivery of mine 4 years ago, I had the dealer engage his professionals to do the work. In fact, I paid them to get a Supagard professional in to do the car inside and out with the Supagard products. I negotiated a very good deal and it cost me peanuts and I got the Supagard kit thrown in too. I've never regreted that. The car was delivered (as it should be) in perfect condition, no swirl marks or anything anywhere on or in the car that wasn't right. It was perfection. The car stays very clean all the time and it's paid off on a number of occassions too with the extra protection doing it's job. Not saying Supagard is the best thing but it's worked for me. There are even better lifetime coatings now, but Meguiars is a brilliant product too and I use it on my motorcycles.

PS. Supagard didn't give the car any protection against a huge ladder being blown onto my car from a great height a couple of years ago. The resulting damage was massive, big dents and bare metal exposed. Supagard is really naff at giving protection against that!!! All professionally fixed though and Supagard reapplied by my Skoda dealers bodyshop. But here's the thing. During the time the car was in the oven having the new paint baked, the plastic wrapping they do the car up in came to rest on the roof of the car in one place. This caused 'sweating' which marks the paint. Normally this can mean a respray of the affected area or at the very least new clear coat being applied. Thanks to Supagard, this was unnecessary as claying the area removed the marks which would normally have gone right through the clearcoat and into the underlying paint making it very difficult or impossible to remove the marks. It was in fact only the Supagard that was really marked and not the clearcoat. If it had been a normal polish, however good, it would have almost certainly have meant a respray of the roof the bodyshop told me. Phew!

Edited 15 May, 201214 yr by Estate Man

Thanks for replys guys you always get a good reaction on here when you need advice, I was offerd the supergard think it was £375 or something like that but after reading reviews many people said for that kind of money its not worth it. Im going to buy some clay on its own and use it with the quick detailer spray I already have and give it a go before washing and waxing.

Wash you car before claying. Then polish. Seal and or wax

My latest "protection enhancement" detail

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/232331-bilt-hamber-festival-for-fabia-tsi-dsg/

Thanks for replys guys you always get a good reaction on here when you need advice, I was offerd the supergard think it was £375 or something like that but after reading reviews many people said for that kind of money its not worth it. Im going to buy some clay on its own and use it with the quick detailer spray I already have and give it a go before washing and waxing.

Yeah...£375 for Supagard is way too much as there are better products out there now. 4 years ago I paid just £150 for the full treatment inside and out and I got a full maintenance kit thrown in too, normal retail at the time was £45 for the kit which is very comprehensive with wheel cleaner/protector, bird poop remover, more Supagard polish, glass cleaner, tyre protector etc etc. I watched the guy prepare the car for the treatment but didn't stay for the application. Wow, did he sweat and he did a really good job, he was a commited individual who cared about what he was doing. Glad I didn't do it. Meguiars is the best polish treatment in my opinion and as I said I use it on my motorcycles when I take them to shows. You'll love the finish you get on your car with it. Post some pics when you've done it. We love to see...

PS. You may know this...but if you are not using an electric buffer/polisher, you may want to hand apply your polish like many professionals do to high grade car finishes. To help avoid swirl marks apply the polish in straight lines, especially if claying by hand, up and down on the panels instead of how the instructions on the bottles tell you, in a circular motion. Circlular motion can promote swirl marks. My nephew has his own bodyshop and this is how they do it especially when claying or using any cutting compounds, but also when applying polish. I've always done this too and my car and motorcycles never ever have suffered swirl marks. But each to his own I guess...

Edited 15 May, 201214 yr by Estate Man

Just to clear up things. Supaguard etc and these lifetime stuff are a waste of money, big time. The kits cost about £12.

It offers lifetime protection if you stick to the rules which include waxing it once a month, and washing every week (poss 2, can't remember). You also need to get the car inspected every year to keep the 'warranty'. What does it actually give you?

Nothing in the world keeps a car protected for any long length of time. One wash with detergent removes wax for example, thats it's job. Bird crap is acidic for the most part, do you think it protects against that down the line? Now ask yourself what would happen to the look/protection etc of the car if you used ANY product on it? Wax a car once a month with Aldi's special car wax and of course it'll be protected. It's people that pay this and think that their car is going to be supaclean for years to come that makes me cringe!

Put these products in the same category as the shoe whiteners JJB try and flog with every pair of trainers! Some dealers make more on the Supaguard than the individual car sale. Trust me, I use to charge £300+ to detail peoples cars.

Thanks for replys guys you always get a good reaction on here when you need advice, I was offerd the supergard think it was £375 or something like that but after reading reviews many people said for that kind of money its not worth it. Im going to buy some clay on its own and use it with the quick detailer spray I already have and give it a go before washing and waxing.

....and IronX..You will be amazed at the amount of iron particles in the paint

Just to clear up things. Supaguard etc and these lifetime stuff are a waste of money, big time. The kits cost about £12.

It offers lifetime protection if you stick to the rules which include waxing it once a month, and washing every week (poss 2, can't remember). You also need to get the car inspected every year to keep the 'warranty'. What does it actually give you?

Nothing in the world keeps a car protected for any long length of time. One wash with detergent removes wax for example, thats it's job. Bird crap is acidic for the most part, do you think it protects against that down the line? Now ask yourself what would happen to the look/protection etc of the car if you used ANY product on it? Wax a car once a month with Aldi's special car wax and of course it'll be protected. It's people that pay this and think that their car is going to be supaclean for years to come that makes me cringe!

Put these products in the same category as the shoe whiteners JJB try and flog with every pair of trainers! Some dealers make more on the Supaguard than the individual car sale. Trust me, I use to charge £300+ to detail peoples cars.

Oh dear, you are very misinformed! I can only speak for Supagard, but it is not a lifetime protection - but is warranted for 3 years when professionally applied. It then need to be re-applied to maintain full protection. You should then know it's not a wax but a paint sealant which doesn't wash off at all easily. You can easily test this yourself. I have and it doesn't even 'T' cut off easily, it's quite a task to remove it. It does not require a yearly check...and how could they anyway? It does not cost £12 per kit. Retail is/was £45. I can speak from experience as a lazy *******. I don't clean my car very often, maybe just 3-4 time per year. The car comes up like new everytime and the water always beads. It has no swirl marks and bird poo doesn't mark the paint...although if I see some on there I normally take a moment to give it a sqirt of anti-poo spray and wipe it carefully off. Running your finger over the paintwork it feels as though it's just been waxed all the time. Dirt just falls off, it's so easy to clean. At 3 years I re-applied the Supagard as I had the kit still. It is an excellent product but there are better ones out there now.

So just to clear things up...Supagard is not a waste of money and is highly respected in the trade, of which I am now still a part of.

I agree Super Guard or any of there products are a rip off ..cost to the dealer for the product around £15 My son worked for a Skoda Audi dealer years ago and bought a kit ,we did 3 cars with it and still had some left .I have an other kit but do not use it .Best with Meguires or similair Swissvax the best but very exspensive .When claying it is not esential to use the detailer , soapy water works just the same remember to keep the clay bar moist all the time and continuesly fold it .easy to do would take no more that a hour to do a car

Brian

Kitchens, we are obviously talking about different kits here. The £45 retail kit (which is a maintenance kit) doesn't even contain enough Supagard to do one car let alone three. But mine was done 4 years ago so the kits may have changed or you are talking about the trade kit. But even then, even if the kit costs £15 trade to you, that doesn't mean it's a rip off to customers who pay much more. It's a good product. My car took nearly two and a quarter hours to do inside and out and the cost included the full maintenance kit and the labour to do the job. The guy who was a professional Supagard agent has to run his van and live too. So not bad. If I paid retail tomorrow to replace everything in the kit it would cost nearly £60 on the net from Supagard, but slightly less on Ebay. Being in the trade I can buy virtually anything at trade price for cars too but I didn't bother in that instance. I was happy to be a customer as the price I was changed was pretty good.

Give me your car and I'll show you the swirls. All it'll do is mask them at best.

My point is it Isn't bad but for what they charge you can get a proper full detail done for the same price using proper stuff.

Given how much you paid and what you say it costs how much per your have the paid someone to apply it? It should take hours to prep and do a car properly. Anyone getting paid that wouldn't do it properly.

Spend the dough on getting it done right by a pro, not someone who does 20 cars a week.

ardandy, I mean no disrespect but you are a bit out of date with what's going on in the trade now.

My car was off loaded into the dealership, it was PDI'd, which I watched through the observation window, then given to the Supagard guy who spent an enormous time decontaminating the paintwork using a solution to remove wax & metal particules and other debris from the transporting process, then manually preparing the paint for the first treatment (it had two coats of Supagard). He did all the right things. The paint was then factory fresh, no swirls. Again, I watched this process which took around 1.5hrs. Whilst this was going on, the inside of the car was being prepared for treatment by his colleague (who later helped with the outside supagard process). I then disappeared for lunch and went back to inspect the car and collect. The polishing process is the least time consuming bit, but the whole process still took around 2hrs 15 mins, which on a brand new car is just about right for a fine detailing with two guys doing it, which also included nice shiny tyres. On a used car it would take longer to reach a similar standard by some way. Incidentally, Supagard will mask swirl marks but mine has never had any to mask. It's very good at preventing them though. It's the only car I've owned that hasn't picked up scratches or swirls. Although I don't clean it often, I'm careful when I do. The local car valeting workshop at the end of my road quoted me £285 or £295 (can't quite remember the exact figure) for the same Supagard process but couldn't offer the same 3 year warranty for the paint or the interior fabrics. He used at the time only Supagard or Meguiars as final coatings. I think he uses 'Lifeshine' or something similar now and a concoction of cheap trade rubbish for people who don't want to pay any money.

But I'm sure Elliot will be pleased with his shiny new motor whatever he uses.

It's this 3 year warranty which in my mind means nothing. What can you claim against?

A car up to 3 years old will not rust, fade or do anything that wouldn't come under the manufacturers warranty. It can't possibly protect against physical damage of course and swirls will appear if you treat the car like crap and wash it badly etc.

What does it cover that anyone could possibly protect against?

Don't waste you're money.

Invest in 2 buckets (wash and rinse), a good wash mitt, some decent microfibres (although the cheap ones are actually quite good these days), decent wax and you've won half the battle.

It's when you get addicted and start spending hundreds on dual action polishers, etc, etc...not that I did that at all *roll eyes*

Have a look at the detailing section for some more erm, detailed, information.

And don't buy supagaurd.

I would agree there may be better products out there now than Supagard, but speaking from experience it is a very good product. At the time when I bought my current new car I was recovering from a very seriouis illness and never really envisaged I would be able to wash a car again. Thankfully, that's changed and I'm virtually fully recovered over the last 3 years, but I still don't fancy washing the car much!! As I said in an earlier post, I paid just £150 for my complete package for an 'inside and out' professional job by the Supagard 'guy'. It was negotiated down from £275 as part of my new car deal and included the maintenance kit too. The product protects against airborn contaminate damage to paintwork, ultravoilet etc and it helps prevent swirl marks. It does work. The coating is guaranteed for 3years and even after that it protects. I've suffered paintwork damage on previous cars due to airborn contamination (creosote which a neighbour had sprayed on to a fence nearby) which resulted in a respray needed on my last car. So for me it seemed a good idea. So far, at 4 years old it's proved it worth (see previous posts above). But it's on the inside of the car that it's really worth the money too. Supagard will pay for repair, cleaning or replacement of interior fabrics or seats if their product fails to protect. I've been there too on that fated previous car where I had to fork out a small fortune for a new seat due to damage caused by spillage (kids eh!). So it's horses for courses, and what you think is worthwhile or not. I got a good deal and it works..... but others may not think it worthwhile for them.

PS. Lifeshine seems even better according to my nephew who has his own bodyshop. He took it onboard some time ago.

If youre lazy, disabled or just dont give a toss..Get some

Otherwise..Total waste of money..and theyve seen you coming!!!

Just hope the £80 ive spent on all these products is worth it!

Ive got the iron x now and seems like with this I can skip the claying process on the car when its new so hopefully good results!

Don't skip the clay. It's inmcredible what it will remove