Hi

I made contact with a dealer in the Midlands today and enquired about an SE or SE+ diesel Yeti with a view to trading in my Octavia vRS.

They had an ex demo SE up for £15995 that had recently sold but the sales chap said he could do a brand new diesel Urban for £16500. Didn't seem bad at all.

Anyone bought an Urban yet and at what kind of money?

Regards

Chubbs

Hi

A se urban 110 hp diesel. At my local garage is costing £18300. So I would say not a bad deal.

Sound like a good deal, i love mine its a great motor cost me £18300 and got a good trade in for my old passat estate but i got to pick the colour and interior i wanted, think the dealers bought up all 750 of them and chose the spec they wanted. i think it looks great in black or white but a bit drab in the silver or grey !

Delivery this week of black Urban 2.0 deisel. OTR £18300, but am paying £16750 after loads of haggling. Dealer offered poor trade in on XTrail, but you can't have it at both ends.

Did not do trade in and sold Xtrail in Autotrader for £1750 more than trade in offer, so cost to change was lower.

I mention this as I get very annoyed with the cat and mouse game the dealers play.

You are very very lucky to get £1550 of an unregistered Urban (especially as only 750 produced and with £2500 of extras included for nothing). I just took delivery of my Urban (Diesel) and could only "chip" the dealer £300 (no p/ex as well). I was lucky to get a white one (my choice) that was on route as a dealer order, so only had to wait 10 days. Mind you I only paid £15000 as purchased as VAT exempt (disabled). Still, maybe I should try harder next time!

I mention this as I get very annoyed with the cat and mouse game the dealers play.

Save your blood pressure - and just remember that they have a business to run, and each salesman will have a mortgage, a family, mouths to feed, and financial hassles like every single one of us. Chill, yeah?

Save your blood pressure - and just remember that they have a business to run, and each salesman will have a mortgage, a family, mouths to feed, and financial hassles like every single one of us. Chill, yeah?

Partially true, I want the relationship with a dealer, but also want a good price, the guy that sold me mine was quite new, a really nice chap(dare i say unlike a car salesman...), i broke him down over price, but each reduction meant him going to the boss-days of phone negotiation and eventually the price was agreed, whilst I waited to decide on autoglym/gap, when I went in to sign the papers some time later, I had researched these two products and got much better prices elsewhere, the upset in his eyes... It turned out he was relying on this for commission!

But he was still very nice, giving me advice at hand over(including this site).

Moral is, i wanted personal service and I got it, but after receiving my 3 day satisfaction check, I never got a 3 week or 3 month one and when I went in to enquire about accessories at a later date, I asked after him, and know one had a clue who I was talking about, i eventually found out that he left shortly after my sale, to work at a local supermarket! Now I have to 'try' and deal with useless 'typical' car dealership staff from there, not much customer service going on, and I shall probably get the car serviced at a further distant dealership. The 'quality' supermarkets gain is that skoda dealerships and customers loss, if I ever dare to have a dealership, that man shall be head hunted for my staff!!!

I suspect he left because he didn't make the company money. If you do dare to have a dealership you will discover that making money is a necessary part of the business model.

My own view is that whenever I buy something I am deciding who gets my money and whether or not I wish to contribute to their business.

I expect I could pay less by doing more research and spending more of my time to save a bit of money.

Save your blood pressure - and just remember that they have a business to run, and each salesman will have a mortgage, a family, mouths to feed, and financial hassles like every single one of us. Chill, yeah?

So what are you saying, George...just pay up and look big?.... give him what he wants with no negotiation?

No-one's denying they have the mortgage, family etc...but so do most of the people buying - so are you asking them to say "OK, you want full retail coz you've got a family - here you are. I'll forego any discount, nice to have met you?"

With respect, you're a professional man...you run a Yeti and you have a BMW convertible as well as a fun car - maybe others have a desire to own,say, a Yeti, but struggles to afford it and for them to pay £2000 less for it makes the difference between having it or not having it? It's easy to say "Chill Yeah" when you have the money to say that....maybe not so easy if you're almost able to afford what you want but need the discount to actually buy it?

I asked a couple of dealers how much they wanted for the car I bought. One gave me a few pounds off list, another gave me £2000 off list. Either way my local dealer still services it - and the dealer that sold it to me didn't have to sell it to me - I wasn't holding a gun to his head...and I still correspond with him and have a good relationship with both him - as well as my local dealer. And I'm the one with an extra £2k in my bin and, to be honest, if I'd paid full retail I don't suppose I'd be getting bunches of flowers and letters of warm thanks from the salesman who sold it to me at list price. When that same dealer went to buy his TV, bed, carpet, house etc. did he then say to the respective salesman - "I'd like to pay full retail with no discount as you've got mouths to feed?...I doubt it.

Edited 5 June, 201214 yr by oldstan

So what are you saying, George...just pay up and look big?.... give him what he wants with no negotiation?

No-one's denying they have the mortgage, family etc...but so do most of the people buying - so are you asking them to say "OK, you want full retail coz you've got a family - here you are. I'll forego any discount, nice to have met you?"

With respect, you're a professional man...you run a Yeti and you have a BMW convertible as well as a fun car - maybe others have a desire to own,say, a Yeti, but struggles to afford it and for them to pay £2000 less for it makes the difference between having it or not having it? It's easy to say "Chill Yeah" when you have the money to say that....maybe not so easy if you're almost able to afford what you want but need the discount to actually buy it?

I asked a couple of dealers how much they wanted for the car I bought. One gave me a few pounds off list, another gave me £2000 off list. Either way my local dealer still services it - and the dealer that sold it to me didn't have to sell it to me - I wasn't holding a gun to his head...and I still correspond with him and have a good relationship with both him - as well as my local dealer. And I'm the one with an extra £2k in my bin and, to be honest, if I'd paid full retail I don't suppose I'd be getting bunches of flowers and letters of warm thanks from the salesman who sold it to me at list price. When that same dealer went to buy his TV, bed, carpet, house etc. did he then say to the respective salesman - "I'd like to pay full retail with no discount as you've got mouths to feed?...I doubt it.

Oh Stan - you've so disappointed me here!!!

What I was referring to was the comment about being "very annoyed". Obviously part of buying a car is the negotiation. Buying a car is an inexact science at the best of times, and without doubt one can choose how one goes about it - and that is defined by the state of ones finances, just as the dealer is confined in his generosity by HIS finances.

I was simply pointing out that the "cat and mouse" game is a necessity and isn't done just to "annoy" people.

Oh - and Oldstan - please don't fall into the trap of making judgements about what you "think" you know about the individual circumstances of contributors, yes? No?

Edit* {I think we've corresponded previously - and that you know my back story, too? Am I right?} *Edit.

Edited 5 June, 201214 yr by Freshacre

Oh Stan - you've so disappointed me here!!!

What I was referring to was the comment about being "very annoyed". Obviously part of buying a car is the negotiation. Buying a car is an inexact science at the best of times, and without doubt one can choose how one goes about it - and that is defined by the state of ones finances, just as the dealer is confined in his generosity by HIS finances.

I was simply pointing out that the "cat and mouse" game is a necessity and isn't done just to "annoy" people.

Oh - and Oldstan - please don't fall into the trap of making judgements about what you "think" you know about the individual circumstances of contributors, yes? No?

Edit* {I think we've corresponded previously - and that you know my back story, too? Am I right?} *Edit.

Hello George [ yes we have..... and I've continued to enjoy your tales from the farmyard ever since .... :-) ]

Trouble is, as we all know - sometimes to our cost, we can't speak and be understood on t'internet as easily and with the same nuances and subtleties as we would in the street/pub/church/counsellor's easy chair (delete as appropriate). So our purposes were temporarily crossed here.

Re. "I mention this as I get very annoyed with the cat and mouse game the dealers play." If this is the blue touchpaper 'what got lit' ... I guess I can see that what he meant has the ability to be construed differently? I saw the sentence and immediately it reminded me of the dreadful cat and mouse games that Double Glazing salesmen play (and it DOES seem like a game to me) where they start at £20k knowing full well they'll do the deal for .....whatever - £10k - £12k. And that does actually annoy me when I know that occasionally the salesman will come across a little old lady who will pay the first price and the salesman goes away with a big grin on his face and goes straight home having earned a bit of a bonus that night.

So that might be where we went awry initially. And I may well have gone on.... erroneously and maybe too simplistically, to refer to different individuals ability to afford things relative to another individuals ability to do the same and it did come across - to me - at the time - that you seemed to be saying ...it's only money - Chill out and don't worry about it and just buy the thing. Like I say, emails and texts and posts on forums can all mean to say one thing but come across as saying something any of us never meant to say and in face to face conversation the raising of an eyebrow or a particular inflection would say a thousand words and we would understand exactly what we meant. I must be very guilty (in fact I know I am) of saying "the wrong thing" in cyberspace on lots of occasions and so if either of us haven't come across with the message we meant to then I'm quite sure it will be dismissed in a mere moment in time and that will be that.

Back to the dunghill and stories of infestations of Drosophila Melanogaster around your rotten fruit.

...and then there's the dealer's 'Lifeshine' scam, check the prices on EBay and you'll see a price closer to its real value

Haggle and then haggle some more!

Remember if part exchanging, the only figure that's important is 'the price to change' All other values are meaningless ;-)

OldStan - yeah - we're still on the same hymn sheet! LOL.

OldStan - yeah - we're still on the same hymn sheet! LOL.

The strife is o'er, the battle done

The victory of life is done

Vulpius 1560-1615

Translation: Francis Pott 1832-1909

Thought the rutting season was toward the back end of the year

Apologies I'll get the proverbial coat,

TP