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Did have a search for anti rise, but can't find anything, so Not sure if this this the right term... whats the best way to deal with the front end becoming light under hard acceleration? Can you fit any anti rise type mods? Will lowering have any affect?

I've fitted coilovers and its made a huge difference to traction. I dropped the front 40mm and the back 10mm less to keep the weight transferred to the front. I've set the rear shocks quite hard aswell which also stops the front from lifting but this does make the back twitchy in the wet

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If its a Hatchback, have you considered removing the weight from the bar at rear passengers side behind the bumper?

You could always give it a try!

Works well for me, but i have coilovers as well.

http://www.briskoda....tsi-hatch-guide

george

Yeah it's a hatch. Hmm, don't like the idea of the back getting skittish!.

Has anyone on eibachs noticed any improvement for this problem?

Obviously worth changing the suspension to your needs, be that with improved springs, or springs and dampers or coilovers, but matched to what you are doing with your car, or passenger/load carrying needs.

Mine is not skittish at the rear,

but it is not lowered on the coils over the standard spring height & set for the weight distribution it has,

and on 215/40/17 tyres.

Getting used on rough pot holed road surfaces and not for smooth dual carriageways or on smooth track etc

I know you say its going light, & i understand that feeling,

but then for certain turn in and types of road and cornering that suits some,

ie,

into a sharp turn, but everyone likes different ind i take it you mean going light off the line and under straight hard acceleration.

What tyres are you using?

(Even without lift and light at the front you will get spin on the tyres)

Are you finding it a problem when alone in the car as well as with rear passengers or stuff in the boot.

& is it diving on you under braking and into down hill tight turns?

george

Edited by sk4gw

What your thinking of is the anti lift kits, which is essentially a different console bush that moves adds static castor to your car. I have the full set of poly bushes being installed on my car this week including the anti lift rear control arm bush. I think vRSAlex is starting it tomorrow.

lifting and diving of the car is best solved with stiffer suspension IMO. Engine mounts are also helpful with traction and will also limit lift at the front to a certain degree a the engine wont rock so much.

Removing the rear weights does not make the car skittish at all. I have mine out and at a soaking wet mallory park trackday i had absolutely no issues flying around there all day.

AND more sticky tyres..... they will make a difference ;)

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What your thinking of is the anti lift kits, which is essentially a different console bush that moves adds static castor to your car. I have the full set of poly bushes being installed on my car this week including the anti lift rear control arm bush. I think vRSAlex is starting it tomorrow.

lifting and diving of the car is best solved with stiffer suspension IMO. Engine mounts are also helpful with traction and will also limit lift at the front to a certain degree a the engine wont rock so much.

Removing the rear weights does not make the car skittish at all. I have mine out and at a soaking wet mallory park trackday i had absolutely no issues flying around there all day.

Ahh, yes thats what I meant.

I'll see how it is on Eibachs soon (when I've got more money!)

Interestingly though, I put my tyre pressures up .1 bar front and rear yesterday after the comments on the tyre pressure thread and as an experiment for handling and MPG. I was on 2.3/2.2, now on 2.4/2.3 and the lift sensation seems to have halved :think:

out of interest I'm on 2.5 bar all round, try that ;)

I use 2.5 bar as well, although that gets dropped to a cold 2.2 bar all round for trackdays otherwise they end up over inflated.

Im on 2.5 bar as well and im on eibach springs :) the ride is nice and the handling is good, worth doing unless you've got the money for coilovers...

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Im on 2.5 bar as well and im on eibach springs :) the ride is nice and the handling is good, worth doing unless you've got the money for coilovers...

Cool, do you get any of the light steering sensation?

Think I will be putting them up to 2.5 when I've next got the chance. On new current setting I've easily got 40MPG on my way to/from work (dual carriageways), whereas before I'd just about get 36

Not really no... mines always been sharp and responsive I thought

me niether...

No mine has been fine. Lot sharper than the Mk1

To the OP....this is what you mean......

from my post here...

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/200949-upgrade-the-bushes/

to the manufacturers web page

http://www.superpro.eu.com/catalogue/74/skoda-fabia-mkii-2006-_to-current/#SPF3273K

SPF3273K List Price £83.97 plus VAT Front Control Arm, Rear Bush Kit With Anti Lift

As per the SPF3271K this improved design bush will out last OEM bushes significantly however, these bushes have been designed with an offset mounting. This allows for a greater caster angle to be achieved cutting down on wheel hop and spin.

Comes with SuperPro's unrivalled 3 Year, 36,000 Mile Warranty.

This bush kit is also available in car sets KIT5229ADJK.

B)

Thats it. I have the kit installed on my car

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To the OP....this is what you mean......

from my post here...

http://www.briskoda....ade-the-bushes/

to the manufacturers web page

http://www.superpro....rrent/#SPF3273K

SPF3273K List Price £83.97 plus VAT Front Control Arm, Rear Bush Kit With Anti Lift

As per the SPF3271K this improved design bush will out last OEM bushes significantly however, these bushes have been designed with an offset mounting. This allows for a greater caster angle to be achieved cutting down on wheel hop and spin.

Comes with SuperPro's unrivalled 3 Year, 36,000 Mile Warranty.

This bush kit is also available in car sets KIT5229ADJK.

B)

Ahhhh yes, that exactly what I was thinking of! Cheers!

Right, next mod planned already as soon as I get Eibachs :p

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Bump - thought this could be worth a revisit for those looking to get there fabia handling sharpened up?

 

I know it's cold, wet and windy out there at the moment but I'm struggling to get a feel for front end of my new vrs after 800 miles and though I love it much more in many ways than my mk1, I'm really missing the front end feeling I had with the mk1. Strangely I didn't sense this to be so bad when I test drove one before committing to buy the mk2??  :wonder:

 

So when weather is better I have Eibach spring and damper kit on my list of to do's and now some control arm bushes (all stuff I did on mk1 as well) has anyone else fitted the second generation control arm bushes on there later mk2 vrs and will these mods sort it out for sure?!

Before someone askes (George) I'm running 2.5bar/36psi all round on the continentals the car came with.

 

If I cant scrub the writing on the side wall of the front tyres when the weather gets warmer then my friends will think I've turned soft :no:

 

Wrighty

Edited by wrightcnc2009

How about trying the tyres at 2.2 bar and see the difference, unless you happen to be carrying a heavy load.

You can always pump them back up if it does not feel better.

 

& for a quick and simple try, once the tyre pressures are lower,

remove the 19 kg spare from the boot and go try and see if the front end feels any better, even just a little bit.

If it does, replace the Spare wheel,

& remove the Weights off the rear crash bar.

 

These are free modifications easily changed back, 5 minutes for the tyres and 50 minutes for the weights.

 

Another free Mod,

You can change the Assistance on the Steering to give less, it does not improve grip though.

just needs put on Vagcom.

I run 2.5 bar normally, and remember, most "summer conti's say "dont use below 0C" in the data ;) 

 

I dont think the control arm bushes fail like they do in the mark I's due to different design, but a polybush kit will help (this is on my list of things to do!)

 

a RARB will make the biggest difference on the front end ;)

I dont know what it is about coilovers, but i think they have to be set up properly or something?

My mates got a civic on coilovers, i was following him over cat and fiddle in the wet, i didnt even realise he was trying, but he said his back end was all over the place.

My fabia se could have gone 50% faster again. And that shouldnt happen haha.

What has coilovers to do with the thread revival?

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Whilst this has been bumped, and as the OP might be worth me reporting back....the eibachs made a huge difference on this.  It still goes a little bit light on hard acceleration, but no way near as much. 

 

If it was going on track days, I'd probably fit different bushes, but for road use the eibachs resolved this for me.  

Edited by Gumby

How about trying the tyres at 2.2 bar and see the difference, unless you happen to be carrying a heavy load.

You can always pump them back up if it does not feel better.

& for a quick and simple try, once the tyre pressures are lower,

remove the 19 kg spare from the boot and go try and see if the front end feels any better, even just a little bit.

If it does, replace the Spare wheel,

& remove the Weights off the rear crash bar.

These are free modifications easily changed back, 5 minutes for the tyres and 50 minutes for the weights.

Another free Mod,

You can change the Assistance on the Steering to give less, it does not improve grip though.

just needs put on Vagcom.

Going to have a play tomorrow with pressures and the wheel out etc.. Hope it helps give some feeling back to the front to tie me over until the weather gets better and the eibach kit goes on.

Edited by wrightcnc2009

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