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What do you guys have on your Superb.

I've got Accelera Alphas on all round atm, but I'm not happy with them. They're okay in the wet, but I like confidence in my tyres.

Have good experience of Falken FK452s and ZE912s in the wet, as well as Toyo Proxes T1R.

But they were on much lighter cars.

And recommendations for good tyres in the wet?

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrical 2 or Kumho KU39 for a cheaper purchase price, however, the Goodyears will cost less/mile for the duration of its life. .

I haven't got enough of a view to comment on this one yet, plus I've currently got a mishmash on - Continentals rear, budgets front, but I'll need a pair in the not too distant future.

+1 For the Eagle F1's - It'll either be those or Michelin SP3's for me. Although my last B5 Passat had Dunlops on and they were good all-rounders.

Gaz

Stay away from ku39s, they got down to the wear indicators in under 6 months on my Octy and were worse in the wet than the 452s. Had the 452s for over 6 months now and there's loads of thread left.

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Continental WinterContact TS 850 XL

It is worth noting that there are now EU ratings (stickers) for noise, fuel consumption and resistance to aquaplaning. If you go to some online tyre resellers you can see these. Results are rather interesting if you are after a quiet tyre which is very resistant to aquaplaning and uses ittle fuel... I ordered a couple of Goodyear Efficient Grip 205/55 R16 91W AO (as in Audi fit) tyres a week ago, for under £60 each.

I checked the noise and aquaplaning ratings against my perception of the several sets of tyres that I have used in the past 6 years and the results seem to overlap, I plan to use stickers as a guidance from now on, especially for the noise and aquaplaning. Fuel consumption I do not care too much about (I'm driving a Superbarge, anyway :) ), but given choice I'll select more efficient tyre over less efficient one, as long as both aquaplaning and noise are same / better.

Also, I have just looked up Falken FK-452 mentioned in posts #1 and #4, and these are rated as having very poor resistance to aquaplaning ("E" rating in A-E range) . They also happen to be noisy and fuel consuming...

If you are just after aquaplaning resistance, these are the tyres to go for (2nd letter is aquaplaning, A best, E worst):

Michelin ENERGY SAVER 205/55 R16 91V S1, GRNX* Tyre label / efficiency classes: C A 70 dB

Continental PremiumContact 5 205/55 R16 91H Tyre label / efficiency classes: C A 71 dB

Hankook Ventus Prime 2 K115 205/55 R16 91H 4PR Tyre label / efficiency classes: E A 69 dB

Michelin PRIMACY HP 205/55 R16 91V DT1* (NEW THREAD PATTERN ONLY) Tyre label / efficiency classes: E A 70 dB

Pirelli P ZERO Direzionale 205/55 ZR16 91Y N3* Tyre label / efficiency classes: E A 71 dB

Michelin Pilot Sport 3 205/55 R16 91V with rim protection ridge, GRNX* Tyre label / efficiency classes: F A 71 dB

Winter tyres are not rated (yet). In the past years, I've been using Conti Wintercontacts, Nokian WRs (which were also great for all year use in the UK) and Pirelli Wintersports (which are my current winter tyres for Europe). All worked well, though Nokian WR takes ice a lot better than snow, and Wintersports are actually surprisingly good on snow given the purchase price (bought them years ago at a discount).

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I like the Michelin Pilot Sport 3's on mine, feel very good hammering what is a heavy car round dual carriageway roundabouts.

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It is worth noting that there are now EU ratings (stickers) for noise, fuel consumption and resistance to aquaplaning. If you go to some online tyre resellers you can see these. Results are rather interesting if you are after a quiet tyre which is very resistant to aquaplaning and uses ittle fuel... I ordered a couple of Goodyear Efficient Grip 205/55 R16 91W AO (as in Audi fit) tyres a week ago, for under £60 each.

I checked the noise and aquaplaning ratings against my perception of the several sets of tyres that I have used in the past 6 years and the results seem to overlap, I plan to use stickers as a guidance from now on, especially for the noise and aquaplaning. Fuel consumption I do not care too much about (I'm driving a Superbarge, anyway :) ), but given choice I'll select more efficient tyre over less efficient one, as long as both aquaplaning and noise are same / better.

Also, I have just looked up Falken FK-452 mentioned in posts #1 and #4, and these are rated as having very poor resistance to aquaplaning ("E" rating in A-E range) . They also happen to be noisy and fuel consuming...

If you are just after aquaplaning resistance, these are the tyres to go for (2nd letter is aquaplaning, A best, E worst):

Michelin ENERGY SAVER 205/55 R16 91V S1, GRNX* Tyre label / efficiency classes: C A 70 dB

Continental PremiumContact 5 205/55 R16 91H Tyre label / efficiency classes: C A 71 dB

Hankook Ventus Prime 2 K115 205/55 R16 91H 4PR Tyre label / efficiency classes: E A 69 dB

Michelin PRIMACY HP 205/55 R16 91V DT1* (NEW THREAD PATTERN ONLY) Tyre label / efficiency classes: E A 70 dB

Pirelli P ZERO Direzionale 205/55 ZR16 91Y N3* Tyre label / efficiency classes: E A 71 dB

Michelin Pilot Sport 3 205/55 R16 91V with rim protection ridge, GRNX* Tyre label / efficiency classes: F A 71 dB

Winter tyres are not rated (yet). In the past years, I've been using Conti Wintercontacts, Nokian WRs (which were also great for all year use in the UK) and Pirelli Wintersports (which are my current winter tyres for Europe). All worked well, though Nokian WR takes ice a lot better than snow, and Wintersports are actually surprisingly good on snow given the purchase price (bought them years ago at a discount).

My tyres are 225/45/17 so a little more pricey :(

But the goodyears seem to get a lot of good recommendations!

The noise test is an external test so the results may not necessarily mean you are purchasing the best tyres for noise for your passengers.

The wet brake test is nothing to do with aquaplaning and is carried out in a straight line, because of which they provide false results as a Yokohama's dry track tyre is A rated in this test, but it would not be much use on a twisty road.

Yokohama have rated there winter tyres.

Added to all that some manufactures are not been quite so honest with the results

Well, I looked at the ratings of Nokians, Michelins and Pirellis (all summer) that I do know, and the wet braking ratings seem to match my experience with them. Same for noise, Nokians used to be very quiet tyres, I used 3 or 4 full sets for that very reason , but the Z G2s were noisy from day one, and the 73dB confirms that. So until proven wrong, I trust these new EU ratings.

Aquaplaning and lateral stability are still two different things to the wet brake test. The wet, straight braking 50mph to zero test is at least telling you if the tyre compound is useless in the rain (Nokian eNtyre anyone? I tried them, excellent in dry, downright deadly in the wet). Question was about wet road tyres, and with the amount of rain we're getting wet brake test rating is what good tyres are about. Try braking on motorway in heavy rain, been there several times and been thankful for the Nokians. Some manufacturers occassionally also quote aquaplaning speed for a tyre, but not many, I think I saw it for Nokians and Michelins a long time ago last time.

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