Cheap EGR Delete *last chance*

[joelk2010]

Pictures added to GB thread

Nothing too exciting but meh

[joe_vrs_tdi]

Its now here!!!!

But i was in work when it arrived :(

[bondi]

For both engines, but can only be mapped out on an ASZ engine.

Can be mapped out on both ASZ and BLT and the rest

[Ryy.P]

did i miss something here? i thought this was like a group buy lol? :/

[mattvrestate]

did i miss something here? i thought this was like a group buy lol? :/

Jo_vrs_tdi bought his off the same bloke just before the group buy was being set up lol

[joelk2010]

It is, joe got impatient and jumped the gun lol.

Check group buy section to get your name down if not already done so

[joe_vrs_tdi]

I did indeed :( , i seen what was a bargain and took it and then looked back on here and a group buy was in the mist. I dont mind being a product tester though

[joelk2010]

Just a note to say closing date to get the GB price is tomorrow so if you want in please head over and get your name down

[mattvrestate]

Bump for the last day for the cheap egr delete price

[Ryy.P]

Just send me a pm about the money sorting and i'll send the payment (Y)

[joe_vrs_tdi]

Finally got to pick mine up. Quality is very good but it came with a jubilee clip not a tbolt clamp like was pictured, luckily i have a tbolt to fit from when i bought a loud for my cooler set up.

[john_y]

The item listed by ebay was a counterfeit copy of one made by proparts.

Contact proparts to see if they have a product that will fit you car.

John

[mattvrestate]

The item listed by ebay was a counterfeit copy of one made by proparts.

Contact proparts to see if they have a product that will fit you car.

John

Lol ^^^

Allard ones are not the same + they don't own the egr delete design :D

Contrary to what they may believe

They might sell more Allard kits if they werent so overpriced.. IMHO

[john_y]

Lol ^^^

Allard ones are not the same + they don't own the egr delete design :D

Contrary to what they may believe

They might sell more Allard kits if they werent so overpriced.. IMHO

They have an ebay equivalent 'copyright"

[mattvrestate]

Hense he + darkside got kicked off ebay.. doesnt make his counterfeit...

Its just a cheaper egr delete.. if u have a look in the group buy section u will find he has sold a load on here (hes onto his 2nd batch of group buys )

End of the day its just a straight bit of pipe.. not like Allard invented the wheel is it

[john_y]

Hense he + darkside got kicked off ebay.. doesnt make his counterfeit...

Its just a cheaper egr delete.. if u have a look in the group buy section u will find he has sold a load on here (hes onto his 2nd batch of group buys )

End of the day its just a straight bit of pipe.. not like Allard invented the wheel is it

How do you think they can make and sell for £25 - what sort of profit is that when you consider materials, labour - buying vag egr's and designing a product from scratch. It's not like Lloyd owns a factory producing 100 per minute.

I wouldn't be surprised if he sent a kit to Hungary!

Be great if you had your job exported.

Edited 21 December, 2012 by john_y

[mattvrestate]

All it shows is they can be made + sold cheaper than they are by Allard..

I bought mine for £37 after postage paid.. would have paid that to any UK based company/ fabricator.. im not willing to pay £20+ more for the sake of a logo on a sticker..

Exactly the same with Forge fmic's etc.. why pay £600 + when u can get a TPS one for £300...

If they want to sell more.. they need to lower the price or accept that alot of people will go elsewhere untill they do..

no point bullying every other company who trys to sell a cheaper alternative.

[john_y]

All it shows is they can be made + sold cheaper than they are by Allard..

I bought mine for £37 after postage paid.. would have paid that to any UK based company/ fabricator.. im not willing to pay £20+ more for the sake of a logo on a sticker..

Exactly the same with Forge fmic's etc.. why pay £600 + when u can get a TPS one for £300...

If they want to sell more.. they need to lower the price or accept that alot of people will go elsewhere untill they do..

no point bullying every other company who trys to sell a cheaper alternative.

I think the labour rates in Hungary are a lot cheaper - fancy working for £3 per hour or less ??

What do you do for work?

Edited 22 December, 2012 by john_y

[joe_vrs_tdi]

Who cares what they are earning in hungary, if its cheaper for us to then it doesnt matter. End of the day we want quality and price comparison and this one is the best of both.

John do you work for allard or this proparts by any chance?

[simmo3187]

Who cares what they are earning in hungary, if its cheaper for us to then it doesnt matter. End of the day we want quality and price comparison and this one is the best of both.

John do you work for allard or this proparts by any chance?

+1

[joelk2010]

Please can a mod tidy up the negativity in here before I goes to far down the drain ?

Not sure how to report / ask

[mattvrestate]

I think the labour rates in Hungary are a lot cheaper - fancy working for £3 per hour or less ??

What do you do for work?

I work at a VW main dealer as a mechanic.. and i accept that alot of people go to back streets instead of the main dealer because the labour rate is cheaper... but u dont see VW shutting down every back street do u?

But dont get me wrong we are still really busy because we offer a much better service in terms of diagnostics etc.. and we get ALOT of cars that have been to the backstreets.. had a problem/ missdiagnosed etc and the backstreets send em 2 us.. u pay for 2 hours diag at our dealership + if it takes 3 solid days to diag it then u get that for free untill its sorted.. thats something u will not get at any back street..

If u offer a service that no one else can match then u will keep getting buisness

Im sure u will continue to sell the allard kits but at the same time.. if joe bloggs does it cheaper then he will sell more..

I am not on about sending business abroad.. i have spoken to darkside-developments + they tryed to put there own egr kit on ebay + wer kicked off ebay by proparts for exactly the same.. they are from barsley (in the UK)..

[john_y]

okay, vw do a lot of r&d in terms of their engines etc

They spend money on it - then a chinese company buys a vw copies the product and sells it 50% cheaper - do you get it now?

I work at a VW main dealer as a mechanic.. and i accept that alot of people go to back streets instead of the main dealer because the labour rate is cheaper... but u dont see VW shutting down every back street do u?

But dont get me wrong we are still really busy because we offer a much better service in terms of diagnostics etc.. and we get ALOT of cars that have been to the backstreets.. had a problem/ missdiagnosed etc and the backstreets send em 2 us.. u pay for 2 hours diag at our dealership + if it takes 3 solid days to diag it then u get that for free untill its sorted.. thats something u will not get at any back street..

If u offer a service that no one else can match then u will keep getting buisness

Im sure u will continue to sell the allard kits but at the same time.. if joe bloggs does it cheaper then he will sell more..

I am not on about sending business abroad.. i have spoken to darkside-developments + they tryed to put there own egr kit on ebay + wer kicked off ebay by proparts for exactly the same.. they are from barsley (in the UK)..

okay

[mattvrestate]

VW golf.... Vauxhall Astra lol...

U want a VW polo but dont wana pay VW money.. u can buy a SEAT ibiza or Skoda fabia..

I get where ur coming from but there is a market for all those cars.. there is also a market for Allard egr deletes aswell as cheaper egr deletes.. people making cheaper versions of a product will always happen + its a good thing for the customer (so THEY can choose).. also good for product developement.. (forces companys to develop there product so it is better than its competitors)

U cannot simply stop people buying cheaper products..

If i wanted a boost gauge (which i dont) then buying an Allard egr delete would be a better option for me. So some people will have to get an Allard. No point in me paying extra for something i wont use.

Loads of examples of cheap "copies" being beneficial.. "JOM" coilovers... less than £200 nothing compared to £800 KWs which they probably "copied" there design from but without them there are alot of people who simply wouldn't have ever bought coilovers because they were too expensive..

"Ash" sylicone hoses.. half the price of "samco" hoses but do the same job and without cheap hoses alot of people wouldn't have bothered fitting FMIC kits etc..

Samco hasnt gone bust or anything.. they still have there high end customers who want "the best" hoses..

"Dare" alloys.. replica bbs rs wheels.. not everyone is willing to spend or even has £1500+ for real bbs rs wheels.. but those customers whould never have bought gen ones anyway + hasnt stopped people buying the real ones .

U get where im coming from?

[john_y]

VW golf.... Vauxhall Astra lol...

U want a VW polo but dont wana pay VW money.. u can buy a SEAT ibiza or Skoda fabia..

I get where ur coming from but there is a market for all those cars.. there is also a market for Allard egr deletes aswell as cheaper egr deletes.. people making cheaper versions of a product will always happen + its a good thing for the customer (so THEY can choose).. also good for product developement.. (forces companys to develop there product so it is better than its competitors)

U cannot simply stop people buying cheaper products..

If i wanted a boost gauge (which i dont) then buying an Allard egr delete would be a better option for me. So some people will have to get an Allard. No point in me paying extra for something i wont use.

Loads of examples of cheap "copies" being beneficial.. "JOM" coilovers... less than £200 nothing compared to £800 KWs which they probably "copied" there design from but without them there are alot of people who simply wouldn't have ever bought coilovers because they were too expensive..

"Ash" sylicone hoses.. half the price of "samco" hoses but do the same job and without cheap hoses alot of people wouldn't have bothered fitting FMIC kits etc..

Samco hasnt gone bust or anything.. they still have there high end customers who want "the best" hoses..

"Dare" alloys.. replica bbs rs wheels.. not everyone is willing to spend or even has £1500+ for real bbs rs wheels.. but those customers whould never have bought gen ones anyway + hasnt stopped people buying the real ones .

U get where im coming from?

Thank-you for your analysis.

Yes, like a lot of English people you want something for nothing - sales mentality

Edited 22 December, 2012 by john_y