It makes it loads easier strapping my niece into the car when using a mother and child bay

Sent from my Galaxy S3, not a Crapple!

I always park in the mum and brat spaces, not to save my car just to pee off the professional "I'm a mother" types.

I've often looked at these since my nippers have grown up, and wondered if you're breaking any sort of laws/rules by using them if you haven't got kids?

Very tempted, but have resisted so far, but having recently had my van n/s door dented by a couldn't give a toss 'cus it's not mine ******, I've seriously been considering.

I used to do the same thing until I discovered a ding on the door and another on the front wheel arch...I agree it's really annoying, but it's bound to happen eventually.

Having said that, I remember I used to go to a car park regularly where the owner of a LR Discovery would put foam panel (packaging things) on the side of his/her car to stop the car next door from dinging it.

Saw this and another version which hangs a couple of months ago, looks like a good idea, but I can imagine someone knicking it.

Come on people keep it friendly

This was discussed at length (and heatedly) a few months ago.

The child spaces are great if they make them wider so you can safely open a door to lift a child out without fear of hitting another car. If you've ever tried to get a child into or out of a door when some unthinking eejit has parked close up to you (without damaging said eejit's car) then you will understand.

They don't need to be near the door IMHO, just near a trolley park so you can get your child safely in and don't have to leave them for more than a few seconds to dump the trolley.

Who let this troll out? Clearly you have no idea why parent and child parking bays make a big difference for parents as your NOT a parent so don't talk a lot of *******s about something you know nothing about or have not experienced.

I suspect that parenthood can bring out a victim mentality in some.

There's so much anger in that post!

Like the world has set out somehow to make your lives more difficult because you were cursed

by a mystical magic stork who dropped a baby down the chimney one day...

Thank goodness, you were generous enough to take care of it?

If I saw my own leg off is it your fault I have to hop everywhere? Of course not.

Here's a newsflash! You make your own life difficult by having children, but that's your choice

right? Taking it out on others who didn't make the same choice isn't a very nurturing quality

from where I'm sitting but maybe that's just my take on it.

I don't have children either, but that doesn't mean I've never driven a child somewhere.

My sister has two babies and my wife has younger brothers that are still at school.

Or am I breaking some kind of law having contact with them purely because I haven't yet

squirted my man fat into a suitably fertile host and made one of my own? Ridiculous.

I don't think parents should get preferential treatment and a bigger space just because

they have pro-created either. I'd never use a handicapped bay but in my book parent and child

spaces are fair game, kids or no kids. Particularly during the daytime when the majority

of under 18's should be at school. I think there should be handicapped space provision and

that's all. Every other space should be the same.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that parents have a right to bigger spaces, or parking closer to the door.

Disabled people - yes absolutely.

Parent/child spaces are a nice convenience, that's all.

Right, so I park my car in the middle of no where when I go shopping, as I suspect most of you do on this forum.

Nope, I park where theres a space as close as I can.

Yes, just because someone's kept their legs open long enough for her hubby to fantasise it's her sister under him doesn't mean they need exclusive parking, charge them £5 to park there and you'll soon see them happy to make their precious little bundle walk 50 metres.

Woah. I guess you've never had a great experience of men then. Not all of us mentally pretend the Mrs is her sister or whoever. Perhaps you need to find a better catch of men?

As for parent spaces, I've been to a supermarket in the midlands a few weeks back and their parking firm was issuing tickets via CCTV for parent & disabled bay misuse at £90 a pop. Along with the usual parking their and walking over the road to the shopping centre to avoid paying £1.20/hour....

Hopefully they'll roll it out nationally.

Just park as close as you can to the passenger side of the car without touching it, preferably as new and shiny as they get. They'll come out realize there's no hope of getting in and pull out of the bay to let the passenger in lol

Sent from my Galaxy S3, not a Crapple!

I came out of Asda once and I was parked way over the other side in a large empty area. Saw a Micra just parking next to me and the person get out but they had to push there door open with there foot. I cringed because I knew what was going to happen and it did. I waited until the person was along way off from there car and I suddenly had to manoeuvre round the passenger side for some strange reason and all of a sudden there whole drivers mirror fell on the floor lol

Then I drove home

I only had white paint on my n/s door rubber moulding.

I came out of Asda once and I was parked way over the other side in a large empty area. Saw a Micra just parking next to me and the person get out but they had to push there door open with there foot. I cringed because I knew what was going to happen and it did. I waited until the person was along way off from there car and I suddenly had to manoeuvre round the passenger side for some strange reason and all of a sudden there whole drivers mirror fell on the floor lol

Then I drove home

I only had white paint on my n/s door rubber moulding.

So they were thoughtless and careless and caused no real damage, whereas you deliberately engaged in fairly expensive criminal damage. Nice.

I've found the best way to avoid dents in car parks is to drive a people carrier .. People in normal cars don't park close enough anymore to dent my car

Matthew

I suspect that parenthood can bring out a victim mentality in some.

There's so much anger in that post!

Like the world has set out somehow to make your lives more difficult because you were cursed

by a mystical magic stork who dropped a baby down the chimney one day...

Thank goodness, you were generous enough to take care of it?

If I saw my own leg off is it your fault I have to hop everywhere? Of course not.

Here's a newsflash! You make your own life difficult by having children, but that's your choice

right? Taking it out on others who didn't make the same choice isn't a very nurturing quality

from where I'm sitting but maybe that's just my take on it.

I don't have children either, but that doesn't mean I've never driven a child somewhere.

My sister has two babies and my wife has younger brothers that are still at school.

Or am I breaking some kind of law having contact with them purely because I haven't yet

squirted my man fat into a suitably fertile host and made one of my own? Ridiculous.

I don't think parents should get preferential treatment and a bigger space just because

they have pro-created either. I'd never use a handicapped bay but in my book parent and child

spaces are fair game, kids or no kids. Particularly during the daytime when the majority

of under 18's should be at school. I think there should be handicapped space provision and

that's all. Every other space should be the same.

Hmmmmmm clearly you have issues.

Firstly, who said my life was difficult because I have children? No one? You really took a lot out of my post eh, Must have hit a nerve. Having kids is the best thing that’s ever happened to me just so you know.

Secondly, why would supermarkets purposefully create parent and child parking if they thought there was no benefit, remember they take up more space than the standard parking bays. It’s all about convenience for the parents, have you ever tried to get small babies and children in/out of a car seat in the standard bays they provide with cars either side of you? Let me tell you it’s a squeeze and going back to the thread post, it makes the chance of hitting another vehicles door more likely hence why they created these special parking bays.

The 2 supermarkets I use will issue a fixed penalty notice if you don’t have children with you and park in one of these bays, sooner or later you’ll end up getting fined for using them – your choice I suppose.

So parent and child bays are a fair game in your book eh, what a selfish attitude that is I’d hate to see what you’re like driving on road if that’s your philosophy, can you tell me your reason for parking in these bays then?

Edited 24 October, 201213 yr by Wobbs

Hmmmmmm clearly you have issues.

Firstly, who said my life was difficult because I have children? No one? You really took a lot out of my post eh, Must have hit a nerve. Having kids is the best thing that’s ever happened to me just so you know.

Secondly, why would supermarkets purposefully create parent and child parking if they thought there was no benefit, remember they take up more space than the standard parking bays. It’s all about convenience for the parents, have you ever tried to get small babies and children in/out of a car seat in the standard bays they provide with cars either side of you? Let me tell you it’s a squeeze and going back to the thread post, it makes the chance of hitting another vehicles door more likely hence why they created these special parking bays.

The 2 supermarkets I use will issue a fixed penalty notice if you don’t have children with you and park in one of these bays, sooner or later you’ll end up getting fined for using them – your choice I suppose.

So parent and child bays are a fair game in your book eh, what a selfish attitude that is I’d hate to see what you’re like driving on road if that’s your philosophy, can you tell me your reason for parking in these bays then?

Damnation. Can't find me specs.

Hmmmmmm clearly you have issues.

Firstly, who said my life was difficult because I have children? No one? You really took a lot out of my post eh, Must have hit a nerve. Having kids is the best thing that’s ever happened to me just so you know.

Secondly, why would supermarkets purposefully create parent and child parking if they thought there was no benefit, remember they take up more space than the standard parking bays. It’s all about convenience for the parents, have you ever tried to get small babies and children in/out of a car seat in the standard bays they provide with cars either side of you? Let me tell you it’s a squeeze and going back to the thread post, it makes the chance of hitting another vehicles door more likely hence why they created these special parking bays.

The 2 supermarkets I use will issue a fixed penalty notice if you don’t have children with you and park in one of these bays, sooner or later you’ll end up getting fined for using them – your choice I suppose.

So parent and child bays are a fair game in your book eh, what a selfish attitude that is I’d hate to see what you’re like driving on road if that’s your philosophy, can you tell me your reason for parking in these bays then?

Normally I'd ignore a post like this but in the interest of healthy debate I'll address your

points one by one. I have issues? Yes, I suppose I do. I currently can't decide whether

to take my next month long holiday in New Zealand or to go back to the Maldives again

because there's nothing worse than spending thousands on a holiday to have it ruined

by someone elses wretched children going bananas.. Adults only wherever possible...

Apart from that, I'm very happily married, with a lovely house and looking forward to buying

an Audi in the near future. I'm not sure I'd be in this situation if I had children as they are

such a terrible financial burden and a huge drain on ones time.

I stand by my remark about the anger in your initial post, as yet I haven't tripped

the swear filter unlike some.

I love that well used line too 'having kids is the best thing thats happened to me...'

because if held up to the day to day drudge of school-runs, dirty nappies, being short of money,

never having any intimate time with the wife, called into the school because the kid is playing up,

having to make the effort to drag your spawn all over the place to see relatives,

constant noise, front room full of toys, etc etc etc it doesn't seem all that great to me.

Personally I'd rather have a nice quiet life.

But if that's your idea of heaven then good for you, but it isn't mine.

Personally, I'd rather be sipping cocktails in Mexico watching the sun set, or swimming with

dolphins in Hawaii, hiking in the Grand Canyon, driving route 66, things like that.

Those are some of the best things that have happened to me and that's just the last holiday

I was on. Would I swap? No chance...

Supermarkets offer bigger spaces to families because they spend more per visit...

That's the benefit, they get more of your cash in their tills. That's about the only reason,

if you think it's because somehow they sympathise with the trials of parenthood then

you're deluded. They want you to bring the kids along because then you'll most likely

put a little bit more in your trolley due to pester power.

Net gain from that provision alone across the the whole business is well worth sacrificing

a half dozen spots in each car park to make some wider ones. Do you think that if I wrote

to Tesco that they would provide 'car enthusiast spaces' . Like hell they would, but if statistics

and market research suggested that I'd spend more if they did then they would 'provide'

them as well.

Yes I agree, it must be tricky getting 2 kids and a baby out of a car in a busy

supermarket car park, but as you've said it's the best thing that's happened to you

so soak up the joy. Personally I'd leave them at home or with a relative.

I'd get the shopping done in half the time and spend less in the process.

I've had 2 supermarket parking tickets over the years which I've torn up and ignored.

Guess what? They are pretty much un-enforceable and I've never heard anything

about either of them since. Regardless of whether or not I've validated my existence by

having children, would Tesco for example really go all out to prosecute another paying

customer and risk permanently driving them to the competition? I doubt it.

They all just want your money, kids, no kids, black, white, rich,

poor. They don't give a stuff as long as the cash keeps rolling in, but families are

targeted as they spend the most, so they give you a nappy change station,

lowered urinals in the gents and a few wider spaces and seats in the trollies

for the nippers. Purely to boost their own profits. Not to do you a favour.

.

Every little helps eh?

I'm not anti family here. My sister has two lovely little nippers and I'm very

proud and happy to be their Uncle. But it's great being able to hand them

back when they are getting on my nerves.

It must really be a real pain in the butt when you can't?

Finally the reason why I think it's okay to park in these spaces?

A. I usually shop late at night when these spaces aren't in such demand.

So if theres one available I park there to keep my car doors undamaged.

B. If parents are taking their children to the supermarket after 21.00

then they aren't being particularly good parents IMO

C. If unusually I am shopping during the day, and the only space available is

one of these. (quite common at my local Tesco) I ask myself 'Would Tesco

rather I drove to Asda where there's a bigger car park and spend my money there?'

Course they wouldn't...

Normally I'd ignore a post like this but in the interest of healthy debate I'll address your

points one by one. I have issues? Yes, I suppose I do. I currently can't decide whether

to take my next month long holiday in New Zealand or to go back to the Maldives again

because there's nothing worse than spending thousands on a holiday to have it ruined

by someone elses wretched children going bananas.. Adults only wherever possible...

Apart from that, I'm very happily married, with a lovely house and looking forward to buying

an Audi in the near future. I'm not sure I'd be in this situation if I had children as they are

such a terrible financial burden and a huge drain on ones time.

I stand by my remark about the anger in your initial post, as yet I haven't tripped

the swear filter unlike some.

I love that well used line too 'having kids is the best thing thats happened to me...'

because if held up to the day to day drudge of school-runs, dirty nappies, being short of money,

never having any intimate time with the wife, called into the school because the kid is playing up,

having to make the effort to drag your spawn all over the place to see relatives,

constant noise, front room full of toys, etc etc etc Personally I'd rather have a nice quiet

life. But if that's your idea of heaven then good for you, but it isn't mine.

Personally, I'd rather be sipping cocktails in Mexico watching the sun set, or swimming with

dolphins in Hawaii, hiking in the Grand Canyon, driving route 66, things like that.

Those are some of the best things that have happened to me and that's just the last holiday

I was on. Would I swap? No chance...

Supermarkets offer bigger spaces to families because they spend more per visit...

That's the benefit, they get more of your cash in their tills. That's about the only reason,

if you think it's because somehow they sympathise with the trials of parenthood then

you're deluded. They want you to bring the kids along because then you'll most likely

put a little bit more in your trolley due to pester power.

Net gain from that provision alone across the the whole business is well worth sacrificing

a half dozen spots in each car park to make some wider ones. Do you think that if I wrote

to Tesco that they would provide 'car enthusiast spaces' . Like hell they would, but if statistics

and market research suggested that I'd spend more if they did then they would 'provide'

them as well.

Yes I agree, it must be tricky getting 2 kids and a baby out of a car in a busy

supermarket car park, but as you've said it's the best thing that's happened to you

so soak up the joy. Personally I'd leave them at home or with a relative.

I'd get the shopping done in half the time and spend less in the process.

I've had 2 supermarket parking tickets over the years which I've torn up and ignored.

Guess what? They are pretty much un-enforceable and I've never heard anything

about either of them since. Regardless of whether or not I've validated my existence by

having children, would Tesco for example really go all out to prosecute another paying

customer and risk permanently driving them to the competition? I doubt it.

They all just want your money, kids, no kids, black, white, rich,

poor. They don't give a stuff as long as the cash keeps rolling in, but families are

targeted as they spend the most, so they give you a nappy change station,

lowered urinals in the gents and a few wider spaces and seats in the trollies

for the nippers. Purely to boost their own profits. Not to do you a favour.

.

Every little helps eh?

I'm not anti family here. My sister has two lovely little nippers and I'm very

proud and happy to be their Uncle. But it's great being able to hand them

back when they are getting on my nerves.

It must really be a real pain in the butt when you can't?

Finally the reason why I think it's okay to park in these spaces?

A. I usually shop late at night when these spaces aren't in such demand.

So if theres one available I park there to keep my car doors undamaged.

B. If parents are taking their children to the supermarket after 21.00

then they aren't being particularly good parents IMO

C. If unusually I am shopping during the day, and the only space available is

one of these. (quite common at my local Tesco) I ask myself 'Would Tesco

rather I drove to Asda where there's a bigger car park and spend my money there?'

Course they wouldn't...

You wouldn't be on this earth if your parents thought like that would you? Have some dam respect for other people. I'm a glasweigen born and bred by the way and we do a lot of swearing generally when we talk so don't take it personally. You'll know when i'm being angry - trust me.

Ok, so some sacrifices have to be made when you have kids but its not like your life is over for FFS! I've been to China, France and Germany in the past 2 years on Holiday, and i'm not short on money, so kids haven't held me back in any way, in-fact it's way better, you on the other hand seem to have a chip on your shoulder, you must be a "Fun" uncle.

You come across as being very immature and a bit of a **** admitting to parking in these bays, getting fines and not paying them. The bays are there for a reason just like disabled bays, clearly that reason doesn't fit into your way of thinking so you just blatantly break the rules and think to "hell with everyone else". No wonder this country is such a state when people like you are about. Grow up and try and be a good citizen, maybe karma will help you out with a lottery win and you can purchase your own giant parking space for your car and your ego.

Edited 24 October, 201213 yr by Wobbs

Such little miracles:

(Quite a bit of swearing, don't let the kids see it )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pe9zw9iQK8

How about "Briskoda Members Only" car parking spaces? Then we would all be happy.

Yes, just because someone's kept their legs open long enough for her hubby to fantasise it's her sister under him doesn't mean they need exclusive parking, charge them £5 to park there and you'll soon see them happy to make their precious little bundle walk 50 metres.

Wow! What happened in your life to make you so bitter? Perhaps your last boyfriend/girlfriend ran off with your sister, or brother? So many possible scenarios…

And while we're on the subject, why do you keep up this pretence throughout your posts that you're some kind of sexual libertine? It's very odd Daisy and seems to suggest a deep-rooted neediness :think: Just a thought.

Back to the original point, how can you make a baby walk? And not all babies are created through mindless accident. Sometimes two people who love each other very much decide they'd like to sustain the human race and possibly contribute to society in a positive way, by raising and nurturing offspring and instilling in them values of tolerance and respect in the hope that they'll spread these values for the greater good. It doesn't always work out like this of course, but it's the thought that counts.

Why did your mum and dad have you :love:

What happened to the old popcorn emoticon?

Most child spaces are for under 12's which is stupid imo, it should be about 5 yrs old tops. Most kids can easily climb out by themselves at age surely !!

I own a 4 yr old and she manages fine, I don't even bother with the spaces half the time(adimttidly if theres a few free I'll dive in if I'm rushing) its more about babies in car seats if you ask me, where you can't even get them out of half open door because it's a rear facing seat or some people need to put a buggy/pushchair on the back seats.

What rattles me is when you see a gargantuan sat there with all the kids in the car whilst the she-gargantuan is in Asda on her own(usually near the donuts section)

The wife pulled someone in an X5 up recently about parking in the kids section, to which the young lady replied "I've got car seats in there" the wife retorted with "but where are the kids then", The charmer then called my wife a "rough ****" and strolled of into sainsburys ....Oh the irony !!

For the record ......

I'd rather the missus than either of her sisters.

Yes, just because someone's kept their legs open long enough for her hubby to fantasise it's her sister under him

Wow here is me thinking I was the only one.... :rofl:

Not all of us mentally pretend the Mrs is her sister or whoever. Perhaps you need to find a better catch of men?

Oh ok, just me then.....

SWMBO hates shopping if I'm with her because if I see someone without a baby/toddler using the spaces or waiting in them for their other half with the kids in the car I always say something to them. It's actually got to a point where my 5yr old comments to people who park in the spaces when they shouldn't and when he does that it really gets a great reaction.

My boys are now 5yr/8yr and we don't use the parent parking spaces as the normal spaces are big enough for us to get our kids in/out of the car without trouble (unless someone parks badly in the space next to use leaving us little space).

I once confronted a couple who looked to be in their 40's parking their Range Rover in a parent/child space at Tesco's, I got a load of abuse as they had their daughter with them. I couldn't believe it when their daughter climbed out of the 4x4 and must of been in her early 20's, they still classed her as their child (play of words)

When our boys were in stage1 car seats I would always try to use the parent/child spaces as it does make it easier but I don't agree that they should be at the entrance to the supermarkets, that should be for the disabled spaces.

Another couple of thoughts, why are parents getting the blame for the dents?? How about the car manufacturers? When I had my Octi Hatch it was a nightmare to get the boys in/out of as the shape of the door made it quite long so didn't open that wide, however the Octi Estate has a much squarer door making the rear seats much easier to access.

What about able bodied people who park in Disabled spaces, they're another cause of the problem, this means disabled people who need to open their door further often end up opening their doors onto the car to the side of them in a normal space to get in/out, Maybe they don't deserve a disabled space if the cause of their disablement is due to them being in an accident which was their fault and loosing the use of their leg/legs/reduced movement/arms etc? (going of the if you have kids live with it thought)

Matthew

Why did your mum and dad have you :love:

If I knew where to find him I'll ask

Sometimes two people who love each other very much decide they'd like to sustain the human race and possibly contribute to society in a positive way, by raising and nurturing offspring and instilling in them values of tolerance and respect in the hope that they'll spread these values for the greater good. It doesn't always work out like this of course, but it's the thought that counts.

Ahhh, when a man loves a woman he shows his love by putting a baby in her tummy,

how old are you?, 12?

Daisy you have issues , however they are your issues not anyone else's so enjoy, for me I take 2 spaces every time far away from the madding crowds but never take disabled bays but do take parent bays , I only take 2 bays if its empty tho

*opens a jumbo sized bag of popcorn