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Hi guys, made a start fitting my Pro Sport coilovers today to my Octy vRS.

The Pro Sport kit has the brackets on them for the front ARB drop links.

However the standard drop links were tight to remove from the old struts and there impossible to fit to the coilovers.

It seems with the car jacked up, the bottom arm doesn't go low enough for the arb to drop so the drop links will fit.

Raising (or lowering) the height of the coilovers doesn't make any odds.

The only way I can see of getting the standard drop links to fit, is if I split the ball joint so I bottom arm drops and then I can force the arb down and get the drop link in place.

But then i'm going to have issues of the arb being sat on the bottom arm (assuming I can even get the ball joint back in place).

So am I missing something, or do I need shorter drop links and if so, what ones do I need ?

Thanks

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you can get adjustable drop links if you have a hunt around, then adjust them by however many mm's you have dropped the car, shorter than the standard drop links.

or cheaper buy a set for another car, i know the fabias take mondeo 04 tdi links.

although im not aware of drop link issues on octy

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I can't be the only 1 with this issue ?

im searching currently but cant find anything. ill pm jonesy he has joms on his vrs

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I will take some pics tomorrow (car is on axle stands on my mates drive at the moment).

I am really not sure how I could have done it wrong though, I mean the strut fits in the hub, the top mount fits at the top, and thats it, if either are not lined up correct, the bolt / nuts won't fit in place.

is the drop link mount on the new pro sport strut much lower to the hub than the original strut drop link mount? Maybe a design issue and you may need shorter links

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is the drop link mount on the new pro sport strut much lower to the hub than the original strut drop link mount? Maybe a design issue and you may need shorter links

Yeh that is something I had wondered, I will have a measure up in the morning and see whats what.

then its a tedious task of measuring current drop links, and searching for links to another car that have an equivalent type but shorter size. itll be cheap but annoying

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then its a tedious task of measuring current drop links, and searching for links to another car that have an equivalent type but shorter size. itll be cheap but annoying

They look around 10 - 20mm too long, and i've found out they are 336mm so time to get on google I guess and find some 316 - 320mm droplinks :D

Still not convinced i'm the only 1 thats had this issue though.

has yours had after market arb's?

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Not that I know of, the rest of the car is totally standard, so no reason that it would have had the arb uprated in the past.

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http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649

found a guy on ebay who lists mm's of links he sells and searched through them all. Would this be suitable? Is it the type you have i.e 2 heads facing 180 from eachother. These are 310mm so only 6 mm out so should do?

Top man, will give them a try, if not, looks like pug 406 / citroen c5 drop links are 324mm :)

yeah saw the c5 ones, but thought as long was the problem, the shorter side would have been better.

Let me know how ya get on, either way its a cheap gamble, have you got a cheap factors nearby to buy them from

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yeah saw the c5 ones, but thought as long was the problem, the shorter side would have been better.

Let me know how ya get on, either way its a cheap gamble, have you got a cheap factors nearby to buy them from

Yeh will nip into GSF and grab a couple of sets (hopefully they will have them in stock).

Yeh will nip into GSF and grab a couple of sets (hopefully they will have them in stock).

Be very careful. I would not change your drop links for anything else than std size. Think 336mm comes to mind which is the same as golf R32 , LCR etc.

There are no other drop links that will fit VRS correctly as they are not like none VRS and golf where you can get shorter ones for the lowering to stop drive shaft touching.

If you fit none std Skoda ones you may find issues when turning on lock.

I would verify you have the correct shocks first and measure the height where the links fit.

No one I know has had to change std VRS drop links to fit coilovers.

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Be very careful. I would not change your drop links for anything else than std size. Think 336mm comes to mind which is the same as golf R32 , LCR etc.

There are no other drop links that will fit VRS correctly as they are not like none VRS and golf where you can get shorter ones for the lowering to stop drive shaft touching.

If you fit none std Skoda ones you may find issues when turning on lock.

I would verify you have the correct shocks first and measure the height where the links fit.

No one I know has had to change std VRS drop links to fit coilovers.

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There is nothing special that I can see about the vrs / lcr drop links, they are just 336mm and are ball joints at each end, like many other vechicles.

That in itself isn't an issue.

The standard ones will not fit with these coilovers that much I am pretty sure of, as I spent around 2 hours this afternoon trying to get them to fit, I even bought replacement stock items incase someone had in the past fitted longer ones for some strange reason.

But they were the same length.

As said the arb is stat on the wishbone with no drop links connected and with the car in the air (the wishbone is actually flat, rather than angled down.

Having re-read the description of the coilovers, it does stat that the struts are shorter than stock.

Here is a picture to give you an idea of where the arb bracket is in relation to the hub.

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There is nothing special that I can see about the vrs / lcr drop links, they are just 336mm and are ball joints at each end, like many other vechicles.

That in itself isn't an issue.

The standard ones will not fit with these coilovers that much I am pretty sure of, as I spent around 2 hours this afternoon trying to get them to fit, I even bought replacement stock items incase someone had in the past fitted longer ones for some strange reason.

But they were the same length.

As said the arb is stat on the wishbone with no drop links connected and with the car in the air (the wishbone is actually flat, rather than angled down.

Having re-read the description of the coilovers, it does stat that the struts are shorter than stock.

Here is a picture to give you an idea of where the arb bracket is in relation to the hub.

Yep those struts have the bracket way lower buddy and if fitting them you will no way be able to fit std droplinks

I do ask though are you sure those struts are right vehicle as never seen them that low for the vag group cars.

My point was should not need to fit none std VRS droplinks if struts is as per std, which those are clearly not.

So yep if you want to fit them no option but to find different vehicle ones.

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Yep those struts have the bracket way lower buddy and if fitting them you will no way be able to fit std droplinks

I do ask though are you sure those struts are right vehicle as never seen them that low for the vag group cars.

My point was should not need to fit none std VRS droplinks if struts is as per std, which those are clearly not.

So yep if you want to fit them no option but to find different vehicle ones.

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There listed for octy vRS, LCR and TT 8n (I think) only.

I noticed that now DPM are selling them also for the vRS (although they didn't when I asked them on tuesday / wednesday).

Just to thrown my two penny's worth in

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These are my coilovers I fitted to my VRS and the drop link tab looks a fair bit higher than the ones in you picture maybe even the difference in mm your having. I would suggest that they may not be the correct ones for your car mate even though they have been listed as such. I would PM Damien at DPM with the code on your box and see if he can cross reference the number against what he shows for the VRS.

There listed for octy vRS, LCR and TT 8n (I think) only.

I noticed that now DPM are selling them also for the vRS (although they didn't when I asked them on tuesday / wednesday).

problem is people sometimes list stuff for the vrs (or other cars in general) as fitting when it doesn't, have seen lots of golf setups advertised in this way for the octavia

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Well there on, and managed to find some drop links that fit and work.

The difference between the top drop link bracket is 9cm, and the stock drop links are 336mm.

I did some measuring up on the car, and worked out roughly where the arb should sit, and came to the conclusion that 245mm drop links would be ideal.

I had to settle with 250mm in the end though.

I haven't set the coilovers up yet, the front is on the floor (not fully wound down, but not far off it, as thats how they came out of the box (measured them obviously to be sure they were level).

There a bit bouncy and on full lock the tyres are rubbing the arch liners, so will jack it up and raise it a few mm tomorrow hopefully (if the weather holds off).

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problem is people sometimes list stuff for the vrs (or other cars in general) as fitting when it doesn't, have seen lots of golf setups advertised in this way for the octavia

Yeh I have seen that a few times, however these are listed for those 3 vehicles only, and I assume it's because of the arb bracket being fitted that there listed for these models and not all models.

its an odd one, as your droplink mounts are def wrong..

nice ingenuity btw, its what i would do too, but i can't help but think something is not right..

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