Hi folks,

My 1700 mile tdi 140 dsg is giving me around 35 mpg local short run use and very early 40s on a longer run. How much do things improve after say 5-10k miles guys?? I was kinda hoping for 40mpg local short run use and high 40s on a longer run once fully loosened up..... am I being a bit too optimistic??

Any anecdotal evidence from other owners would be most appreciated.

TIA and kind regards to all,

Mike

Depends how you drive it, and if you do a lot of shortish runs from cold.

I think your figures are in the ball park.

You are starting in the coldest part of the year,and the Diesels take a long time to warm up.

You should see 2/3 mpg better with the return of the summer temperatures.

As for loosening up,40,000 miles or so should do it.

....around 35 mpg local short run use and very early 40s on a longer run....

At 1500-ish miles, I'm getting perhaps one or two better than that, but our journeys and driving probably differ. At the end of a long M6/M40 run last week the maxidot was showing 46-point-something. On the basis of forum info, we might expect some useful improvement - though some say that the DSG doesn't help here.

Mine has almost 30,000 miles on the clock. Turns 2 years old in just over a month.

Around congested South London about 25-30 mpg, where average speed is about 10mph.

Not so congested and it will get up to about 35mpg.

Throw in some 40mph speed limits and constant moving and it will approach 40mpg.

A & B roads using the remapped performance and I get about 35mpg.

Motorways at 60mph will give you about 50mpg and at 70mph will give you low 40's.

Towing 1 tonne caravan 25-30mpg over a hilly route sticking to caravan speed limit, specially up steep hills!

I tend to drive mine gently, as fuel at £1.50 per litre for V-Power is not cheap.

I will add that I live at the bottom of the North Downs and generally have to cross them frequently, which can mess up the economy.

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I have done only 800 miles in my 140 dsg. I'm averaging 38.7

I have had many new cars and I expect this average to improve by Up to 2/3 mpg but no more. My friend has a Golf 140dsg and winter averages about 45. I reckon the yeti will be 10% less

I've averaged 35.5mpg, based on 18,200 miles in 8 months - I doubt it'll alter much in the future.

I've done over 50k miles and from an earlier thread ( http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/250832-50k/ )

Total mileage covered by me 47073

Diesel used 4598 litres

Giving an overall fuel consumption of 46.5 mpg.

About 1200 miles has been towing the caravan, which gave a consumption of 34 mpg approx.

and that is with a 140bhp 4x4.

I've done over 50k miles and from an earlier thread ( http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/250832-50k/ )

Total mileage covered by me 47073

Diesel used 4598 litres

Giving an overall fuel consumption of 46.5 mpg.

About 1200 miles has been towing the caravan, which gave a consumption of 34 mpg approx.

and that is with a 140bhp 4x4.

Yes Graham

But yours is not a DSG.

We all know the manual is more economical.

:lol:

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I struggled to reach 25mpg coming from Battersea to Croydon this evening.

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Many thanks for the responses.

Surprised that the manual is more economic than the dsg as I thought that this new intelligent semi-autos were at least as economic as manual - I'm obviously wrong in that regard! Although I have noticed that my dsg hangs on to 4th and 5th longer than I would if changing manually.

As regards the maxidot mpg, I'm finding this a good 10% optimistic compared to real world mpg when filling up. Just got back from a trip up to Loch Morar and whilst the maxidot mpg would be 43mpg or so (steady driving at 55-70mph indicated) fill-ups would invariably work out at more like 38mpg. Have other Yeti-ers here noticed this too??

All in all, and whilst I appreciate that this is a tonne and a half auto 4x4 and not exactly aerodynamically adept, I was hoping for real world economy of pretty much what the maxidot tells me it is rather than what it really is!!

Cheers,

Mike

Surprised that the manual is more economic than the dsg as I thought that this new intelligent semi-autos were at least as economic as manual - I'm obviously wrong in that regard!

I think you are missing the fact that the new DSG boxes that match or exceed the manuals for economy are typically dry clutch versions with more gears.

The 1.2 Petrol DSG Yeti has a dry clutch 7 speed auto DSG box and so matches the fuel consuption of a manual, or in some circumstances can do slightly better.

But you have a diesel DSG.

This uses the old wet clutch (more drag) 6 speed gearbox that gives noticably worse economy than the equivalent manual.

Even Skoda's official figures show the diesel DSG to be worse while the petrol DSG is around the same ot better than the manual.

I still maintain that if you don't need 4x4 or pulling power torque over 60mph the 1.2 Petrol DSG is a fine choice over the diesel because it has the superior gearbox.

It's about £4000 cheaper to buy and gets similar economy running on cheaper fuel.

BossFox,

Good points well put and thanks for the response.

If I didn't need the 4x4 (which I do), then I would indeed have gone for either the FWD 1.2dsg or greenline diesel instead as you wisely suggest/advocate.

I'm still a bit niggled that the maxi dot mpg is a good 10% more optimistic than actual though! Most other VW/Audi/BMW cars I've had over the years have been a bit optimistic also but only by 2 to 5% or so rather than a good 10%. I suppose it's just that the maxidot figures had made me think mmmmm... this is really quite good for what it is, when in fact the truth is that I'm struggling to get out of the 30s no matter how I drive.

Cheers,

Mike

Mike, what is a shame is that the diesel DSG has not been updated to the modern more economical box.

Only the petrol got the 7 speed as it could not handle the torque of the diesel engine.

But in various high performance VW group products a DSG was not offered for some time, such as on the TT-RS, but now it's been available in 7 speed form for a while.

So there is a version a bit like the 1.2 DSG box that can handle more torque, just Skoda have not (been allowed) to fit it into their cars yet.

If they were allowed to fit it I'd expect to see a 5%-10% increase in economy.

Hopefully it'll come in with the face lift next year.

My wife can only drive auto, so she ended up with a 1.2 DSG on all season tyres and I got a diesel manual.

BossFox,

Good points well put and thanks for the response.

If I didn't need the 4x4 (which I do), then I would indeed have gone for either the FWD 1.2dsg or greenline diesel instead as you wisely suggest/advocate.

I'm still a bit niggled that the maxi dot mpg is a good 10% more optimistic than actual though! Most other VW/Audi/BMW cars I've had over the years have been a bit optimistic also but only by 2 to 5% or so rather than a good 10%. I suppose it's just that the maxidot figures had made me think mmmmm... this is really quite good for what it is, when in fact the truth is that I'm struggling to get out of the 30s no matter how I drive.

Is it not possible to adjust the accuracy of the Maxidot fuel consumption buy utilising VCDS ?

Is it not possible to adjust the accuracy of the Maxidot fuel consumption buy utilising VCDS ?

I believe so, yes.

I believe so, yes.

How so please BossFox??

TIA

Mike

I have a VCDS, but am a bit of a noob at it.

Have a look on the VCDS section of this forum or contact Rockhopper.

I believe he had his DSG diesel Yeti mpg corrected.

I'm not disagreeing with any of the points already made but there are so many variables involve in mpg that it's difficult to make hard and fast statements. I ran a manual 140 4X4 SE for 23,000 miles and the maxidot said 39.7. I've now done just over 3000 in a DSG 140 4X4 Elegance and the maxidot says 38.3. Given that my driving style, routes taken etc haven't changed, that's not much of a difference and well worth it for the superb DSG. Things like short journeys and traffic congestion can absolutely ruin consumption, while a gentle 60mph cruise on an A road can get you into the high 40's. I once did a 37 mile cruise into Gloucester in the manual and kept an eye on the consumption. I arrived in the middle of the city with something like 47mpg showing, but 10 minutes crawling around looking for a parking spot near the rugby ground knocked it down to 37!

Agree with BossFox's comment on the excellent 7 speed DSG. My wife's Fabia has got one. Trouble is, flooring it is such fun that we rarely get out of the 30's

See my signature for my consumption.... Which is dire I think albeit in the same ballpark as suggested. If you go on that website and click on the other Yetis with the same engine then you see there are PAGES of DSG Yetis with better consumption than mine. Argh... At the last service I asked them to check this and it got the all clear. Oh well. Leadfoot then to blame I guess... :-)

Or living with London congestion?

My proper consumption is also in my signature; currently 34.9 mpg.

General MFD (maxidot) display is 37.6 - can't be bothered to get it corrected. Routine driving includes 15 miles each way on the Motorway at good speed; consumption homeward often less than 35 mpg but easily 40 - 42 mpg to work; different traffic volume/speed.

Recent holiday trip to the North York Moors, with easy, but swift, A road got me 42 - 44 mpg.

Just to throw a spanner in the works; I've recently been using BP Ultimate in lieu of Shell V-Power and seem (unscientifically) to be getting 1 - 2 mpg better consumption.

PS> getting mine remapped to 185 (ish) bhp didn't make much difference to the fuel consumption but Kevin goes a fair bit quicker.

I have a VCDS, but am a bit of a noob at it.

Have a look on the VCDS section of this forum or contact Rockhopper.

I believe he had his DSG diesel Yeti mpg corrected.

Someone call?

Yes it can be done. My Yeti is adjusted by 10%....It is now pretty close most of the time. I fill till the pump clicks, and the let go, hold it until it clicks again and then stop. I try and use the same pump all the time. I also use V-Power.

I got over 50mpg driving to Brighton & back today, a round trip of only 84 miles. But my speed was about 60mph down the A23. I was not in a hurry.

That is not normal. I spend most of my time in congested South London where I average about 10mph.

For what to do try Gizmo68. He is amazing with VCDS. Highly recommended.

Bossfox - I have a few of the VCDS stuff in my project thread, courtesy of Gizzmo68.

Mike

Edited 10 November, 201213 yr by rockhopper

Hello Earlgrayhot and all the others,

I have the same engine and transmission as you -2000cc 140 hp dsg automatic and I have now 20000 kms on the clock. ( about 12.500 miles , if I am correct.)

I have begun checking my mpg regularly for some time now.Most of my travel is around 90-100 km/h which is about between 60 or 70 mph,correct me if i am wrong.

I do light occasional town traffic,but that is neglible as I dont go into town that much. So most of my travel is about 260 km (just under 160 miles) round trip, traffic flowing, with little or no stops on the way.Also,I may go up a hill from time to time for three or four minutes,which raises the consumption somewhat.In short,I am very fuel conserving minded,and I never have a heavy foot on the acceleration pedal.

The best I have done is between 13-14 km/liter which amounts to between 36.7 and 39.5 miles per uk gallon , on average.On one occasion I managed to squeeze out 42 mpg.

These are the figures I have achieved.

What do you say,folks?

Can I expect like Earlgreyhot that my consumption will lessen as the engine "opens up" so to speak?

Thanks

Edited 12 November, 201213 yr by oriki

It's the pedal nearest the door which causes the problem.

Last evening I cruised at 70 to the LG Arena ( Bocelli was really good) and did about 42 out and 40 back over about 60 miles each way according to the maxidot.

This morning I have been ferrying my mother about at a very gentle pace and its reading 45.

Trouble is that I like to press the one nearest the door...........and so I have to pay. I think it handles and drives so well I just enjoy it.

Which all goes to show that it all depends.....

If we were really worried about mpg, would we be buying 140/170 diesels, and even then mapping them into the stratosphere? I've been logging fuel since October 2001 over three cars and the variation (per car) have been wide; it's only where two or three unexplained poor consecutive figures have cropped up that it's been useful, in hinting at some problem.

One of those little co-incidences: I've just signed up for Fuelly - have a look at my signature, then Rockhopper's - he's driving London, I'm driving the sticks. (Note for posterity: the current comparison is 37.7 / 37.6. It'll change!)