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afternoon all :)

I know it's a long shot, but does anyone have any background info on NU60 AFZ ?

It's a black fabia MKII Vrs.

Just thought I'd ask, bearing in mind the oil consumption issues on (some of...) these.

Any help gratefully received ;)

many thanks.

Ask to see log book and make a note of previous owner+area

See if theyre on facebook and send em a very polite msg concerning the car

May seem drastic but its worked for me before and its a lot of (your) money

A nice idea and something i would do if i were looking at buying a car with a '' known '' issue..... as said, finding out after is of no real use.

Skoda UK Customer Services will tell you if you ask if the vehicle has had Warranty Work or issues.

george

Facebook is not really a good idea, especially if the name is something really generic. I imagine that if you were looking for a John Smith you'll end up emailing some random guy, so maybe you'll be lucky and get an unusual name. On the other hand getting your paws on the logbook long enough to start writing information of previous owners down is bordering on data protection issues for the dealer if you haven't actually bought the car, you have to weigh up their view of do you really need that information. Rightly or wrongly that is the way that most companies approach the issue of DP.

Skoda won't tell you a mite either, because again it isn't your car to query, and if it hasn't had any work done with them then they won't have the data anyway.

Real answer is if you don't trust the dealer, don't buy the car. You'll have your dealer warranty of whatever they give you as standard in addition to the remaining year of the Skoda warranty, so if there are any problems you'll be relying on that.

Skoda UK do tell tho,

I checked out what i bought before buying.

&

recently 2 prospective owners on here have caught out a dealership near to me misleading them on vehicles, thanks to Skoda UK.

A Skoda Dealership can tell you the vehicles service & warranty history if it is Skoda Warranty work.

& Updates etc carried out.

george

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I spoke to the dealer that supplied the car in the first place in the end;

The car has suffered dsg failure, repaired under warrenty.

Has the high oil consumption issue, which is as yet unresolved

And also suffered with a coolant leak which the previous owner tried to 'fix' by pouring in a bottle of Rad-Weld, meaning the entire system needed to be drained and refilled (not covered by warrenty)

Basically, a definite Lemon.

It's at a Toyota dealer in Bristol, so avoid at all costs :(

A Skoda Dealership can tell you the vehicles service & warranty history if it is Skoda Warranty work.

& Updates etc carried out.

That's the key factor though isn't it? If the work hasn't been done by Skoda then asking them for the information is of no use whatsoever. Personally I'd have no worries about work having been carried out by a main dealer because they need to meet certain criteria for a standard of workmanship. It's the unsanctioned work that is likely to cause problems, which you'll never know about unless the previous owner has been religious with receipts.

Sko, definitely sounds like one to avoid!! Good detective work!

*EDIT*

As the Rad-Weld 'fix' highlights, it's the work that isn't done by Skoda that will come back and bite you.

Edited by Peter-B

If Skoda UK do not know obviously they can not tell you,

hardly a reason not to ask IMO.

If it is MK2 vRS with the problem some of them are having and since the oldest models are just over 2 years old, there is a likeyhood Oil, or DSG warranty work was done under warranty.

Thert are quite a few Ex demonstrators, Press cars etc on the market & several Bought back reject cars,#

Warranty work carried out and back into the Skoda Dealership network.

Skoda UK will tell you if the car is such. But you need to ask!

Pitty they are not so open about other things, but such is life.

george

Maybe some people think that The Local Friendly (Ahem) Dealer is the same as Skoda UK? They are certainly not :D! They are franchise, they may lie, twist the facts, be dishonest just to make those sales. They may also be very forthcoming, give you all the facts, get SUK to answer all your questions without you needing to bother - all depends on a particular outfit.

I knew nothing about the dealership I was buying the car from. I got the head honcho there for a frank chat and told him that I do not them but know the industry and know how some in it screw people right left and centre for few pennies. I also told him that it will not fly with me and I'd be obliged if they didn't even think about trying anything as I have my ways (taught to me by a traffic cop friend of mine) to tell whether they are lying or not. He tried to the act of being offended but quickly dropped it and we arrived at an agreement :).

I don't for one second think that the local dealer is Skoda UK, what I'm saying is that there seems to be an over reliance on Skoda having all the facts available to them. All car dealerships are reliant on their reputation if they are going to have any kind of longevity, which is why I said the bottom line is that if you don't trust the dealer don't buy the car. In terms of knowing nothing about the dealership, if you're in that unfortunate position then ask people about the dealer's rep rather than immediately going and accuse someone of planning on lying to you before you even start. Tends to get you a much better cup of tea out of it :)

A small point on Dealerships & Dealerships reputations.

You can have a Dealership with the highest of Reputations, which is then taken over by a Larger Company/Dealership with Many outlets and a good reputation.

It still comes down sometimes to a Sales Person or Sales Executive misleading you over the vehicle being offered for sale.

It only takes one member of a Salesteam to spoil the reputation of a Dealership.

Now it happens & it happens often.

Someplace like Scotland it can be difficult to know where is going to be meeting their good reputation,

You can have to go 100 miles or more further than you want, to deal with another Large Company rather than the several nearer Dealerships.

Handy that you can get information on a vehicle from Skoda UK if they are in position to give that.

Where it is on Warranty work, they probably can give this information,

& that can be handy if you are not buying from Skoda NetworkDealerships or even from the Motor Trade.

(It is handy when they tell you how long a vehicle has been up for sale, when a salesperson is telling you it has just come in,

& it turns out it has been waiting weeks or months for parts since being returned as a Vehicle with Faults & rejected..)

Like i said before, Easy enough to ask, & if you do not ask, you might never get told.

george

I don't for one second think that the local dealer is Skoda UK, what I'm saying is that there seems to be an over reliance on Skoda having all the facts available to them. All car dealerships are reliant on their reputation if they are going to have any kind of longevity, which is why I said the bottom line is that if you don't trust the dealer don't buy the car. In terms of knowing nothing about the dealership, if you're in that unfortunate position then ask people about the dealer's rep rather than immediately going and accuse someone of planning on lying to you before you even start. Tends to get you a much better cup of tea out of it :)

I disagree, be upfront, don't beat around the bush, lay all your cards on the table and do not change your tune half way through your concerto and you will get a good rep with them if they are worth their salt. If you get puffed out cheeks, shifty looks, glazed eyes of a 1000 miles stare right through you and a general level of BS coming through then leave straight away - always saved me grief. On occasions when a deal blinded me too much and I ignored the above I ended up in no end of trouble... And even if they are no strangers to shafting customers they may think twice about doing it to me after such an opening gambit :).

Why use a middle man for getting an opinion if you can do it yourself in person?

You can have to go 100 miles or more further than you want, to deal with another Large Company rather than the several nearer Dealerships.

Handy that you can get information on a vehicle from Skoda UK if they are in position to give that.

george

Absolutely! It would be screaming mad to go half way up the country to do business with allegedly well reputed dealership. I'd rather try my way with the local ones :)

You're missing the point, what I'm saying is, if you don't trust the dealer don't buy the car - simples. Reputation goes a long way in most businesses and most of them want your repeat business. Screwing you over is not in their long term interests.

You can have a Dealership with the highest of Reputations, which is then taken over by a Larger Company/Dealership with Many outlets and a good reputation.

It still comes down sometimes to a Sales Person or Sales Executive misleading you over the vehicle being offered for sale.

It only takes one member of a Salesteam to spoil the reputation of a Dealership.

Now it happens & it happens often.

That can happen in any walk of life and frankly, if you're basing your opinion of people and salesmen on that argument then that is a horrendously unfair generalisation. I accept it does happen, but to suggest it happens "often" is rather unfair on the vast majority of people out there trying to make an honest living. The fact is you have an awful lot of legal rights when buying from a dealer, so any issues which arise you can iron out in the future. I know it's better to know about these things before hand, but sometimes these things do happen, which is why I speak of dealing with people you trust. I'm not suggesting people drive half way around the country to find reputable dealers, your position is unfortunate, but you choose to live where you do, as we all do and there are plenty of others who don't have that problem so dismissing it on the basis that it doesn't fit in with your argument doesn't really hold much water.

You can bang on about it as much as you like, Skoda UK don't have all the answers.

http://www.briskoda....ers-in-scotland

lol,

It is Scotland i live in not Outer Monolia.

As you say, 'if you can not trust them, maybe best not to deal with them.'

My 'Banging on is to say 'Just Ask, what is the harm'. If you ask and they mislead or lie you have some come back.

Yours is,

something about Reputations & they do not or can not know, which is fair enough!

It seems to me to be the same thing, after all its about Buying a Car or getting one serviced,

go where you can trust or since everyday or year can be different, 'Buyer Beware'

So more information or knowledge on the subject is or must be better.,

2 Skoda Dealerships from the same Group within 20 miles of me

& at least 7 more within 80 miles, most from 2 major Motor Groups,

but probably best to go the 90-100 miles to the ones with the proper Customer service.

(If i was to be buying from them which i am not. There are some excellent staff out there tho, obviously.)

re, SKODA,

No, they do not have all the answers, but they can have enough or some of them..

george

One example.

Least said the better sometimes.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Arnold_Clark

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