I had an inclination that there might be issues with lowering my car.

I have joms and you can lower till you slam the car, I lowered it maybe 35/40mm I did want better handling with looks.

However lower a considerable amount and I think you will make the handling worse on the road. Because the arms work on an arch you push them out in turn pushing the wheels out, camber. This results negative camber and thus alters tyres contact.

Fine if you want looks, my advise is don't lower it too much or you'll get worse handling not too mention eating the inner parts of your tyres.

You can as standard only alter toe.

I'm not trying to teach people how to suck eggs just saying when you here people say I've slammed it and it handles miles better it can't depends on what scenario and lower Centre of gravity isn't all the maters.

Not a lot you can do unless you physically alter the arms camber bolts etc. All I'm saying is bear this in mind and try and limit the effect by not lowering stupid low, there's a difference between just lowering and lowering and improving handling imo.

Edited 18 November, 201213 yr by ajs_vrs

Is there a lowering guide on the forums? Would be interesting to add this if not?

Negative camber is good for handling on the fronts. Ever watched any motorsport?

+1 negative camber is good, as tyres flex and car leans it brings in the full face of tyre to road. I would say your issue is more resting on bump stops and bouncing around a corner, or your tyres are over inflated.

Nice that your showing concern buddy and it is appreciated so dont take these comments wrong way, and for the most part it is applicable to alot of members.

cheers

Edited 18 November, 201213 yr by Lofty79

As you say, lowering is good for looks only - NOT handling.

Lowering with springs on OE dampers is the worst case. The damapers will have almost no travel left so will give a crashy ride, and the lowering will produce negative handling characteristics. Excessive coilover lowering will go into the 'bad' over-lowered zone too.

Basically a decent amount of controlled travel beats slammed. If it's 'street cruising' youre going then fine, but proper driving forget lowering

Forget lowering? I just don't understand that opinion, although I respect it as yours. But if this was the case then, take touring car champs as an example, why are they not at standard ride height? I believe the higher the centre of gravity the more unstable the vehicle. Obviously each kit will have a sweet spot, but none will be better at full height.

Imagine trying to drive a touring car on a typical UK B-Road and see how you would get on.

Rally cars (set up for normal/B-roads) have a fair amount of suspension travel

Thanks that was the intent, sure i agree I will add "some" negative camber is good but in the case of lowering too much it usually gets into the realms of having a negative affect where handing and stability is reduced.

If you drove a touring car in sure you'd kill yourself soon lol on these roads.

Ye buts lets be true full hear if somebody is going to slam there car there not gunna expect it to be amazing at handling tbh. If they want the best out of handling they'll make the correct adjustment/modification for this. As I can understand were the points in this topic are being made a race track is totally different to a road tbh. But I've lowered my car and its fairly low to be fair and it does still handle ok for how low it is. And for how low it is being the key word.....

This is just my opinion on the matter....

Cheers Sam

mines on joms lowered down as far as it goes handling is excellent imo never stepped out etc standard height it handled well i were surprised..

its rather bouncy only downfall going over a fag packet feels likeyou have hit brick but was to be expected and they sit like 4x4s standard over all i'm happy with the way it handles being right down myy helpers and adjusters are out aswell

As you say, lowering is good for looks only - NOT handling.

Lowering with springs on OE dampers is the worst case. The damapers will have almost no travel left so will give a crashy ride, and the lowering will produce negative handling characteristics. Excessive coilover lowering will go into the 'bad' over-lowered zone too.

Basically a decent amount of controlled travel beats slammed. If it's 'street cruising' youre going then fine, but proper driving forget lowering

HAHA!

I have eibach springs on OE dampers and it isnt crashy!

I also have a whiteline arb on the stiffest setting and front and rear upper strut braces and the ride is fine! Barely any worse than standard!

And as for handling? my car handles brillaint! Did you ever look at the tyres your bad handling crashy car was on? you can do all the suspension mods you want but if youve got rubbish tyres on then it wont make a difference, a good brand tyre with a medium hand sidewall/profile at the right psi will stop the crashy ride and bad handling!

Sorry but whats proper driving out of curiosity?