For clarification the Fabia II was not designed to support long life servicing. Whilst it is possible to set the computer to 2 year/ 20k intervals this is not recommended and the car should not come from the factory or dealership PDI with anything other than 1 year/10k service interval. Dealers may change it if requested but is ill advised.

For 1 year/10k servicing the car requires VW 502 000 spec oil of grade 5W/40. Castrol Edge FST Turbo Diesel 5W/40 or Quantum 5W/40 are examples of the correct oil that should be used.

VW 504 000 5W/30 spec oil is for long life servicing only but can be used for small emergency top ups if 5W/40 is unobtainable for whatever reason.

I keep seeing different answers being banded about. The above as far as I am concerned is fact and should be pinned to allow easy access to the correct info.

Cheers

Thats all nice and clear.

Then VAG went and put out vRS's with the code 'Q16'.

http://briskoda.net/...il-temperature.

What code is on the Service books/VIN plate of the Y2013 cars, out now with the latest engines?

george

Sorry I should clarify this. May only apply in the UK:-

http://www.skoda.co.uk/GBR/pages/servicing-a-skoda.aspx

Fabia and Roomsters should only be on 1 year/10k servicing despite the fact the computer can be changed to allow long life. This may have changed for 2013 but I for one wouldn't want to run one of these (particularly a TSi) on long life. Better for the low stress TDi's in my opinion

It is your term,

'for long life' that is throwing me.

do you mean 'Long Life oil' & Variable or Flexible 'servicing' & oil/filter changes?

ie, more time between Oil Changes.

I would not use my oil in a 'CAVE' Twincharger for more than 10,000 miles either

& i have had 502 & 504 spec oil in.

I certainly want the Oil filter changed at 10,000 miles.

(been doing it at less than 4,000 miles.)

But much of the official 'SKODA' info and sites can be wrong or get updated later.

(when was the one you linked published?)

Much of the 'Service Stuff' from SKODA overlooks the 'Twin Charger', when using the term 'TSi'.

I am sorry but the confusion continues IMO.

I will just stick with Oil changes at 10,000 miles or less & at 12 months at the most.

I am sure the good quality oil is good for many more miles and someone that keeps a car 3 years is quite safe,

if you have a keeper or use it hard or in some way that you want to preserve the car because 'its a keeper',

its less than the price of a tank of fuel to change the 'Oil & Filter'.

Something or some kind thinking must be behind VAG/SKODA changing the code for servicing to 'Q16' earlier on in 2012.

'QG2' it is on mine and thats how it will stay.

george

Long life/variable servicing - 2 years or 20k. UK Fabia II's (certainly up to MY13) should not be set up for this. In my mind the Fabia is largely based on the older generation PQ24 Polo platform unlike the new Polo, Ibiza and A1 which use the latest PQ25 platform. I don't think cars based on this platform were ever designed (certainly the supermini sized cars) with variable servicing in mind. Both a 08 Polo and 03 Ibiza I've owned had 1 year/10k servicing.

My vRS,new this month,has "Q16" on the service book,however the dealership have stamped the book for delivery inspection and written on it that the next service is 10k/Nov 13..."whichever comes first or according to service interval display."

When you call up the dash display this is/was also set for 10k/one year.

So,can we say that current vRS's have a 1 year/10k service interval,BUT this may be varied as LESS if the service interval display says so?

So can I use 502 oil or only 504?

Pipsyp.

I thought your concern was Engines not platforms.

I would service a car at least every year regardless of Manufacturers or others opinions.

Thats if even not doing high mileage, probably more so if not doing high mileage.

Proper Services, 'Full Service'.

looking properly at & checking and replacing, thats wheels off etc.

Brakes, Bearings, Joints, Bushes, hand brake cables etc etc checked & maintained.

Oil Change Services,

to me that is 'Oil Changes',& a bit of a glance over, if that. Doing stuff the Driver should be checking regularly anyway.

the term 'Service' should not even come into it really.

Oiling Door Hinges & topping up Washer bottles,tyres looked at and pressures checked,

changing a Pollon Filter & Oil & Filter are not 'a Service' IMO.

Terms 'Oil Change Service' & Inspection Service',

just confuse, as does 'Variable' & Flexible'. JMO.

george

OK...

When mine came straight from the dealer, I checked the service interval on the dash and it wants one at 18.5k (or thereabouts). Still says the same (4k to go).

My last car, A Scirocco with (basically) the same engine was set to the Longlife servicing as well - 18.5k intervals.

All well and good. My driving isn't the killer of oil quality (lots of cold, short trips) - every other time the engine is started, it gets fully up to temp (be it 20 or 300 miles) - hence why the Longlife schedule works for mine,

Sorry George I'm basically saying that the car itself wasn't designed with the 2 year/20k variable (sometimes referred to as long life) servicing in mind and should really be set to 1 year/10k in all cases. Its not just the engine, its all the other componentry on the car too.

To conclude all Fabia II's should be on 1 year/10k (QG2) fixed servicing. Also use 5W/40 oil as per the fixed servicing requirements.

5W/30 is not the correct oil for fixed servicing, it is meant for variable/long life servicing

Sorry George I'm basically saying that the car itself wasn't designed with the 2 year/20k variable (sometimes referred to as long life) servicing in mind and should really be set to 1 year/10k in all cases. Its not just the engine, its all the other componentry on the car too.

To conclude all Fabia II's should be on 1 year/10k (QG2) fixed servicing. Also use 5W/40 oil as per the fixed servicing requirements.

5W/30 is not the correct oil for fixed servicing, it is meant for variable/long life servicing

Best tell Skoda then.

Mine will be having its first 18.5k service with just 6 months under its belt - and runs 5W30. Hows that work then?

I also run 5w 30 i put in, from getting the car after a Skoda Dealership had rebuilt the engine and put it out with 'too much oil in.'

(I dropped that and used it for something else.)

Put the car into another Skoda Dealership for a 20,000 miles service when 2 years old and got it back with Quantum & not enough oil added.

** No stamp in the Service Book & the SErvice on the Computer not re-set.**

(dropped that again & refilled myself with 5w 30)

Just dropped that,

& this time its got 5w 40 in.

car has just 15,000 miles covered from new.

Engine 11,000 miles from rebuild.

Luckily and with no real thanks to Skoda Dealerships other than the Engine Rebuild,

it does not use oil.

As Important than what oil is used,

is check the level yourself as it drives out a Skoda Workshop. JMO.

It will get a MOT one month before the Warranty is out.

Plugs are already changed, Brake Fluid is changed & air Filter.

Skoda Servicing is about Money for Skoda Workshops

& not anything to do with customer wishes or vehicle good running. Again JMO.

3 years before the wheels come off unless you requested that, is just a joke.

But a Pollen filter is changed at 2 years old, regrdless of miles done or location of use.

george

I appreciate all the statements here and I'm not trying to contradict anyone. But, if a 5W/30 oil can last for up to 20k miles, why is it not suitable for an engine on fixed 10k intervals? I would assume the opposite to be true as, common sense says that, if a certain oil is designed for 10k intervals, it wouldn't obviously be wise to use in a car on 20k/variable intervals.

At any rate, I myself have been doing an extra oil change (including filter) in between the dealer services, i.e. @ 15k - 25k - 35k and so on. I have been using Castrol Edge FST 5W30 (504 spec) without any problems whatsoever and I intend to use this oil for the rest of the car's life, especially now that the warranty is over and I won't be visiting the dealer anymore, so will be doing everything myself. Been checking the oil level religiously, and it has never moved down AT ALL. At the same time, with my car's engine, when I undo the oil filler cap, I can see straight at the camshaft, and there is virtually no deposits whatsoever, the car now having covered 41k.

I understand that the majority of you have the vrs, which is on the opposite end of the fabia range compared to mine, but since this is a FABIA II thread, I thought I'd share my experiences regarding engine oil.

And just to add to George's post above, my dealer has overfilled mine twice, to the point where I had to drain some oil out (was an inch over max on the dipstick). Very wise move indeed to check the level as soon as you get home after a service. Some (if not all) of the grease monkeys they have are utterly useless.

Who is it that says 5w 30 is not suitable for using in the engine and then changing at only 10,000 miles.?

You can safely use 5w 30 fully synthetic and change it sooner.

george

My vRS,new this month,has "Q16" on the service book,however the dealership have stamped the book for delivery inspection and written on it that the next service is 10k/Nov 13..."whichever comes first or according to service interval display."

When you call up the dash display this is/was also set for 10k/one year.

So,can we say that current vRS's have a 1 year/10k service interval,BUT this may be varied as LESS if the service interval display says so?

So can I use 502 oil or only 504?

Same here, "Q16" Variable Servicing Schedule.

As for oils see your handbook and will tell you which VW 5xx xx oil spec should it be.

For clarification the Fabia II was not designed to support long life servicing. Whilst it is possible to set the computer to 2 year/ 20k intervals this is not recommended and the car should not come from the factory or dealership PDI with anything other than 1 year/10k service interval. Dealers may change it if requested but is ill advised.

For 1 year/10k servicing the car requires VW 502 000 spec oil of grade 5W/40. Castrol Edge FST Turbo Diesel 5W/40 or Quantum 5W/40 are examples of the correct oil that should be used.

VW 504 000 5W/30 spec oil is for long life servicing only but can be used for small emergency top ups if 5W/40 is unobtainable for whatever reason.

I keep seeing different answers being banded about. The above as far as I am concerned is fact and should be pinned to allow easy access to the correct info.

Cheers

502 oil spec is far inferior to 504 hence 504 is recommended for vRS Fabias. I am yet to see Fabia vRS with fixed service interval. There are no 5W40 engine oils with VW 504 00 approval. However, members here used 5W40 without reported problems. This oil may help engines experiencing high oil consumption

Haha I've started something here haven't I sorry guys just trying to be helpful for those who keep querying oil to use etc.

I can't speak for the newer 2013 cars but I'm confortable saying that earlier vRS's and I'm sure every other Fabia II petrol or diesel is intended to be run on 1 year/10k service intervals and use 5W/40 oil, its what Skoda UK advise and the handbook in mine says much the same.

I'm not denying that some cars have been set up for 2 year/20k servicing but I suspect this is largely factory/dealer error and isn't the right servicing regime for the Fabia II before the 2013MY, certainly not in the UK in any case.

Again I can't see 5W/30 oil damaging the car as it'll no doubt be in better shape after 10k than the 5W/40 but I'd rather follow Skoda's advise; they'll only use it against you where they can (warranty claims etc) if you choose to do things differently.

Fabia II vRS November 2012 - Flexible Servicing Schedule, Oil VW 504 00 5W30. That's what sould be used in 1.4 TSi Twincharged Fabias.

Unless you have your car stamped with fixed service using 5W40 may lead to the loss of warranty.

Every engine which has a DPF ie all current CR diesel engines require 5/30 longlife irrespective of wether they are on longlife or 10k intervals,confirmed by that page of manual 507.00 is longlife oil.

For the vRS it's best to use VW spec 504 5w30 and get it 'serviced' at the dealers every 12months/10k (whichever sooner)...... End of. ;-)

Just checked my car status and it says next service in15.2k miles or 624 days so two years for me then

507 oil is currently the highest spec VW certificate but not for petrol cars

Try www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/content/owners/Longlife_servicing.pdf

To me it would be more honest & understandable if the said, Interval to 'Oil & Filter Change' & look over the car,

& stop saying or calling them 'Services'.

Its about the 'Oil' only.'Oil that is supposed to be good for 12 months and Oil that is good for longer. Thats just nonesense IMO.

People that never check their own cars are running about for 18 -24 months or longer with cars that have never been 'Checked over',

Many cars get looked at for their first time since the PDI @ 3 years old.

george

To me it would be more honest & understandable if the said, Interval to 'Oil & Filter Change' & look over the car,

& stop saying or calling them 'Services'.

Its about the 'Oil' only.'Oil that is supposed to be good for 12 months and Oil that is good for longer. Thats just nonesense IMO.

People that never check their own cars are running about for 18 -24 months or longer with cars that have never been 'Checked over',

Many cars get looked at for their first time since the PDI @ 3 years old.

george

I guess they refer to all scheduled maintenance as a "service" to keep things simple for the less mechanically-minded customer.

Buy new car.... take it to dealer once a year and let them do whatever required........ if car breaks get fixed under warranty....... Simples!

Varying from this may of course invalidate warranty etc. Tis very annoying tho if when you are paying for a first "service" and it costs you £££ and then you look on the "job sheet" and the only thing they've physically done is change oil/filter! Lol

Since I paid the £99 for 3 years servicing all in I can't say I'm too bothered this time around hehe! :-)

All cars from factory except Citigo now come set to variable (or flexible as its now called) servicing.

With respect, I think that this thread is only serving to confuse things even more.