My mistake - was thinking about my other car which has those hideous LED things.

Lights fuse...and stands back - a long way back!

LED rear tail/brake lights illuminate faster, use less energy, produce less heat and have a much longer service life.

It is also possible to create the same light output with LED's but over a smaller surface area that allows manufacturers to be a little more creative with their design and free's up space at the rear of the car for wider boot apertures etc.

Some manufacturers (Vauxhall) also charge extra for LED rear lights so I'm guessing they've done their reseach and discovered that some customers will see them as desirable (in the same way as xenon headlight's and LED DRL's).

Perhaps I'm vain but I think they look cool. There are some poorly thought out designs (Audi placing the indicator inside a circuit of red LED's which masks the indicator when the brake lights are illuminated) and I'm sure this thread will eventually end up with the usual argument discussion on how LED's have the ability to burn retina's at 50 metres, how inconsiderate it is to keep your foot on the brake in stop-start traffic and how the rear foglights mask the brake lights etc.

What is your 'other car' by the way?

Edited 29 November, 201213 yr by silver1011

LED rear tail/brake lights illuminate faster, use less energy, produce less heat and have a much longer service life.

Yeah but are they worth eight hundred quid though?

Haha, that depends on who you ask

Ohhhhhhhhh! You just couldn't resist the bait could you?

Actually I don't mind the lights, if they are indeed LEDs, especially as I rarely follow my own car (allroad by the way - and NO - I categorically didn't want Xenons on it so don't have them).

Can't stand those "Time Tunnel" (who remembers that?) rear lights on BMWs or "Lexus lights" either. Just reminds me of The Blackout Crew's "Donkamatic" ;-)

I find it slightly unsettling to drive at night with some other guys LED taillights in front of me. It isn't a big deal, but I prefer incandescent in that situation, actually. Otherwise I'm a huge fan of LED (and xenons. )

And tail lights producing heat is a good thing. It keeps them de-iced in winter. LED, not so much.

Ohhhhhhhhh! You just couldn't resist the bait could you?

Actually I don't mind the lights, if they are indeed LEDs, especially as I rarely follow my own car (allroad by the way - and NO - I categorically didn't want Xenons on it so don't have them).

Can't stand those "Time Tunnel" (who remembers that?) rear lights on BMWs or "Lexus lights" either. Just reminds me of The Blackout Crew's "Donkamatic" ;-)

Well it would have been a bit of a pointless thread if no one replied now wouldn't it!?

It is possible to retrofit the incandescent rear light clusters to your Audi Allroad. You'll probably get a good price on eBay for your LED clusters too.

LED rear tail/brake lights illuminate faster, use less energy, produce less heat and have a much longer service life.

So how come I have an LED out in my high level break light but have never had to replace a break/tail bulb :-(

Who's to say its the LED that has failed, it might be the wiring or circuit board..?

LED lights can fail, ask most jag xf drivers. Recalled many for failing LEDs.

Some new motors are going LED on the front now, making xenons old technology, what next lasers?

Just look at any SEAT Leon.

I don't think I've yet to see one with both circles of LED's working properly.

I think there must be cheap LED's and more expensive better quality LED's.

Yeah but are they worth eight hundred quid though?

Am fairly sure Brimma didn't pay £800 for his........

https://www.dectane.de/index.php?cat=c116_Taillights-SKODA.html

(nothing like doing a bit of research, is there? :| )

no he dident but it dose state they will only fit combi (estate)

https://www.dectane.de/RUeCKLEUCHTEN/Rueckleuchten-SKODA/LITEC-LED-Rueckleuchten-Skoda-Octavia-1Z-08----red-crystal.html?XTCsid=cdbda25150a8c24329f6a1e06edcc8e7

The Audi A8 D3 variant came with optional LED rear lamp clusters, they have been proven to be totally unreliable. On the A8 forum, members have been stumping up large sums of money to replace entire clusters to get through MOT tests due to failed LEDs within the cluster. Failure in these cases have been caused by condensation build up causing corrosion within the cluster which cannot be disamatled, partly because the clusters run so cool that moisture never gets a chance to be removed through evaporation.

I prefer conventional bulbs, at least if if blows you spend a couple of quid to change the bulb, instead of 200 or more to replace an entire cluster.

Am fairly sure Brimma didn't pay £800 for his........

https://www.dectane....ghts-SKODA.html

(nothing like doing a bit of research, is there? :| )

I suspect you missed the point.

I believe this was related to the rather lengthy and controversial xenon headlight thread.

The Audi A8 D3 variant came with optional LED rear lamp clusters, they have been proven to be totally unreliable.

You say they were optional? I don't think I've seen one without LED's..?

I suspect you missed the point.

I did, trust me ;)

I believe this was related to the rather lengthy and controversial xenon headlight thread.

It is. I suspect it's another thread where there will be cry's of "troll troll" ;)

Probably why this is in the OP......

Lights fuse...and stands back - a long way back!

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I prefer conventional bulbs, at least if if blows you spend a couple of quid to change the bulb, instead of 200 or more to replace an entire cluster.

A single filament failure renders the light ineffective. A single LED failure doesn't. Quite a useful thing on brake lights I would imagine

,,,,,but it dose state they will only fit combi (estate)

I seem to recall that it has been said somewhere in the original thread that they were working on the hatchback version.

Additional:

sklep.motohid.pl/pl/p/OEM-Skod­a-Octavia-lampy-LED-liftback-F­L-/279?

..........anyone translate Polish?

Doesn't look like it's "full" LED as the indicator (and the reverse, although not shown active) look to be filament.

LED rear tail/brake lights illuminate faster, use less energy, produce less heat and have a much longer service life.

whoo super reply around 0.2 seconds faster

and another plus is they are less sensitive to bumps and vibrations

whoo super reply around 0.2 seconds faster.

Which at 80mph is 35.76 metres per second.

Or an extra 7.2 meters of braking distance.

Not to be sniffed at, every little helps.

You can get what look like standard bulbs but fitted with LEDs, form flebay, but until Brimma, Mannyo or Mike H comes up with a solution of how to stop the dash warning they will not do