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As the title suggests really, as for the door carrier that was to be expected but I've only just noticed it, drove 180 miles yesterday / today with air con and foot heaters on full whack to get the carpet dried out, just need to find time. (Which I don't have :( ) to seal up the carrier. Bottom of the door card is **** wet!

Then to add the cherry to the cake, my rear wiper has recently become very hormonal, sometimes it'll be absolutely fine, then it's all of the sudden doing what ever the **** it wants to! Usually going on its own accord, and I cannot turn the damned thing off! What I've noticed is that when I open the boot when it's raining or has been raining, the rubber bumper things start ****ing water out and also out of the top of the boot door card, onto the parcel shelf and back seat.

Now that's the one that's confusing me, most likely cause?

Temporary quick fix for the door. If it's the front door undo the 3 screws holding the door card and pull the card away to disengage the 1st clip on each side. Cut a piece of polythene sheet just over the length of the door card and push up behind the card as far up as you can go. Make sure that there is sufficient hanging below the door card so the water runs down the sheet and out instead of going onto the door seal. Push the door card back on to the door then do up the screws. Back doors are similar but it's all clips and more fun (I don't think).

Look back a few pages of threads, leaks of some kind are common and there was one discussing the very boot thing.

Fortunately I don't really have a major boot thing but do seem to get water just sitting on the rear door seals which is manageable

As the title suggests really, as for the door carrier that was to be expected but I've only just noticed it, drove 180 miles yesterday / today with air con and foot heaters on full whack to get the carpet dried out, just need to find time. (Which I don't have :( ) to seal up the carrier. Bottom of the door card is **** wet!

Then to add the cherry to the cake, my rear wiper has recently become very hormonal, sometimes it'll be absolutely fine, then it's all of the sudden doing what ever the **** it wants to! Usually going on its own accord, and I cannot turn the damned thing off! What I've noticed is that when I open the boot when it's raining or has been raining, the rubber bumper things start ****ing water out and also out of the top of the boot door card, onto the parcel shelf and back seat.

Now that's the one that's confusing me, most likely cause?

If you think about what you've posted, then imagine you were being told that from someone who expected help from you, would you be keen? Words like "rubber bumper things" don't describe anything, do they? If you don't know what they are called, I'd suggest you do a little research, minimise the bluster & "how much I've been put-out" gripes and help us to help you?From your description, you know what is wrong with the doors, so that's done.As for the hatchback (saloons have boots, hatch-backed cars have hatchbacks). From your profile pic, yours is a hatchback. You describe it as wet and your rear screen wiper is erratic and self-operating? The two are most likely connected, suggesting the water is causing a short-circuit in the electrics, which has the effect of operating the wiper. Until the source(s) of the wetness are found, it would be very hard to diagnose such a fault. If the car can be dried out, it may well stop the wiper issue and this will prove/disprove the water as a cause. You may well have a leak through the wiper mechanism & I'd suggest checking that first.I sympathise with you about "finding the time" to allocate to the car's issues but ultimately, it's up to you...leave it & put up with it or re-prioritise and devote time to trouble-shooting the issue(s).In the short term, why not take the fuse (10 Amp, number 32) which protects the rear-wiper circuit out and that will stop the self-operation?

If you think about what you've posted, then imagine you were being told that from someone who expected help from you, would you be keen? Words like "rubber bumper things" don't describe anything, do they? If you don't know what they are called, I'd suggest you do a little research, minimise the bluster & "how much I've been put-out" gripes and help us to help you?From your description, you know what is wrong with the doors, so that's done.As for the hatchback (saloons have boots, hatch-backed cars have hatchbacks). From your profile pic, yours is a hatchback. You describe it as wet and your rear screen wiper is erratic and self-operating? The two are most likely connected, suggesting the water is causing a short-circuit in the electrics, which has the effect of operating the wiper. Until the source(s) of the wetness are found, it would be very hard to diagnose such a fault. If the car can be dried out, it may well stop the wiper issue and this will prove/disprove the water as a cause. You may well have a leak through the wiper mechanism & I'd suggest checking that first.I sympathise with you about "finding the time" to allocate to the car's issues but ultimately, it's up to you...leave it & put up with it or re-prioritise and devote time to trouble-shooting the issue(s).In the short term, why not take the fuse (10 Amp, number 32) which protects the rear-wiper circuit out and that will stop the self-operation?

gt-cri.

Strangely enough you seemed to have managed to understand the problem from what was written by Goblin and provided some answers. Considering some of the descriptions of problems on this forum his was quite erudite and concise.

Some of the older members on here would refer to a hatch as a boot as that was the generic term for the bit that opens at the back of the car, There is absolutely no reason to be rude, if you don't like somebody's post don't reply to it if you can't be polite,

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All I can say to gt-cri, is that I'm really sorry that I didn't put it all quite as let's say, well informed for your personal reading.

As stated previously though, your post is actually quite informative to the issue and has been helpful to me. However, I am aware that six and two threes do make up the same figure, so yes, I understand that the water getting in the boot is most likely to be causing the wiper issue, as I'm sure most people on here can grasp too. I was more aiming for where the leak is coming from. I'll edit the op and put that in though ;)

As for the fuse, as much as removing it is a good idea, I do a lot of motorway miles, not being able to see what's behind me really ain't an option. The door mirrors are adequate, but don't quite cover the registration number of the Vectra stuck to my tail.

Its really a bad time of year to be doing anything to fix the doors unless you have a garage to give it a good chance to get really dry.

The boot is something else and frankly I think you would be best to actually get it apart to take a look what is going on, nothing an internet forum can help you do to be frankly honest. Some things just need you to look at face value and I'm sure leaks fit into that category as my car might leak but another could be fine.

If its a common fault then I haven't experienced it on mine or read about it as a common issue, although if you page back to up to a week or two ago I'm sure someone mentioned something very similar, like I already said. I don't know if you can gleam anything from what they said or find out who they are and PM them to ask what they found ?

Mine doesn't suffer badly but I still use my heater/aircon ALL the time on heat, this time of year. It can be harsh on face setting so set it to the feet blower and leave it.

Have you tried that ?

It could help shift some of the moisture at least which is at least better than nothing.

Mine isn't perfect either,

another quick bodge is newspapers under the passenger footwell mats.

As its very easy to replace a newspaper with a dry one.

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Its really a bad time of year to be doing anything to fix the doors unless you have a garage to give it a good chance to get really dry.

The boot is something else and frankly I think you would be best to actually get it apart to take a look what is going on, nothing an internet forum can help you do to be frankly honest. Some things just need you to look at face value and I'm sure leaks fit into that category as my car might leak but another could be fine.

If its a common fault then I haven't experienced it on mine or read about it as a common issue, although if you page back to up to a week or two ago I'm sure someone mentioned something very similar, like I already said. I don't know if you can gleam anything from what they said or find out who they are and PM them to ask what they found ?

Mine doesn't suffer badly but I still use my heater/aircon ALL the time on heat, this time of year. It can be harsh on face setting so set it to the feet blower and leave it.

Have you tried that ?

It could help shift some of the moisture at least which is at least better than nothing.

Mine isn't perfect either,

another quick bodge is newspapers under the passenger footwell mats.

As its very easy to replace a newspaper with a dry one.

Fortunately, at my flat its parked underground which is quite handy and probably why I never noticed the leak, as at home this week it's been outdoors.

I've had a quick look around regarding the boot, going to do some more digging tonight, I recall seeing something but I also remember it going into the boot itself, not the tailgate lid. I'll double check it though.

As for the foot heater, already done that one, 200 miles on full whack. My feet were burning :D seems to have shifted the majority of it though, until this morning when I was back to square one. Cheers for the news paper tip though, I'll presume flyers are just as good? I get them for free in the post :p

See how everybody suddenly upped their game & started using descriptive words and more suitable language there? :giggle:

Sometimes, it takes a little straight talk to sharpen the focus...I've learned that over the years and while it doesn't necessarilly make you popular, it helps to concentrate the minds a little.

Forums are crap for requesting help on issues such as these, as the threads wander all over the place, unless they are kept tight.

Job done! :happy:

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There we go, tight as a nun :D

There we go, tight as a nun :D

Not the words I would use:- sanctimonious t**t.

Not the words I would use:- sanctimonious t**t.

Aw, bless 'im, he'll sleep tonight! :love: :rofl: :love:

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:D

To the OP...

You have just discovered two well known flaults with the Fabia MKI model

1. the rear washer nozzle brass tube ages and siezes solid..or partly....and sometimes rotates with the wiper arm...........there is a known repair kit fro the Fabia £5 ish from the dealers........and it sounds like the washer tube has partly come away from the brass tube and it soaks the inside of the tailgate.........

Linky to a good old post/tread on this....

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/130479-huzzah-my-rear-wiper-jet-no-longer-rotates-with-the-arm/

2. the rear doors mainly (also the fronts).....the stupid foam seal that fails to seal the steel window carrier plate against the door structure............involves removing the fixings and pivoting up the inner door trims....and then emoving the screwsfrom the carrier and movinging away at the bottom about 2cm and then removing the foam seal and use a proper silicone type sealent............or if you have rivets just seal everything insitu with sealent!

Linky...

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/2158-warning-fabia-door-leaks/page__st__540

B)

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Cheers for that :) I've actually just come back from doing to investigating whilst I've had some spare time. First things first the jet moving with the wiper isn't an issue, it stays straight and true :) (though I'll presume my mum's Polo ain't meant to do it!)

It's had some time to dry out and I've got the back panel off, had a look around, there's a bit of damp in the boot lid but no puddles, I'll presume when I open it the water that comes out of the two rubbers means the drain holes are doing their job! What I did notice is that when I had it open, at the top of the panel (bottom of the tailgate glass) where it effectively meets what could be classed as the C pillar when shut (or the bit where the trim goes up the side of the glass), there's a split where the trim goes into separate pieces, it was dribbling from there on the near side, and that was the side where I noticed more moisture.

Checked connections, all dry, no corrosion or anything. And when I want it to come on with the stalk, no issues, screen wash works fine too, it's just stopping the damn thing, and it also does it on it's own accord. Also, for the record, yes I have no problems with it coming on when I go for reverse when the fronts are on, though again stopping it can be questionable. Sometimes I have no problem at all though. I've noticed it becoming more common, it eventually stops on its own, but it is taking longer.

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