I have seen a few posts about fuel and other things, and this product comes up a lot, i have found it on ebay for £20.00, but why would i need to use it ? I have a 2 year old 1.6CR 75BHP Elegance with just over 7k on the clock.

Also are there other products similar to this, and do they do the same things. Ta.

Additives arent required with any fuel really.

Most cars produced by skoda are more than able to deal with your average fuel from any place you choose.

All the time ive been driving ive never had an issue with fuel used (normally using the cheaper (non premium fuels) from various sources)

The one time i tried using additives was in a 1.1 saxo a few years back and never noticed any effect. So never bothered.

Look at what That additive does id work out wether it worth just using BP ultimate as bp claims it cleans and protects

I've always been curious as to what would happen if you used premium 97/98/99 Ron fuel and then used an octane booster!?

But to be honest I don't think there are many products that will do much, and if something were to go wrong with the engine after you'd used an additive, I can't imagine the warranty would be worth much!

I've always been curious as to what would happen if you used premium 97/98/99 Ron fuel and then used an octane booster!?

But to be honest I don't think there are many products that will do much, and if something were to go wrong with the engine after you'd used an additive, I can't imagine the warranty would be worth much!

I've run 102 octane fuel (in europe, normally available at service stations) in the vRS to amazing effect.. you could really tell how well it was running!

To be really honest, if all of these things were so good, do you really think they would be sold as aftermarket additives? They would be snapped up by the oil companies and used as part of the marketing programme for their own fuels.

I appreciate that there are going to be some people who will disagree with me but ultimately face the facts.

It is rare for these products to be subjected to extensive test programme, certainly nothing like something one of the majors or leading additive manufacturers would undertake. The majors all have reputations to keep, your general snake oil salesman does not so he can sell you anything as ultimately you take all the risk.

This is my view on the subject.

Fifth Gear 'snake oil' test from 2008.

For a diesel either use shell v-power diesel or any other top end diesel....or use Millers Oil "ecomax"

http://www.millersoils.co.uk/automotive/road-car-fuel-treatments-additives.asp

All the additaves do is give you a much better lubricant, corrosion protection, detergent etc package than the cheap fuels have........

So either use top end fuel.........................or use cheap fuel and the Millers stuff to compensate!

Re: DG244 diesel additive/cleaner

 

I know it's a reply to an old post, but:

 

My Iveco 35S12 XLWB has been running rough at times, sometimes taking a while to start and having lumpy tickover, with loss of power and the EDC (emissions diesel control) red light flashing on the dash.

 

It does not do many miles, gets topped up every month (so old fuel remains in tank) and I've been running it on supermarket fuel.  It never gets a hot run as it is used very locally for a few minutes at a time only and never gets a long run.   The other day I got it hot on the first long run this year and it lost power, EDC light on, poor running, odd tickover etc so I had to do something.

 

After seeing positive reviews for the DG244 additive, I bought 2 cans off ebay for £42 inc postage and poured it into a full tank of diesel.

 

20 miles later, problems solved.

50 miles later, running like new with huge plus in performance

100 miles later, starts instantly, no repeat of issues

 

Worked brilliantly for me, great vale for what it did, especially as I was told it was a faulty injector and/or EGR valve with huge cost to repair.

Additives/injector cleaning agents are good on vehicles like described in mender's post. What they do is help to remove deposits. Sometimes however it might be detrimental. If carbonaceous deposits are large and break free in large chunks they can destroy the valves, pistons, bores, rings - choose your pick:). Key is to remove deposits slowly by dissolving them and breaking them apart.

Problem with "snake oil" salesmen is, as JerryT mentioned, they do not have R&D departments able to afford thorough testing on numerous engines in different conditions. If something goes wrong they simply go bankrupt and two weeks later sell the same product under different name . 

To be really honest, if all of these things were so good, do you really think they would be sold as aftermarket additives? They would be snapped up by the oil companies and used as part of the marketing programme for their own fuels.

I appreciate that there are going to be some people who will disagree with me but ultimately face the facts.

It is rare for these products to be subjected to extensive test programme, certainly nothing like something one of the majors or leading additive manufacturers would undertake. The majors all have reputations to keep, your general snake oil salesman does not so he can sell you anything as ultimately you take all the risk.

This is my view on the subject.

 

I thought this was an octane booster or something after reading previous posts, guess i was wrong.

 

completely agree 102%!!

 

 

a friend has his nissan mapped for 99 ron only, but we could only get 95 this one time, we only put £30 in it, back when fuel was <99p (oh the days :( ) it literally ran like a bag of spanners, and was detting quite bad,

we poured a COUPLE of these in the fuel tank, it made it drive a little bit better, enough that his engine didnt suffer any damage on the drive home.

 

so imo, they do work, but not by what they claim, and i would never ever go out of my way to waste any of my hard earned on them.

Edited 22 July, 201411 yr by matthewl

This stuff is highly recommended on many of the BMW Mini forums. The 1.6 direct injection turbo unit benefits from regular use of this - allegedly.

 

Far from proven - but those using it at regular intervals have claimed to avoid the severe coking issues others have seen on this engine.

 

Some other products also get mentions such as Seafoam additive. You can find more detail on the Mini forums.

I have seen a few posts about fuel and other things, and this product comes up a lot, i have found it on ebay for £20.00, but why would i need to use it ? I have a 2 year old 1.6CR 75BHP Elegance with just over 7k on the clock.

Also are there other products similar to this, and do they do the same things. Ta.

 

Hi Hudson. It's unlikely you would notice much difference on your car yet if you used BG244. The engine won't be encrusted with carbon or anything like that yet.  But BG244 is a great product and used in the trade by techs and in my old engine R&D department. It is designed to clean the engine of carbon and dirt in the fuel system. It is not an octane booster or cetane booster (for diesels). It works full stop. But don't take too much notice of some of the stuff being bandied about in this thread by some who may have misunderstood the question and don't know the difference between the different additives. No disrespect to anyone meant.  And certainly don't take any notice of the 5th Gear testing, which is a bit misleading and well out of date. As Vicky H says, "you may notice a difference on more modern engines". I can confirm you would do as we use some of these products in testing on petrol engines. And remember those products being tested on 5th gear are for PETROL engines, not diesel. And although one or two of them have a small cleaning element in them, that's far from their primary purpose, which is too boost the octane rating of your petrol fuel. That's quite different and it's no surprise that it resulted in a 2% drop in power on a 'K' series Rover engine. That's not news and is what anyone in the trade would expect. The K series is old and cannot adapt to increased octane ratings by more that a tiny little bit. On modern engines it's already established that octane boosters work really well, but are of no interest to you as you cannot use those products in your diesel. Although a CETANE booster is available for diesels, it just isn't required and could be dangerous in your car. One other point. Know one should be using an octane booster in this country as the correct octane fuels are available. It's useful to carry some abroad though as some parts of europe don't get all the ratings and if you drive a high performance car, it's needed. Putting it in cars that don't need it can actually increase carbon build up on exhaust valves and ports. Not good. 

Edited 23 July, 201411 yr by Estate Man

Just to add my view, I have used a bottle of millers ecomax through my car over the course of a couple of months, I can confirm i have only noticed an increase in MPG by approx 3-5, ( Could be me adapting my driving style to the car, placebo effect, Strong south wind )

 

But at no point has there been any gain in performance, so in my view i wont be spending another £15 on a bottle of anything, just stick to premium brand fuels ( Shell,BP )

 

That is all :p

In diesels you need those cleaning agents when you notice there's a problem, like high fuel consumption, clouds of black smoke behind you on acceleration and lack of power.

£15 would be much better spent on changiong your air filter every 6 months - very noticeable gains!

Yeah, luckily my little engine is a cracker, uses no oil or water, all filters are new, achieves 60-70MPG and the engine itself is spotless!

Shame it might have to go soon, I'll miss it.

Agree with above, if all is running sweet then you won't see any change.