We could do this http://www.telegraph...lice-chief.html

He's only suggesting that so that the police will have an excuse to drive even faster ;)

He's only suggesting that so that the police will have an excuse to drive even faster ;)

Fuel prices have slowed down the motorways more than any policing could have.

A decade ago 85-90mph was the norm on a free flowing motorway, now I find the majority stick to 70-80mph with a large proportion sticking to 70mph or less.

Those flying down the outside lane nearly always have a fuel card, private commuters I'm sure limit their speed to cut down on fuel consumption.

Cheers

Lee

I liked the shows they gave to a load of young people about speed. They need hard-hitting stuff like that, anything to make young people take driving seriously. I don't think there should be restrictions on young people once they pass their test. I do think the test should be a lot tougher, incorporating speed awareness courses, car control, skidpan type of thing, and more hours on all roads (including motorways) before they can get a full license.

I thought the shows looked well presented as well giving an initial feel that would appeal to the teenagers but then rather having someone preaching to them instead they had the far more hard hitting stories of parents who'd lost their children through driving accidents which appeared to have quite an impact on the teenagers.

I thought the program was generally good particularly the presenter who came across as pretty honest particularly with blaming herself and no-one else for her crash. It didn't come across as saying all young drivers are bad, more that there are a lot of young drivers involved in serious crashes so looking into why that it is and how to reduce those crashes. It was certainly a vastly better program than the terrible Barely Legal Drivers they've been showing which they claim is meant to have useful tips for young drivers but is clearly not the case at all.

John

Caught this on iplayer the other day. quite a good show and as has been said quite thought provoking. The presentation to kids, shown at the end, seems like a really good idea hopefully it will get some national backing and get rolled out elsewhere, much like Bikesafe has, although that is a different target audience. Not sure why the automatic assumption seemed to be to limit new drivers speed, surely limiting the power of the car they drive (as already done on bikes) would be a better option.

I'm not sure limiting the power would really make that much difference, the car the lady that presented the show crashed in looked a low power one and so was the car where the girl had killed her boyfriend. Also bikes are very different in that you can buy and run a bike with near supercar performance for surprisingly little money putting them in reach of many riders whereas the purchase cost and then running costs on high performance supercars puts them well out of reach of most drivers so the bikes really need a limit on power. The 33bhp limitation that used to be on bikes (I think it's changed recently) may not sound like much but on a motorbike that's still quick in car terms.

John

I think the bike system now is almost spot on. Lots of hoops to jump through before you can get to a big bike test where you need to pass a Mod 1 and Mod 2. I waited until I was 24 to do my test to see if I still wanted to do it and after CBT I did. All my instructors were spot on. All current police or ex police.

On Top Gear before in Finland it takes two years to get a full licence. A friend of mine lives over there and says it doesn't stop accidents and lots drive like rally drivers everywhere.