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Brisk driving on winter roads

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Not sure about his gloves, rather old school, but his driving I did like! Not skodding, no broken traction on acceleration, good low grip lines - all on public roads in CZ.

lol the wee 1.2 hauls ass!

I see regularly drivers on the roads in winter that drive like that.

I prefer where they can keep their vehicle in control on their own side of the road in their own lane and not in the path of on coming vehicles.

that impresses me more where they can and do.

Much more difficult to drive neatly and safely on bends and frozen roads when confined to a single lane and not using the width of a Public Road like you would on a Race Track.

george

I agree with George.

Quite poor driving IMO. And a bit "skitty" with the wheel.

Meh that's just commuting up here.

Sausages! Definite knowledge of the road. One spot of black ice and he'd be a goner, and deservedly so. :no:

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I think he must have known the roads pretty well. Still, listening to the engine he was certainly not being gentle with the throttle! I've driven similar roads many times and even with an intimate knowledge of the place it is still really difficult to drive like that at full pelt winter time. Compared with pathetic showings of some motoring press journos while testing cars like the new Clio that was masterclass. Not the vid was edited and not continuous. Also all the stages of the road we saw on that vid had very good distance visibility and were not "risky". The feel for the grip and car control were very good IMHO.

A bit violent with the gear changes, but apart from that, he's got some skills :rock:

Also all the stages of the road we saw on that vid had very good distance visibility and were not "risky". The feel for the grip and car control were very good IMHO.

REALLY? Going around bends on the wrong side?

Also I like how you can tell he had good feel for grip and car control in a heavily edited video. It was poor in my opinion.

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Everybody is entitled to their own opinions :).

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George, I'd agree with keeping yo your side of the road- after all it makes the "available track" narrower and therefore limits the speed through corners preventing you to "unwind" the steering earlier or "reduce the curve" of the road limiting exit speeds. The higher the steering lock the more available grip is being used to combat increased lateral forces leaving less for braking/acceleration. There's a night time driving technique, where you drive along single carriage way "straddling" centre line white lines. This gives more time to react if an animal or a drunk encroaches onto the road. Obviously to be used on empty roads :). No need for that in day time. Point is the road is there to be used. It is a norm to go on the wrong side of the road when overtaking when safe. On that vid driver was going onto the wrong side of the road when it was safe as well, can't see where the problem is? Original point was that he was not sliding into corners, skidding under braking, acceleration skidding out of corners despite seemingly using all the car had on offer.

IMO there's nothing wrong with using all the road provided you can see it's clear. If he's seen through gaps that the road ahead is clear than there isn't a problem. I wouldn't drive like that in the winter but you never know he's probably got super duper winter tyres on meaning it's like an F1 car on slicks on a hot day ;)

I am not even sure that the road you see being driven is by the car & driver being shown.

Is there film of the Exterior of the car on the road.?

I suspect its a AWD doing the run.

(possibly Studded tyres' used on the snow and different tyres on the Black top.)

Lots of road tester test Road Cars and then use the car off the side of the road and camber that

'Normal' car drivers need to drive on daily.

That is the Difference between Track Cars & Road Cars that work on Tracks.

Or just road cars.

UK Cambers, and cars that get around tight corners safely.

I think most drivers can get around corners quickly if they can use the whole width of a road.

george

Anyways, that video was very enjoyable to watch for me, thanks. :thumbup:

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George,you might be right of course or could be your conspiracy theory hunt in overdrive ;):). No way of knowing really so I decided to take it on face value. Granted, European roads are different, camber included. Many a time I was expecting road here in UK to have normal camber but instead it was falling away from me and I had to compensate...

I welcome all views and opinions really, it as not me driving that car so ... I don't care really :)

I liked the video but hated the engine noise if thats what the 1.2 TSi sounds like.

I was driving this one.

But you wouldn't know what it was from video or pics,

(AWD on Snow Tyres and towing a trailer)

and actually the Ambient Temp so road temp was well above freezing.

Even knowing the road like the back of my hand you never know when around the bend is someone that has lost their vehicle

and is across the road.

This day i think there were 2 cars like that that i stopped to assist.

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Before we all get too carried away with the "public road" driving etiquette thing - judging by the complete absence of other vehicles visible in the edited clip, I'd hazard a guess that the stretch of road may have been closed off for the purpose of making the promotional vid. Quite easy to set up throughout most of mainland Europe, unlike GB. Also - we don't know how many times the driver had practiced the section before the film was made. Lastly, it's quite possible several of the "sequences" were cleverly edited from the same section of road filmed in each opposite direction of the same 1km or so stretch, then just edited together to make it look longer.

Not terrifically impressed myself, but then I'm influenced by my weekend job.

Before we all get too carried away with the "public road" driving etiquette thing - judging by the complete absence of other vehicles visible in the edited clip, I'd hazard a guess that the stretch of road may have been closed off for the purpose of making the promotional vid. Quite easy to set up throughout most of mainland Europe, unlike GB. Also - we don't know how many times the driver had practiced the section before the film was made. Lastly, it's quite possible several of the "sequences" were cleverly edited from the same section of road filmed in each opposite direction of the same 1km or so stretch, then just edited together to make it look longer. Not terrifically impressed myself, but then I'm influenced by my weekend job.

What's your weekend job?

What's your weekend job?

Co-driving rally cars with drivers of the calibre of a former Peugeot UK works driver, a NE tarmac championship event winning driver, a Wales Rally GB class winner and a National 2WD championship winner. Not wishing to sound pretentious here :happy: . Just illustrate that my (jaundiced?) view of some other's perfectly laudable driving abilities, is influenced by sitting beside some guys who are far better drivers than I could ever hope to be in my wildest dreams :hi: .  On most events, even after over 35 years "in the hot seat", I can look up occasionally and think: "If I'd tried that manoeuvre, we'd be in the trees now!" :sweat: .  That's one of the prime reasons why I (still) do it. :hi:   Just less frequently at the moment :rain: .  

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