Byte 18

[silver1011]

Does anyone have any experience with regard to Byte 18?

I know the coding is hidden under 00 and that it is therefore not recommended to play around with it due to it being difficult to reverse any changes.

I want to add LED tail lights to my Superb and understand that Byte 18 will need to be changed to prevent the bulb-error warning.

I can't ask Ross-Tech as I aren't a registered user and all of the US forums focus on VW's.

Surely someone in the UK has the knowledge to program byte 18 for me, for a fee of course?

[devonutopia]

Assume this is probably a byte within the long coding helper of 09 central electrics. Usually is a tickbox so easily reversable using VCDS.

I'd happily do it, but it would involve you coming on holiday to the Devon coast....

[silver1011]

I'm down in Devon next month... in the wifes Octavia, not the Superb

I don't think it is as simple as a tick box?

It is in 09 Central Electronics but byte 18 requires a specific HEX code.

The problem is I can't find what code I need for a Superb twindoor, non-xenon with LED tail lights.

I'm sure Dana at Ross-Tech will know but as I'm relying on a fellow member with VCDS rather than buying my own cable I can't expect them to help me out...

[Gizmo]

Yes it's a 09 controller coding buy byte 18 is not a tick box, you 'simply' have to put the correct code in.

I do have a couple of codes for the LED rear lights on a Superb.... But they are for halogen headlights (or so my list says) I will dig them out when I am home at the weekend.

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[silver1011]

Gizmo, I have halogens (SE).

That was going to be my next concern, as the L&K has xenon's I was worried if I found and used the byte 18 code copied from an L&K it might still cause me issues as I don't have xenon's.

If you could find the code for me I would be eternally grateful, you would make me a very happy man!!

(My L&K LED tail lights are currently onboard a slow boat from China).

[devonutopia]

I thought the long coding helper was just full of tickboxes, but I suppose there are elements to it where there are number ranges. I don't recall actually changing any code within the long coding helper as the idea is the ticking/unticking of boxes is what changes the actual code. I could be wrong of course Often am

[Gizmo]

Looks like you need 75 as the code?? ... You may loose the DRL's though? .... Proceed at your own risk mind!

74 - Škoda Superb (SK461) - Halogen / Xenon China - China without DRL SL with BL-function LED SBBR Xenon low beam + Halogen high beam (LED rear lights)

75 - Škoda Superb (SK461) - Halogen / Xenon China - China without DRL / TFL-ABL SL without BL-function LED SBBR Xenon low beam + Halogen high beam (LED rear lights)

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[Gizmo]

Ah just noticed you have halogens and my list was for xenons anyway!

Jason the byte 18 changed on newer cars (09 onwards??)

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[silver1011]

Ah, gutted, cheers though Gizmo.

There are a couple of 'LED tail light' threads in the Superb forum and the guys report the exact same symptoms - the dash warning dissapears but they also loose the DRL's.

Do you think someone with VCDS would ask Ross-Tech on my behalf?

If not I'll have to go down the resistor route which I'd rather not do, especially if it is simply a case of changing byte 18!

[silver1011]

I'm even tempted to try and ask Skoda CZ!?

[Gizmo]

Do you think someone with VCDS would ask Ross-Tech on my behalf?

I doubt it TBH as the 1st thing they ask for is a scan of the car.

Byte 18 is probably hidden due to Ross-Tech's stance on retro fitting xenon's (they are happy to give you the correct code ONLY after you can prove you have fitted the whole kit as they leave the factory - self levellers, washers etc)

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[silver1011]

I should be able to get a scan of the car if required by a local member with VCDS.

Another member has kindly agreed to at least ask RT the question.

I didn't realise it was Ross-Tech that have hidden byte 18, I thought it was Skoda.

I might send off an email to Skoda CZ to ask if it is possible for my local dealer to make the change!

[Theresias]

It isn't Ross-Tech who is hiding information, Skoda just isn't publishing anything anymore. We're adding information as soon as we've confirmed it on a regular basis. Any customer who has a specific need can always contact us for assistance, just because it's not in VCDS (yet) doesn't mean we don't have a possible solution.

[silver1011]

You wouldn't happen to have the hex code for byte 18 for LED tail lights on a non-xenon MkII Superb would you!?

[Theresias]

The exact value depends on the BCM software level and a couple of other facts. Start by posting an Auto-Scan and we might be able to assist...

[silver1011]

Thanks, I'm on it!

Watch this space...

[silver1011]

Hi Sebastian,

 

The tail lights arrived and were promptly fitted. As expected they immediately threw the bulb-error warning light.

 

I very kind member of Briskoda scanned my car for me last night. Listed below is what I have.

 

You'll see that both the brake lights and side lights (LED functions) are appearing as faults.

 

If you could help me to understand which element of Byte 18 I need to change and what to change it to so clear the bulb-error that would be fantastic!

 

 

Monday,15,July,2013,18:55:17:32264
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
Data version: 20120401

Chassis Type: 7N0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: TMBBE73T1B9031734  

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 JB    HW: 03L 906 018 BR
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H22 7128 
   Revision: 42H22---    Serial number:              
   Coding: 00190012042500080000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018JB 003001
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018JB.rod
   VCID: 73EFC115DAAE091

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BD    HW: 1K0 907 379 BD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108 
   Revision: 00H31001   
   Coding: 863D6016092500FB611206E7901D0082300000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00079
   VCID: 75EBFF0DDCDA171

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 AR    HW: 3T0 907 044 AR
   Component: Climatronic   H15 0401 
   Revision: 00005001   
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01006
   ROD: EV_Climatronic_SK46.rod
   VCID: 820114D11514B09

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 K    HW: 1K0 937 087 K
   Component: BCM PQ35  H+  103 0615 
   Revision: 00103 AD   
   Coding: 48990AB8A05BF1C040080080110081E4427000AE532081605C0040000040
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 3973333DB042B31

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 19101  26  0602
   Coding: 00D7B7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 211010 05  54  0403
   Coding: 2730ED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501

4 Faults Found:
00985 - Right Tail Light (M2)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 37
                    Reset counter: 110
                    Mileage: 27787 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.15
                    Time: 15:34:11

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.25 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

00988 - Lamp for Brake Light; Right (M10)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 36
                    Reset counter: 110
                    Mileage: 27787 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.15
                    Time: 15:34:11

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.25 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 36
                    Reset counter: 110
                    Mileage: 27787 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.15
                    Time: 15:50:41

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.30 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

00987 - Lamp for Brake Light; Left (M9)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 36
                    Reset counter: 110
                    Mileage: 27787 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2030.14.15
                    Time: 15:50:41

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.30 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 1Z0-919-475-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 919 475 B    HW: 1Z0 919 475
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H06 0006 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 66601030000092
   Coding: 100004
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 40855ED9D398E29

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 3T0 959 655 C    HW: 3T0 959 655 C
   Component: J234__LAU VW10 HI   1918 
   Revision: 20014000    Serial number: 003K2PMG7A6P 
   Coding: 0016725
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00079
   VCID: 41835BDD1892EB1

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 AK    HW: 5K0 953 569 B
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   009 0136 
   Revision: FF010039    Serial number: 20101026200525
   Coding: 0082140000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS_SK46.rod
   VCID: 76E9F801C9DC1C9

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3T0 959 537     HW: 3T0 959 537   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-URO  H07 0012
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 3T2 920 941 H    HW: 3T2 920 941 H
   Component: KOMBI         H20 0420 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410B00
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: 3A712C31BD44B89

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 7N0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530     HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway   H27 5603 
   Revision:   H27       Serial number: 251010F2002524
   Coding: E9A07F0600020200003303
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: EDDB576DF48A5F1

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H20 0420 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: EAD15C710D64489

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8X0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8X0 959 793 C    HW: 8X0 959 793 C
   Component: TSG FA        H09 0409 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011D0220D001001000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 4D9B77ED14CA3F1

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 195    3001 
   Revision: 00H17000   
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 31630B1DA8327B1

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8X0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8X0 959 792 C    HW: 8X0 959 792 C
   Component: TSG BF        H09 0409 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011D0220D001001000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 4C9D7AE9EFD0369

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 156 C    HW: 3T0 035 156 C
   Component: BOLERO        014 0029 
   Revision: -----28S    Serial number: SKZ4Z3K1126574
   Coding: 0D0004000004
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 2E591061790C649

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8X0 959 795 B    HW: 8X0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HL        H06 0409 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010C00200001001000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00079
   VCID: 4E9970E119CC049

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8X0 959 795 B    HW: 8X0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HR        H06 0409 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010C00200001001000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00079
   VCID: 4E9970E119CC049

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

Here are some pictures of the lights fitted...

 

 

Side lights...

 

 

Side lights and fog lights...

 

 

Dashboard bulb-error warning...

 

[Theresias]

Sadly the above scan was made using an illegal copy of our product, please understand that I will not comment on your problem under these circumstances. So whomever that "very kind member of Briskoda" is who scanned the car for you, tell him/her to go f*** themselves...   

Edited 16 July, 2013 by Theresias

[silver1011]

Oh, really? I wasn't to know this. The only reason I asked for help was because I do not know much about VCDS.

[booke23]

Sadly the above scan was made using an illegal copy of our product, please understand that I will not comment on your problem under these circumstances. So whomever that "very kind member of Briskoda" is who scanned the car for you, tell him/her to go f*** themselves...   

 

How can you tell....is it because it is version 11.11.3? 

 

I have a genuine VCDS cable and I think I'm running version 11.11.6 of VCDS, but I have updates set to manual and I suppose if I hadn't updated for a while I could be running an older version. 

 

Unfortunately I cannot help you silver1011 as I'm at the other end of the country. 

[Theresias]

An old version is often a giveway, though a legit customer with an old version will always get assistance yet we will also ask to update. In some cases (for example known issues/bugs) we may ask to update prior to going any further. It does depend on the circumstances after all. As far as determining a legit version there are other clues which we can check and in this case I can say with 100% certainty that this was done with a fake interface.

[booke23]

An old version is often a giveway, though a legit customer with an old version will always get assistance yet we will also ask to update. In some cases (for example known issues/bugs) we may ask to update prior to going any further. It does depend on the circumstances after all. As far as determining a legit version there are other clues which we can check and in this case I can say with 100% certainty that this was done with a fake interface.

 

I did wonder if you could tell from looking at some of the other parameters. 

 

That being the case, presumably the owner of this cable (assuming they know it is a copy) should have really told the OP this before plugging it into their car. You hear stories of these copied cables destroying modules on cars etc. 

[Theresias]

Reality is that we have seen a lot of things in combination with these fakes. From altered software to stuff which they modify on your windows machine making it hardly usable after and even modifying other devices attached to that machine as far as making a different 15000 USD tool which was attached at the time into an expensive paper weight. Then people blame us for this, though in the end it turns out - they did use a fake copy and not an actual VCDS. Never seen a case like that in combination with one of our genuine systems. After all there is a reason for the price difference. No develoment costs, cheaper materials (sometimes even fake electronic components themselves) and not to forget labor/production costs.

 

FWIW, we do see a lot of people who claim somebody else scanned their car while they actually own the clone/fake and know exactly what they got their - still trying to fool us (and/or others). In the end for me/us this is a waste of time, I'd rather help those who respect what we do and the effort we put into this product.

Edited 16 July, 2013 by Theresias

[silver1011]

FWIW, we do see a lot of people who claim somebody else scanned their car while they actually own the clone/fake and know exactly what they got their - still trying to fool us (and/or others). In the end for me/us this is a waste of time, I'd rather help those who respect what we do and the effort we put into this product.

 

Easy, that sounds like a completely unjustified accusation.

[Theresias]

Nobody accused you, if I wanted to do that I would have done so and there would be no doubt about it. Fact is, we have no means to check who actually did what - we only see the results and act accordingly. In this case we saw  that you wanted help in combination with a pirated product of ours. End of story,