Hi, have just spent a great 10 weeks in Spain with my 140 hp  Octavia elegance estate dragging a caravan behind, the Octavia was brilliant , as we would like to do long distance touring again we have decided we would like  like a larger car and have ordered a 2009 42000 mls 170 hp elegance dsg hatchback, very impressed on the test drive. It will have new cambelt  water pump and gearbox fluid changed and normal service Skoda approved with one year warranty and Skoda assist, anyone know if one has problems eg turbo this would this be put down to wear and tear  due to mileage and not be covered by warranty, normally look to buy demo skoda , this time working on a tighter budget, looking forward to Thurs and having a play with the park assist feature and getting to grips with all the gizmos on this model.

When you tested it did it have any sort of sound like a cop car in the distance?

 

If it did then you either have a manifold leak (hope) or the turbo is damaged inside though sucking something foreign into itself,

 

Best way to tell is while it's cold open the bonnet and rev it gently to 2500 rpm, if you hear the turbo spool up this is normal if the spooling has any sort of wailing this is not, hth.

Not sure from your post if u think theres a problem with the turbo or if it's just a general question. If there's no symptoms as long as it's been regularly serviced with the correct oil at 40 odd k it should only just be run in.

Hope you enjoy your superb, it should be a real pleasure to tow with.

You have made a wise move my friend, I too had a octy and also tow a caravan, the octy was good at towing but we had a weight issue as the caravan weight was 1500kg and the octy had a tow limit of 1400kg so we moved to a superb elegance 170bhp 4x4 and its stunning it still returns 30mpg when the van is on the back. Back to the other question We do not see any turbo issues compared to the Octavia I think ive fitted 1 turbo on a superb and that was caused by lack of oil which could have been avoided if the owner checked the levels regularly. Phil.

Sorry I thought you had only asked what to look for rather than if there was a problem,

 

Basically as it's past the 3 yr Skoda  period you will get a Skoda branded warranty from someone like Warranty Direct etc, the Turbo should be covered but as a new one is £1500 there could be some blame wiggling if you do have trouble later,

 

The miles are no indication btw, mine started whining at about 45k iirc (a few months past take it back time) but it is still on the car now 2 years later and another 30k ish on it which led me to suspect the manifold has a leak rather than the fins are broken/bent, here's a great site to read up on Turbo's btw

 

http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/technical/technical-info/technical-faq/

The miles are no indication btw, mine started whining at about 45k iirc (a few months past take it back time) but it is still on the car now 2 years later and another 30k ish on it which led me to suspect the manifold has a leak rather than the fins are broken/bent, here's a great site to read up on Turbo's btw

 

http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/technical/technical-info/technical-faq/

What's with you Supurbia?? How many times have you posted rubbish on here about whining turbos and now you are saying that on yours ( a totally different engine btw) that's its probably not the problem and that it started 30K miles ago.

And yet you post all over the place about looking out for turbo issues.

When test driving the superb no hint of turbo whine, I was using that   as a example of a component that could fail,  and if the used car warranty which approved skoda  use would only cover parts which fail because of a manufacturing fault .

I wouldn't worry about Supurbia's post, he doesn't and has never owned a Superb II, although no doubt has a friend who has or has read it on the Internet somewhere

I wouldn't worry about Supurbia's post, he doesn't and has never owned a Superb II, although no doubt has a friend who has or has read it on the Internet somewhere

 

 

Oh really, try 3 years of a Sup 1 TDi auto and another 3 years of a Passat B6 2.0 PD DSG, you do know which car the Superb is based on don't you?

 

And if you think my chat about the turbo is tat I suggest you read up on the link I posted and tell them they are also beneath your knowledge,

 

The fella asked what to look out for on the car, as the B6 and the Superb share everything owning one for the last 3 years sort of qualifies me that I might know a bit more about the cars than you give me credit for,

 

Totally different engines lol, they may have different code names but they are all based around one design with slight differences, the only real difference is PD vs CR these are totally different but even then they both use too small a Garrett VNT turbo which Einstein if you do a google search about you'll find lots of VAG owners VAG not just Skoda btw with the same siren sound, http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy-ab&q=vw+turbo+siren&oq=vw+turbo+siren&gs_l=serp.3..0i22i30.1221373.1225726.2.1226389.14.12.0.2.2.1.614.1821.7j4j5-1.12.0....0...1c.1.19.psy-ab.E0qNeYWNOAY&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=839d9582418924f5&biw=1536&bih=799 turbo isn't man enough for those engines,

 

Would you like to see the famous oil pump ones as well, be sure to read how VAG refuses to help http://www.google.co.uk/#gs_rn=19&gs_ri=psy-ab&pq=vw%20turbo%20siren&cp=13&gs_id=89&xhr=t&q=vw+oil+pump+failure&es_nrs=true&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=vw+oil+pump+f&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=839d9582418924f5&biw=1536&bih=799

 

Lets not forget the EPB problems eh http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy-ab&q=vw+epb&oq=vw+epb&gs_l=serp.3..0l4.36034.37076.2.37514.3.3.0.0.0.0.447.638.1j1j4-1.3.0....0...1c.1.19.psy-ab.pO9wthN6G_Y&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=839d9582418924f5&biw=1536&bih=799

 

Ignition barrel troubles ? http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy-ab&q=passat+steering+column+problem&oq=passat+steeri&gs_l=serp.1.1.0l4.41193.46007.3.48958.13.11.0.2.2.1.343.1213.8j2j0j1.11.0....0...1c.1.19.psy-ab.QEvyQY4zUZo&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=839d9582418924f5&biw=1536&bih=799

 

How about we talk about Injectors ? http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy-ab&q=passat+injector+failure&oq=passat+injector&gs_l=serp.1.3.0l4.42057.44106.4.47592.8.3.0.5.5.1.507.663.2j5-1.3.0....0...1c.1.19.psy-ab.f81nvxcN6Gc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=839d9582418924f5&biw=1536&bih=799

 

Seems things aren't improving either http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/answer/44644/where-can-i-go-now-when-the-dealer-says-nothing-more-can-be-done

 

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/answer/13922/teves-brakes

 

Great cars eh, I won't be buying one again unless it's older than an 04 plate, and incase you still want to know why I'm still here it's to help people when they need help cos I'm good like that,

 

I thought this was done anyway, I thought you weren't going to follow me about making snide comments anymore, or is it you whose been drinking tonight?

Edited 7 July, 201312 yr by Supurbia

@ melly

 

Have a look at this

 

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/answer/44639/extended-used-car-warranty-woith-additional-turbo-premium-refused-to-cover-failed-turbo-

 

You don't get VAG warranty on cars over 3 years old, they sub it out and it's not a good experience when you need to claim, it's the same with Vauxhall,Kia,Hyundai 5 - 7 year 100k ones, the companies will only be interested at their cost for 3 years after that it's fight the insurance company basically, hth.

Great cars eh, I won't be buying one again unless it's older than an 04 plate, and incase you still want to know why I'm still here it's to help people when they need help cos I'm good like that,

I thought this was done anyway, I thought you weren't going to follow me about making snide comments anymore, or is it you whose been drinking tonight?

Typical response from you. Firstly, I'm not following you. You post on practically every thread on the Superb II forum. Secondly, I haven't been drinking last night, or this morning.

So if you are here to help, how come you only post in Superb II forum? Superb I owners not worthy of your expertise? i suspect you are here to be a pain in the arse, because you had an issue with a Skoda dealer and the mpg claims of owners here and have been an arse since.

Now you are posting a load of links that relate to issues with old engines and none relate to the Superb II. Just more unrelated b*lls**t from you. For example, why even bother to post a link about electronic parking brake??

The fella asked what to look out for on the car, as the B6 and the Superb share everything owning one for the last 3 years sort of qualifies me that I might know a bit more about the cars than you give me credit for,

Totally different engines lol, they may have different code names but they are all based around one design with slight differences, the only real difference is PD vs CR these are totally different but even then they both use too small a Garrett VNT turbo which Einstein if you do a google search about you'll find lots of VAG owners VAG not just Skoda btw with the same siren sound,

The OP states 170 CR engine in his post, yet you go on about turbo issues on a totally different engine - how is that helpful?? You do the same thing on another thread asking about 1.8TSI petrol. How is it helpful to suggest listening out for a turbo issue that's related to an old Diesel engine???

Funny how you, the person who has never owned a Superb II, is the only one saturating this forum with these issues engine, turbo issues.

For God's sake, give it a rest, you two!  You've already had some posts deleted by the mods - take the hint.

Interesting start to my time on the Superb forum , did not think my posting would have generated such passion. Have found some imfo on Skoda site , it states that parts subject to wear and tear are covered for the first six months, It states you get a Skoda warranty or a Skoda approved one, would have expected  Skoda cover if it is a approved one you probably have to make a claim yourself with the insurer will check this out.

Typical response from you. Firstly, I'm not following you. You post on practically every thread on the Superb II forum. Secondly, I haven't been drinking last night, or this morning.

 

YES YOU ARE!

So if you are here to help, how come you only post in Superb II forum? Superb I owners not worthy of your expertise? i suspect you are here to be a pain in the arse, because you had an issue with a Skoda dealer and the mpg claims of owners here and have been an arse since.

 

I'VE BEEN ON HERE THE BEST PART OF 7 YEARS NEWBIE

Now you are posting a load of links that relate to issues with old engines and none relate to the Superb II. Just more unrelated b*lls**t from you. For example, why even bother to post a link about electronic parking brake??

 

THE LINKS ARE IN RESPONSE TO YOUR BLATANT DISLIKE OF MY PRESENCE

The OP states 170 CR engine in his post, yet you go on about turbo issues on a totally different engine - how is that helpful?? You do the same thing on another thread asking about 1.8TSI petrol. How is it helpful to suggest listening out for a turbo issue that's related to an old Diesel engine???

 

THEY ALL USE THE SAME TYPE OF GARRATT TURBO!

Funny how you, the person who has never owned a Superb II, is the only one saturating this forum with these issues engine, turbo issues.

 

AND THAT REALLY GETS TO YOU DOESN'T IT, YOU DON'T LIKE IT THAT SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT KNOW SOMETHING YOU DON'T

 

 

Please don't answer me again I really don't wish to have to answer you again.

 

 

@ melly, it will be an approved one backed by one of the large warranty companies.

For God's sake, give it a rest, you two!  You've already had some posts deleted by the mods - take the hint.

So you are happy with the crap being posted all over the Superb II forum by Supurbia and his responses??

Please don't answer me again I really don't wish to have to answer you again.

Try justifying why you are targeting this forum and only this forum then??

You repeatedly are posting negative posts about Skoda that have no basis for fact etc, yet me and other people are the ones with the issue

So you are happy with the crap being posted all over the Superb II forum by Supurbia and his responses??

 

And you're STILL going on!

I don't want to join the argument, but I can't let some of the above go without correcting some of it. Apologies in advance Supurbia, as a lot of this relates to your post - nothing personal.

The Superb II doesn't share everything with the B6. It's actually based on a golf, not passat. I too had the infamous BKP 140PD engine in my B6. I wrote about preventative maintenance to help avoid the oil pump drive rounding off - ranging from replacing the hex key shaft periodically at oil change (a £5 part), to installing a 3rd party refabricated and toughened balancer shaft assembly to stop the oil pump drive key rounding off in the future. The problem affected a build period covering an approximate known VIN number range. IIRC it was all sorted by 2006/7 when VW "updated" the balance shaft-to-oil pump drive with a longer key and a more precision-centred socket (check my thread on ukpassats), and certainly all of the CR engines were ok. At year 8 (2nd Cambelt change) was the time for me to get the preventative maintenance done if I was going to get it done. I weighed up the cost of cambelt + major service + preventative maintenance vs trading it in for something newer. I chose the latter as I had negotiated a good deal on the Skoda with a good PX price that I was more than happy with. The Superb II doesn't have an EPB, which was a problem with the earlier B6 passats, before the EPB manufacturer "updated" this design to one that worked properly. Wasn't a problem after TRW(iirc?) changed the design in about 07/08.

The door handles failing on the B6 I thought may have carried over to the Superb II as they look to me to share the same design and layout - but I haven't seen any posts on this forum that suggest it's an issue.

I also had the free injector replacement on my passat BKP engine at year 7, and VW also fixed the boot rust around the number plate lights (another design that was "updated" at a later date). A few owners have had the whole tailgate replaced under the corrosion warranty from VW on their B6s, although I understand VW aren't quite as generous now. My owner experience of VW UK stepping up has been excellent. My local VW dealer was on the other hand awful - I would come out shaking my head sometimes. My experience at my 2 local Skoda dealers has been excellent so far - although that is only based on purchase, after sales, first service and some warranty work.

Sorry to post this on here, and I don't really want to add fuel to the fire - rather to allay some of the fears about older (first generation) B6 passats, which as I say, the Superb II isn't based on.

Edited 7 July, 201312 yr by JakeBlade

Interesting start to my time on the Superb forum , did not think my posting would have generated such passion. Have found some imfo on Skoda site , it states that parts subject to wear and tear are covered for the first six months, It states you get a Skoda warranty or a Skoda approved one, would have expected  Skoda cover if it is a approved one you probably have to make a claim yourself with the insurer will check this out.

By the looks of it " Supurbia" Has obviously had a bad experience with skoda so he takes great delight in slagging the product off, Most of his links don't even relate to the superb 2, They don't have electric park brakes nor do they have oil pump drive issues (which only caused issues on the superb 1 fitted with the BSS engine) They don't have injector issues (ive never fitted any injectors on a CR engine yet!) and as I previously said ive fitted one turbo to a CR which was pilot error, And as far as I am aware the superb 2 is its own floor pan and isn't a b6 Passat. I work at a main dealer and I have found that Skoda used car warranty is fairly good if you get a decent engineer to ok the work. (ive had numerous turbos and other major parts covered for customers over the last few years.

One option open to OP is to negotiate the warranty out of the deal from the dealer, and get a 3rd party warranty from Warranty Direct* and an appropriate level of recovery assist from a 3rd party.

* other warranty providers are available.

Ok I'll start with you Steve,

 

I have helped people asking for advise here, if telling them about the negatives is against the law then I guess I'm busted, and it's not about dissing Skoda I actually favour Skoda over VW and Seat, but if you read all my posts you'll find they aren't all negative at all, I've told you time and again how I rate the DSG (in one post I actually dare suggest the user buy one instead of a manual) the VAG engines are more economic than most of the competition, but 3.6 V6's don't do 27 mpg on the urban end of and this is your bone that you can't let go of isn't it, I don't do much in the Superb 1 section as all the answers are already there from years ago, now I'll kindly ask you not to keep on at me anymore as I'm bored of you now, I thought we'd agreed to leave each other alone 4 days ago.

 

@ Sherlock,

 

It's the way VAG as a group treats it's customers that is the real bone of contention tbh, the epb I know the Superb doesn't have one I listed it as it's another bad design that is made to fail and at £600 per side it's no joke, plastic housing's for a component that is likely to get stone hit and sit in freezing snow at some time, I know user input can kill them also ranging from simply abusing it to not using it so it seizes, all those links were in response to Steve tbh, they had no relevance regarding the car they were to highlight major flaws that VAG washes it's hands of, do you know if the 1.9 in a Highline is a PD or a CR? either way a mate had his one shoot a rod through the block three weeks ago, many reasons why it happened but when I said to him that's the bulletproof engine he said there are lots of Audi and VW users with the same engine that have had the same thing, I think personally he had a clutch a while ago and fitted a normal flywheel, he says he fitted a DMF one though, he services his cars ok so other than vibes on the crank I can't think why the rod failed unless he was simply unlucky.

 

@ Jake,

 

iirc the Golf platform is known as the A5 platform and is also used as the basis of the B6/7's, sadly the oil pump isn't limited to age it's likely on any 2.0 PD, I've seen a 57 plate do one and another guy I was helping a few weeks ago also has a 57 plate one that has done it (one reason I wanted shot of mine tbh) the warranty if it's a year 4 one will be with someone like Warranty Direct anyway rather than Skoda,

 

You two shouldn't take anything I've replied to you as bad or aimed cos it isn't, I simply can't shake my shadow and he wants to make me look bad here, check my posts if you like you'll find as many where I've helped someone as ones where I've had a moan about VAG quality and dealers.

 

 

 

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Here you are lads

 

An all new Škoda Superb (B6, Typ 3T) was unveiled at the Geneva Motor Show in early March 2008.^[9]

Based on a stretched version of the latest A5 Octavia platform, the Volkswagen Group B6 PQ46, this new Superb is a five-door five-seat liftback saloon/sedan, with an innovative rear door that can double as a regular separate saloon boot, and full liftback, known as 'Twin-Door'. Being based on the Octavia A5 platform, this latest Superb now utilises a transverse engine layout.

Petrol engine options include five Volkswagen Group sourced units; consisting of an entry-level 92 kilowatts (125 PS; 123 bhp) 1.4-litre inline-four cylinder (I4) TFSI (with a turbocharger and Fuel Stratified Injection), a 118 kW (160 PS; 158 bhp) 1.8-litre I4 TFSI, a 147 kW (200 PS; 197 bhp) 2.0-litre I4 TFSI, a flagship 3.6-litre 191 kW (260 PS; 256 bhp) FSI VR6 engine (a detuned version of that fitted in the Passat R36) complete with 4motion four-wheel drive and six-speed Direct-Shift Gearbox (DSG). Diesel engine options will include 2.0-litre I4 Turbocharged Direct Injection (TDI) with common rail which is rated at 103 kW (140 PS; 138 bhp), 2.0-litre I4 TDI 125 kW (170 PS; 168 bhp) with common rail, and a 77 kW (105 PS; 103 bhp) 1.9-litre I4 TDI Greenline with reduced fuel consumption.

Edited 7 July, 201312 yr by Supurbia