Afternoon all, bit of advice please:

 

I currently have a MK1 VRS and have owned it for 4 years.  97k on the clock with extensive history, no expense spared etc etc. 

 

However I am not finding it not as practicle and as suited to life as I would have hoped: Towing trailers, putting the dog in and out, trips to B&Q etc are just a hassle now...

 

I am tempted with the idea of an estate and then someone mentioned I should consider the scout - a tough estate with 4x4 when needed:

 

Just after a bit of info regarding the 2 diesel engines on offer:  the CR and the PD.... Differences and which is best for normal life (obvioulsly there are stats quoted ) but what is it like to actually live with ...

 

The insurance, tax and general running I anticipate to be cheaper than my  VRS at the moment ...

 

I plan to keep the VRS as a weekend Toy, and the 2nd car as the every dayer, practicle and economical.

 

 

Any Advice people can give is hugely appreciated  - Im fairly up to speed on the MK1 but Mk2 / 3 is a whole new game to me....

 

 

Regards

 

Rob

There are a few posts on here about the differences between PD & CR engines.  If I understand correctly CR is considered more refined, provides smoother power delivery & supposedly less prone to DPF problems.  I've got one of the last Scouts with PD engine & so far 50k+ with only EGR cooler replaced under warranty, can't say I've even noticed a regen.  Can be bit lethargic until the turbo kicks in, some prefer the noticeable power surge others don't.

Drove an estate with CR recently & the difference in power delivery was noticeable, initially didn't feel as quick as mine but think I was just missing the obvious turbo boost I get with the PD engine.  Did wonder why the tyres were squealing on corners & roundabouts then remembered the CR was only driving two wheels .
There is an economy penalty for the Scout so you need to consider whether you really need the 4x4 & extra ground clearance.  I've found it an excellent car for my needs, copes well away from the tarmac & with winter tyres is awesome in snow & ice (pretty impressive on summer rubber).  So far has got me everywhere I've needed to be, with the back full of work kit on or off road in all conditions with no dramas. Fully understand why they're so popular with emergency services.

I've been a bit of a petrol snob in the past. After I test drive a CR scout I was totally convinced it would be a great alternative to a petrol. I bought a new scout about 3 months ago and the engine is much more petrol like to drive than I expected. It's quiet too. I was following a 2007 octy (PD) recently quite slowly in traffic, and his engine drowned mine out it was such a big difference in the noise from revving from stationary.I regularly get 48-52 mpg on my commute double what the old Subaru Legacy (petrol) was giving so I'm very happy.

I've been a bit of a petrol snob in the past. After I test drive a CR scout I was totally convinced it would be a great alternative to a petrol. I bought a new scout about 3 months ago and the engine is much more petrol like to drive than I expected. It's quiet too. I was following a 2007 octy (PD) recently quite slowly in traffic, and his engine drowned mine out it was such a big difference in the noise from revving from stationary.I regularly get 48-52 mpg on my commute double what the old Subaru Legacy (petrol) was giving so I'm very happy.

I'm also on the look out for a FL Scout and after test driving a CR last week I'm going to be looking to replace my PD140 Octavia 2 (pre-FL) with one of those.

Tax is cheaper than a PD Scout, economy slightly better (official figures), noise better controlled, etc.

In theory it should have less problems with the DPF than PD Scout but as long as they driven appropriately you shouldn't have any problems.

Have you seem my thread about Scouts?

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/283314-some-questions-for-scout-owners/?fromsearch=1

will check out the thread now KB photo ....

 

Is the CR fitted with a turbo at all??  Im used to having power at my disposal with a twitch of the right foot ... so am after something with a good set of guts when needed   but economical and powerful enough should a trailer etc be loaded onto it..

 

From what I'm hearing thr CR is the one to go for...  is that the engine that just says TDI on it rather than PDi?

 

Thanks everyone so far for the comments, its great to hear from real users rather than online reviews under test conditions.

 

Rob

Scout PD engine code starts BMM and has a turbo. Ask the seller to show some evidence or look on the plate in engine bay.

CR I'm not sure about. But I'm sure its still a Tdi engine and has a turbo. Will await confirmation from someone who knows for sure.

I'm not seeing much difference in price between a 2010 PD & CR with similar mileage, but there are fewer cheaper CR's about at the moment.

Yes, turbo on the CR as well. I'm also surprised at what a good load lugger the scout is. When loaded up with camping gear my legacy felt heavy - needed more revs a bit wallowy, don't seem to notice a big load on board so much with the scout.

Both CR & PD have turbos & described as TDI on the V5. As KBPhoto has said you need to check engine number, PD will be BMM, CR should have four characters starting with Cxxx (see KBPhoto's thread). If test driving, the CR will drive more like a petrol, PD will have noticeable boost around 1800 rpm.

Don't forget, you can also opt to dispense with the Tupperware and go for the 4x4. Does the same job, but has toughened plastic underbody protection instead of metal and sits a smidge lower than the Scout due to a smaller tyre/wheel combo.