Hi everyone.

 

I test drove the new 2013 VRS Octavia estate yesterday and liked it very much.

 

Initially I was going to buy the DSG diesel but having driven the DSG petrol and spoken to the salesman, he was of the opinion that my mileage (6-8k a year) didn't warrant the extra cost of the diesel.

 

Does that sound right? I can't imagine the salesman had any ulterior motive as the petrol is cheaper and it's going to be a factory order, whichever variant I go for.

 

Additionally I am looking at 6k deposit on 42 months 0% PCP. Has anyone managed to negotiate any discounts and still kept the 0% finance?

 

Many Thanks

 

PS I have attached my ideal spec. You will see that I've added lots and lots of extra's but plan on keeping the car for at least 4 years.

Hi

Welcome to Briskoda

Ive moved this to a more relevant/suitable forum where you should (hopefully) get more replies

Not everyone looks at the introduction page (as its really for just saying hello)

Cheers

Damo

The consensus is 4.5% is achievable whilst having the 0% finance. Theres a few relevant threads in the Octavia 3 section.

Can't help with the PCP, but have seen plenty of posts on here saying if your mileage is less than about 12-14K then buying a diesel may not make the most financial sense when all things considered.

I think the type of mileage is more important than the number of miles.

 

The diesel is more to buy, but you get more later when you pass it on and you save on fuel costs and tax the entire time.

 

However, if you're not doing enough miles at sufficient speed when you do drive it it will not be good for the car and will likely lead to DPF problems.

 

I had a diesel that only did 100 miles per week, that was all motorway and am not convinced it was the wrong engine.

Hi.

 

Thanks for moving to the right section

 

.. and thanks to everyone who replied. This is obviously an active forum

 

Mileage is probably not going to involve very much motorway driving. It's an 18 mile round trip to and from work and involves driving through traffic on most shifts.

 

I think the petrol does seem to make sense for my circs or I might just be being a bit shallow though and assuming the petrol is quite a bit quicker!

 

Interesting about the resale value. Does the diesel really do that much better coming part-ex/selling?

 

I'm speaking to the salesman tomorrow evening (after I've test driven another make of vehicle in Leeds.)

 

I'll ask and see whether any discount is possible. It's DM Keith in Wakefield and I see that they post on here.

 

Thanks for the info chaps.

 

 

Andy

Sorry just one more question. Is the discount off the base price of the car or does the discount apply to the OTR price including options?

 

Ta

 

Andy

Can't help on the finance side, but your journeys don't seem suitable for a diesel, as the car will never get fully warm, so the DPF will be forever regenerating.

Buy the petrol

I think the type of mileage is more important than the number of miles.

The diesel is more to buy, but you get more later when you pass it on and you save on fuel costs and tax the entire time.

However, if you're not doing enough miles at sufficient speed when you do drive it it will not be good for the car and will likely lead to DPF problems.

Great point

However, if you're not doing enough miles at sufficient speed when you do drive it it will not be good for the car and will likely lead to DPF problems.

 

Can't help on the finance side, but your journeys don't seem suitable for a diesel, as the car will never get fully warm, so the DPF will be forever regenerating.

Buy the petrol

 

 

 

Thanks chaps

 

Petrol it is. That's one decision made.

 

Andy

im pretty curious to know how different folk get discounts, im not the best negotiator and would love any tips

do you just go in and say ive got x amount of pounds yes or no and then be prepared to walk away or do you have some kind of code they understand lol

im looking at a car, they offered me somewhere around what all the sites say mines worth but then there price seems fixed. i tried the old forget what there worth i just need to know the cost to change but thats just 1 minus the other cars value. surely nobody pays list price for cars unless its a rare thing so is there a knack i/we could all learn from

ive looked at drivethedeal and their prices are several k less than a dealers

im at the point of trying a half nelson on the salesman but that might get me arrested. i read about i got this off or i got that off all the time, well how????

 

back on topic, id agree with the petrol at those mileages, the gap between the two mpg's these days isnt that much and a petrol is better to drive, imho

as for the time of selling, well we get ripped off anyways, im sorry sir its the wrong colour or whatever, buying a car is one thing but its the day to day running we notice the most and you dont seem to really be doing the miles to justify the extra

i came from a diesel to petrol and cant say im much worse off in my pocket and its so much better to drive

I would go and enquire at a VW or Audi Dealership,

putting down 6K and 42 months term,

You may find that VW or Audi then put in their Finance Contribution to the deal and you get what in effect is the Discount.

 

george

In answer to your question, petrol would probably seem the best choice. But if your commute is as you say, i suspect the economy will be horrendous.

However, £32 k on an Octy though is a lot of money. You may find a better deal with a premium brand such as Audi or Mercedes or dare i say Jaguar even.

Personally I'd say it would be absolutely bonkers to spend 32k on a vRS, unless you litterally have money to throw away. This is because come trade in the car will not be worth anything like a different car with that sort of spec as standard. You will loose most of that extra 10k before the depreciation of the base car is added so I'd advise you get a number of PCP quotes showing what the various elements are- initial contribution, monthly payments and GFV so you can understand the true cost of what you are considering doing. you could do this for both petrol and diesel, fully loaded as well as just the basic model so you get the full picture.

 

I'd look for a standrad model car that had what you want (or a compromise close enough to be acceptable) unless of course this is just a wind up! LOL

Personally I'd say it would be absolutely bonkers to spend 32k on a vRS, unless you litterally have money to throw away. This is because come trade in the car will not be worth anything like a different car with that sort of spec as standard.

 

I'd look for a standrad model car that had what you want (or a compromise close enough to be acceptable) unless of course this is just a wind up! LOL

 

Hi.

 

It's not a wind up and I don't consider myself to be bonkers (well perhaps a bit  ), but yes I do go mad with the specs on vehicles and do lose lots of money most of the time.

 

In the past this has usually been due to chopping them in a lot more often than I should, and losing thousands each time I do. I appreciate the foolishness of this but I work hard for my money and don't really spend it on anything else.

 

Additionally I've promised SWMBO that this car will be a keeper and for that reason I want the spec to be exactly right. Part of this is because I've been lucky enough to own/drive some really smart motors in the past with all the bells and whistles. The Skoda doesn't fall into this bracket, but with all the toys, it isn't a bad consolation. Once I've had a useful feature on a car I then try and make sure I have it on whatever I get next.

 

I am genuinely not concerned about resale value as I intend to keep the car for 4-5 years and the monthly payments are looking like they could be as low as a third of what I have paid for other vehicles in the past.

 

 

However, £32 k on an Octy though is a lot of money. You may find a better deal with a premium brand such as Audi or Mercedes or dare i say Jaguar even.

 

I thought about this and have looked at Audi A6 Avant's and BMW 5 Series M sport Tourers. Both of these cars I specced came to over 50k and even with better residuals I still think it would be swings and roundabouts as the monthly payments are twice those of the Octavia.

 

I actually had an A6 for a weekend a while ago and didn't like it. I suspect the BMW will be more fun and I'm due to test one tomorrow. In all honesty though I can't envisage it being twice as good as the Octavia despite costing nearly twice as much.

 

Thanks

 

Andy

Ok fur enuf mate.... I was just wondering if it was a bit of a suspect thread as you must admit it looks a bit like you've just ticked all the options. I do FULLY understand if you want to blow a wad on a nice car though as I've had nice bikes in the past and that makes no financial sense either! Go for the petrol and enjoy!

All the best and you MUST post some pics when you get it....

You say that this is going to be a keeper, then i wonder why youre going for a PCP. Have you investigated actually buying the car.

 

If as above the total cost for PCP including the final payment after 42 months is going to be around £32k, that is completely bonkers, even Skoda finance are not going to be that expensive with the current low interest rates, some bank rates can be cheaper to actually take a loan to buy.

 

I have always though that the best use of PCP is to have a car for term of the contract then replace it, although it does tie you into that brand unless you can afford to walk away & have a deposit for a different brand's PCP.

... as you must admit it looks a bit like you've just ticked all the options. I do FULLY understand if you want to blow a wad on a nice car though as I've had nice bikes in the past and that makes no financial sense either! Go for the petrol and enjoy!

All the best and you MUST post some pics when you get it....

 

It does look that way.

 

I must admit it' started out with less options but I kept going back to the spec and adding bits and I've added most bits apart from the variable floor option as I have no use for it at all.

 

You say that this is going to be a keeper, then i wonder why youre going for a PCP. Have you investigated actually buying the car.

 

If as above the total cost for PCP including the final payment after 42 months is going to be around £32k, that is completely bonkers, even Skoda finance are not going to be that expensive with the current low interest rates, some bank rates can be cheaper to actually take a loan to buy.

 

I have always though that the best use of PCP is to have a car for term of the contract then replace it, although it does tie you into that brand unless you can afford to walk away & have a deposit for a different brand's PCP.

 

The deal that the salesman mentioned was 0%. I said I wanted to put 6k down and pay over 42 months. I think the payment was approx. £359 and the FGMV was about £11500.

 

The reason it comes to £32k is 'cos that's how much the car is with lot's of options.

 

I know what I'm planning to do may seem daft to some which is why I'd asked about discount. If I get the 4.5-4.8% discount off the price it just helps me rationalise the purchase in my own mind.

 

Anyway, thanks for the opinions/advice, much appreciated.

 

 

Andy

Have you looked at the Asking Prices of Ex Demonstrator Octavia lll vRS Estastes?

http://autotrader.co.uk

 

There will be a good few dozen of those for sale around the UK just shortly, some well specced up & there to be had for the not much over 20K.

obviously they will not want to sell cheaply, but no doubt before the year is out there will be wonderful bargains for Cash Money.

 

It does look like they could be a depreciation disaster and something needing bought as a keeper.

 

george

I managed to bag just over a grand off on my new VRs order.

Hi all.

Order placed today at DM Keiths in Wakefield. Got the discount I wanted with 0% finance and the free servicing so I'm happy.

Car should be ready for mide to late December according to the salesguy.

Now the tiresome business of waiting begins! Wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that I'm dodging about in an old Fiesta van until I take delivery.

Sorry posted before I meant to....

wanted to also say thanks for all the advice chaps.

Andy.