Hi Guys,

 

Anyone had any experiences with a HID conversion kit like this? - http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-accessories/car-accessories-products/lighting-accessories/xenon-conversion-kits/?971775285&0&cc5_774

 

Or should they be avoided like the plague? :think:

8000k!? Seriously?

 

If you really feel the need to put a HID kit in a standard (reflector) type light unit then at least go for a max of 5000k (4300k is OEM).

 

8000k will look purple and have very little light output.

 

The seller Londoncolour on ebay is good.

 

I really would advise against it though. Get yourself some projector syle lights. The Depo ones that everyone got on the group buy seem good.

 

Phil

Pretty much exactly what I was going to say, except that I'd have used the word "chav" in there someplace.

Thanks Phil. Just got an email promoting them from ECP, that was all.

 

Never really looked into it before. I've changed the OEM bulbs to Osram Nightbreakers which seems a big improvement.

Pretty much exactly what I was going to say, except that I'd have used the word "chav" in there someplace.

 

Ouch!

Thanks Phil. Just got an email promoting them from ECP, that was all.

 

Never really looked into it before. I've changed the OEM bulbs to Osram Nightbreakers which seems a big improvement.

I've got H4 Nightbreaker+, and they throw full beam a mile (literally) in the dry. Aside from any arguments about the (il)legality of plasma discharge unis in reflector shells, just how much more range does anyone need? 

I've read something recently about 6k+ crap hid conversions being behind an increase in owls being run over and killed on country roads.

Apparently they get blinded as their eyes operate in the 6k something band?

I've read something recently about 6k+ crap hid conversions being behind an increase in owls being run over and killed on country roads.

Apparently they get blinded as their eyes operate in the 6k something band?

I think that's sort of wrong; owls have very large eyes for operating in low light, so they'll be dazzled by any high lumen source.

I'll try and find it in my history as I was pretty shocked at it.

Which h number do I need for my 2010 octy combi? I can't find that year listed on the powerbulb site

TVM

8000k gives a decent range and a good view of the road in dry conditions altho in the rain they dont seem to great tbh, penetration isnt good in wet conditions. Still a huge improvement over standard.

Im sure thats the kind of answer you were after

Which h number do I need for my 2010 octy combi? I can't find that year listed on the powerbulb site

TVM

 

H7

 

8000k gives a decent range and a good view of the road in dry conditions altho in the rain they dont seem to great tbh, penetration isnt good in wet conditions. Still a huge improvement over standard.

Im sure thats the kind of answer you were after

 

8000K will be very purple and be more suited to the front of max power than a Skoda.

 

 

5000K is imo the sweet spot.

H7

 

 

8000K will be very purple and be more suited to the front of max power than a Skoda.

 

 

5000K is imo the sweet spot.

Human Factors stuff says 4800K for best range to 6000K for the most "daylight" illumination. As you say 8000K or more just makes you look like a chav.

And could lead to an MOT failure on "clour of light emitted"

Afaik they all lead to mot failure.

Afaik they all lead to mot failure.

And why would you think that?

As I've said before, the various charts are a little misleading. Different makes seem to shine different colours. In my experience those numbers need moving to the right one space. So 5k is the middle picture of the top row which looks just right IMO. I've got 6k in at the moment and they look too blue & chavvy for my taste, they shine like the 8k in that chart.

Afaik they all lead to mot failure.

Yet they all seem to pass. On a straight up MOT too.

I mean when fitted on cars without washers and self leveling etc

As we know 4.3k is OEM

In my experience even 6k looks rubbish! 6k has a lot of blue in it!

So id imagine 8k would be horrendously blue/purple!

Anything above 4.3k just screams out to me fake / chav

As we know 4.3k is OEM

In my experience even 6k looks rubbish! 6k has a lot of blue in it!

So id imagine 8k would be horrendously blue/purple!

Anything above 4.3k just screams out to me fake / chav

Mercedes OEM HID's are 5000k

As we know 4.3k is OEM

In my experience even 6k looks rubbish! 6k has a lot of blue in it!

So id imagine 8k would be horrendously blue/purple!

Anything above 4.3k just screams out to me fake / chav

MB and BMW are starting to fit 5000k as standard instead of 4300k (4its 4300k not 4.3k, the k is a unit of measurement, Kelvin, not short for thousand. )

I mean when fitted on cars without washers and self leveling etc

Not this one again....

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_170.htm

Just going to leave this here:

ehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp self levelling system.

Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given.

Notice the word may be fitted not must be fitted