Any one know of any problems with this new type of gearbox.

Thanks

Kev

yeah, when in tiptronic mode, you tend to forget when to shift up/down a gear and rev the nuts off it.

Apart from that, not a sausage as far as I know.

Any one know of any problems with this new type of gearbox.

Thanks

Kev

No problem if you leave the car standard but it will not take the amount of torque a remapped tdi will give.

Cheers

Lee

No problem if you leave the car standard but it will not take the amount of torque a remapped tdi will give.

Cheers

Lee

Is that for certain?!

They can be remapped, its just most people have a different map with a slightly more forgiving torque curve for the DSG.

They can be remapped, its just most people have a different map with a slightly more forgiving torque curve for the DSG.

Isn't that more of an issue with the 2.0 tdi than the 1.9 which has about 75% of the 2.0's torque when standard?

Is it the same gearbox for the 1.9 and 2.0 then?

ask vw about the toureg

Is it the same gearbox for the 1.9 and 2.0 then?

Same DSG 'box. Think there is only one across whole of VAG with published torque capacity of 350nm - about 260 lbft. Octavia tdi engine torque figures about 184 and 236 lbft??

ask vw about the toureg

Doesnt come with a DSG box though.

i thought it was the dsg that the toureg kept exploding, ohwell. i stand corrected

If you have a hunt around on the Audi TT forums, you'll see that a few of them have had trouble with 'hesitation' with the DSG box. It is fair to say that if you come up to a roundabout or junction and try to pull away quickly without stopping the DSG can take a few tenths of a second to sort itself out - but this is the same as hastily trying to grab a gear yourself with a manual! In the Octy it's slightly worse too, as you tend to find yourself in the non-turbo 'dead' zone until the revs get high enough.

Overall though, I still think it's a fantastic gearbox I've done 7,600 miles so far and I love it.

If you have a hunt around on the Audi TT forums' date=' you'll see that a few of them have had trouble with 'hesitation' with the DSG box. It is fair to say that if you come up to a roundabout or junction and try to pull away quickly without stopping the DSG can take a few tenths of a second to sort itself out - but this is the same as hastily trying to grab a gear yourself with a manual! In the Octy it's slightly worse too, as you tend to find yourself in the non-turbo 'dead' zone until the revs get high enough.

Overall though, I still think it's a fantastic gearbox I've done 7,600 miles so far and I love it.[/quote']

So, are two possible solutions:-

1. To start slowing sooner for r'abouts to give the box more time (if practical in the traffic conditions)?

2. Knock it into Tip. and select the ratio you want under braking just before reaching the r'about?

Excuse my ignorance but I've yet to try the DSG so am very keen to pick up on all the feedback going before I do. I don't have any difficulty with the idea of using the box manually when appropriate although I understand some may think this destroys the point of having it in the first place.

Overall though, I still think it's a fantastic gearbox I've done 7,600 miles so far and I love it.

I know Josh drove the GTi with DSG and he thought it was the dogs danglies.

Drove a A3 2.0TDI DSG. Very nice indeed. But think I'd stick the me nob

i thought it was the dsg that the toureg kept exploding, ohwell. i stand corrected

No it was the engine.

So' date=' are two possible solutions:-

1. To start slowing sooner for r'abouts to give the box more time (if practical in the traffic conditions)?

2. Knock it into Tip. and select the ratio you want under braking just before reaching the r'about?

Excuse my ignorance but I've yet to try the DSG so am very keen to pick up on all the feedback going before I do. I don't have any difficulty with the idea of using the box manually when appropriate although I understand some may think this destroys the point of having it in the first place.[/quote']

It doesn't seem to be related to the time needed for changing down - in other words it will select second gear, just like you would if you were in a manual, no matter how fast you come bowling up to the roundabout. The problem seems to be when it disengages the clutch (which it does when you're trickling along in 2nd - again much like you would in a manual). If you then give it a reasonable prod, it just takes a bit of time to re-engage the clutch (won't slip it like you could in a manual), and get the turbo spooled up. Moral of the story - don't try any heroics at junctions and roundabouts!! The answer is to make this a particular test on the test drive - slow to 10mph or so, then give it a bootful. If you think you can live with it, fine - otherwise at least you know before you sign the form!

This only happens at those moments when you think you're going to stop, and at the last minute think there's a tiny gap you can get into.

As far as using the tiptronic and changing gear yourself destroying the point of having the gearbox in the first place - I don't agree! I think the thing that makes the DSG unique is that you can choose the best of both worlds. If you're feeling lazy (which I do, 99% of the time), you can leave it in 'D' and let it do all the work for you, but if you come across a road where you really want to have a hoot, then you can take over and enjoy all the benefits (proper engine braking etc) of a proper manual gearbox.

hope that helps

Thanks, Patrick

Mike G

It doesn't seem to be related to the time needed for changing down - in other words it will select second gear' date=' just like you would if you were in a manual, no matter how fast you come bowling up to the roundabout. The problem seems to be when it disengages the clutch (which it does when you're trickling along in 2nd - again much like you would in a manual). If you then give it a reasonable prod, it just takes a bit of time to re-engage the clutch (won't slip it like you could in a manual), and get the turbo spooled up. Moral of the story - don't try any heroics at junctions and roundabouts!! The answer is to make this a particular test on the test drive - slow to 10mph or so, then give it a bootful. If you think you can live with it, fine - otherwise at least you know before you sign the form!

This only happens at those moments when you think you're going to stop, and at the last minute think there's a tiny gap you can get into.

As far as using the tiptronic and changing gear yourself destroying the point of having the gearbox in the first place - I don't agree! I think the thing that makes the DSG unique is that you can choose the best of both worlds. If you're feeling lazy (which I do, 99% of the time), you can leave it in 'D' and let it do all the work for you, but if you come across a road where you really want to have a hoot, then you can take over and enjoy all the benefits (proper engine braking etc) of a proper manual gearbox.

hope that helps[/quote']

Patnmand is so right.

And of course a normal auto box in a petrol car does just the same. I've just ordered my 2.0DSG to replace a Honda Accord 2.0 auto, which has tiptronic. I have driven auto cars for 12 years, and would not go back to manual. Tiptronic is real fun but i only use it once or twice a month. There's just no need most of the time.

I can out accelerate most people, but the slowing down / ready to go again is an issue in all the cars i have driven.

Even in manual cars, there is the issue of coasting up to a roundabout, and instead of being in top gear, you want to be in 1st. Or worse, you have assumed you are going to stop so are there with clutch in and stick in 1st, but if you drop the clutch you'll blow the engine cos you're at a speed that needs to be in second.

Wow, life isn't perfect

REMEMBER, IN AN AUTO OR DSG YOU CANNOT STALL HALF WAY OUT FROM YOUR JUNCTION!