And i always wondered why people find detailing so confusing.....so many opinions and so many people think they're right and others are wrong ffs.

So what would you advocate?

Sorry chris, im no expert at detailing either amateur or professional so my opinion and what i do for my cars would not be worth talking about all i know is when i "detail" my car im v happy and thats all that really matters isn't it. Happy new year to ya chris btw.

OK...everyone to their own

BUT

Why post in a detailing thread where it is asking for advice, if you cannot offer any?

Oh dear i didn't know that every post has to incorporate advice in it. saying that i have only contributed  a measly 505 posts which is nothing compared to your 11253 posts which i'm sure are 100% advice based. !!! 

Let's keep it all nice and friendly people.

 

This isn't DW you know

Let's keep it all nice a friendly people.

 

This isn't DW you know

thanks sparkly your right. Happy new year to ya.

I mean no offence OCD

He did ask for advice on Claybars afterall

IMO he was offered simple and non confusing advice from a few of us that do know about such things

So please explain :

so many opinions and so many people think they're right and others are wrong ffs.

 

because I'm struggling to understand your post

Hi Chris. I'll explain it to u in the way that i was thinking.. i just thought that for someone who is new to detailing and is looking for advice and is then reading the posts on this thread, it must be confusing when you - a self-titled amateur detailer - post with ur opinion and then someone who says they are a professional detailer (DavidJN) states his opinion which is conflicting with ur opinion. Chris don't get me wrong when i see ur posts coming up i always like to read them because you give good advice but i would call myself good at detailing but for a newbie to detailing all of the conflicting messages must be confusing. That's all i meant.. i hope you didn't take it the wrong way. No offence.

No conflicting advice at all

I too use warm water with Bilt Hamber Clay if it was a cold day and using a medium grade

But soft BH Clay works as well, I find, in cold water

You will also find that Pro detailers have their own techniques and favoured products just like we amateurs do

In the end we all land in the same direction and not belly up

Hope this explains my angle in this thread and others you've read

Thanks for clarifying yours

No advice in this post but:

 

Am thinking about claying the car in the spring and this is an interesting thread.  Does claying take off wax or not?  Doesn't sound like too hard a question.  The answer will likely be yes but must surely also depend on how 'hard' you clay (is that a verb?), which clay you use and which wax/LSP is on the car.

 

So, where's the science?!  I know a bit about clay, as in soil chemistry, but not as in Bilt Hamber on my motor :think:

Edited 9 January, 201412 yr by Yearofthegoat

Yes... Clay removes wax

Bilt Hamber uses water for its lubricant

Add some washing up liquid and APC in the mix and it makes a nice slippy lube which aids in LSP removal and reduces any chance of marring

I've found washing (clothes) conditioner into the mix helps in ref to the soapy / lubey nature of the water when claying.  Never tried a bit of fairy though.  Might try that to see the difference next fill-up.  

I've always used soapy water with my BH Clay but was gifted some wolfgang/pinnacle Clay Lube in a recent detailing order.

 

Going to be interesting giving it a go.

 

Does anyone know why/what is it about BH clay that it can be used with water and others can't?  Is it less aggressive? Different composition?

 

Also I am presuming I wont lessen the effectiveness of a water lubed clay if I used a dedicated lube.  Just wondering if in theory the lube might create a slippy slidey barrier that could impede the effectiveness of the BH Clay.  Sounds like rubbish so probably is, just thinking out loud.

 

ps. I will be claying my car in the near future so will be testing this in practice anyway but always curious to hear what others think.

I've found washing (clothes) conditioner into the mix helps in ref to the soapy / lubey nature of the water when claying.  Never tried a bit of fairy though.  Might try that to see the difference next fill-up.  

Being as I live in a very hard water area I use de-ionised water in my spray to avoid the dreaded water marks.

Being as I live in a very hard water area I use de-ionised water in my spray to avoid the dreaded water marks.

 

Hey now that's a good idea.  Hadn't occurred to me - thanks.

...or use a detailing spray to help dry it