Hi Everyone,

Just browsing though the posts. Mike Holroyd's comment about DMF's caught my eye:

"Skoda UK are so confident in the conversion that they replace failed dual mass flywheels on the 1.9TDI with solid when they do any warranty replacements."

My 2005 1.9Tdi had a warranty replacement in its 2nd year (with about 13k on the clock). Would anyone know the likelihood of it now having a solid flywheel (or how I could find this out).

As it's now on 83k, I'd been wondering if I can expect a re-occurrence of the DMF problem in the next 2 years or so (which would influence the decision whether to keep or replace it). If, in 2007, it got a solid flywheel I'd be more inclined to keep it.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

My view is that Skoda (the manufacturer) wouldn't sanction a claim for replacing a DMF with a solid one as the engine is designed to have a DMF.  Skoda UK (the importer) wouldn't allow the claim for a DMF replacement using non Skoda part numbers and they may well have a system in place where Skoda parts can't be entered on the claim if there is no record of the dealer ordering them.  Skoda (the dealer, who doesn't have any connection with the importer and manufacturer, other than selling Skodas imported by Skoda UK), could possibly have fitted a solid flywheel instead of a DMF and somehow got the claim through, possibly by not putting all the details on the claim and told the customer that Skoda UK have approved the claim.

 

I think that if your car left the factory with a DMF, it's quite likely that your car still has a DMF.

My DMF was replaced at 35 K with a "genuine" SMF and clutch in its 3rd year. They were told by SUK to do this. When I p/x the car at 70K it was still perfect

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My view is that Skoda (the manufacturer) wouldn't sanction a claim for replacing a DMF with a solid one as the engine is designed to have a DMF.  Skoda UK (the importer) wouldn't allow the claim for a DMF replacement using non Skoda part numbers and they may well have a system in place where Skoda parts can't be entered on the claim if there is no record of the dealer ordering them.  Skoda (the dealer, who doesn't have any connection with the importer and manufacturer, other than selling Skodas imported by Skoda UK), could possibly have fitted a solid flywheel instead of a DMF and somehow got the claim through, possibly by not putting all the details on the claim and told the customer that Skoda UK have approved the claim.

I think that if your car left the factory with a DMF, it's quite likely that your car still has a DMF.

 

 

 

 

 

The 1.9 TDi PD engine has the same bottom end - crankcase, crankshaft as the earlier model (pre PD), and as the earlier model engine was I think used in many vehicles without a DMF, then there is nothing to suppose that the PD engine was designed specifically to use a DMF.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Volkswagen_Group_diesel_engines

 

If VAG made design changes to the crankshaft in the later 2.0L models, then this may be the reason why you cannot find any SF conversions for that engine.

There are many people who have had the DMF replaced by a SF under warranty, and are happy with it.

Edited 12 December, 201312 yr by andyoctavia

In around 2007/2008 the Genuine Skoda DMF was superceded with a modified part. I had one of these put in on a warranty claim at 130,000kms and it is still in the car at 613,000kms.

I have driven Mike's converted SMF Octavia and have to say what a difference it made to the car.  Drive take up was much smoother and it seemed to accelerate much more freely without the awful vibrations and harshness of the DMF I had in mine.

 

Hope you are settled now Mike in East and Merry Christmas to you.

The difference between the 2 flywheels is amazing.

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