Young Ree is a bus driver in and around Chester, and as you can imagine, it's very busy and chaotic around the narrow streets there at the mo.

 

Yesterday, he was actually running a couple of minutes early as he pulled up at a stop to unload /l oad passengers.

He couldn't actually get into the bay, as a taxi driver was using it to simultaneously let his passenger out.

 

Consequently, and wih many other buses swarming around him, he had to 'double park' and remain stationery for two minutes.

He couldn't move forwards as there was another bus in front of him, presumably doing something similar?

 

The taxi driver had to maneuver his Superb back and forth to squeeze out from behind young R's bus, but then proceeded to TRIPLE park alongside him, hollering abuse at him for parking where he was!

 

Ree jnr politely but firmly told him why he was remaining stationery for a mere 2 minutes, but it cut no ice with this slob, who then launched into more foul language for the crowded street to hear, aimed at him.

My lad had the intelligence to shake his head and slam his window shut and ignore the cretin, mindful that everything they do and say is being recorded in and outside the bus anyway

 

One of the passengers backed young Ree up telling him that the taxi driver was actually breaking the law, as it's a B U S stop, not a taxi stop.

 

Want clarification on this before one of us (probably me...as ever  :think:  ) considers contacting King Kabs to complain .

 

Bang out of order hollering abuse in a crowded street regardless of the legality of the parking anyway imo.

Edited 18 December, 201312 yr by Mr Ree

Your son is employed, surely leave the Employers to deal with it.  

Does you son not have training and proper advise on dealing with these type of situations, and a knowledge of the law passed on by the Bus Operator.

LIcensed Taxi Driver and bad behaviour is a reportable offence.

 

A friend of mine was dropping off a Disabled Customer from a Taxi at a Hospital and an Ambulance Blocked him in and refused to move to let him away, the ambulance had no patient collected yet, so was there to wait for one.

He was prosecuted and had his Taxi Badge Suspended pending winning the Appeal to the Council Board

& then the court case for abuse to the female driver of the Ambulance.

The Sheriff asked the Ambulance Driver if they were working the day they appeared in court as a witness,

& since she was not, why she appeared in court wearing her Uniform.

 

Does the bus not have cameras?

Young Ree is a bus driver in and around Chester, and as you can imagine, it's very busy and chaotic around the narrow streets there at the mo.

Yesterday, he was actually running a couple of minutes early as he pulled up at a stop to unload /l oad passengers.

He couldn't actually get into the bay, as a taxi driver was using it to simultaneously let his passenger out.

Consequently, and wih many other buses swarming around him, he had to 'double park' and remain stationery for two minutes.

He couldn't move forwards as there was another bus in front of him, presumably doing something similar?

The taxi driver had to maneuver his Superb back and forth to squeeze out from behind young R's bus, but then proceeded to TRIPLE park alongside him, hollering abuse at him for parking where he was!

Ree jnr politely but firmly told him why he was remaining stationery for a mere 2 minutes, but it cut no ice with this slob, who then launched into more foul language for the crowded street to hear, aimed at him.

My lad had the intelligence to shake his head and slam his window shut and ignore the cretin, mindful that everything they do and say is being recorded in and outside the bus anyway

One of the passengers backed young Ree up telling him that the taxi driver was actually breaking the law, as it's a B U S stop, not a taxi stop.

Want clarification on this before one of us (probably me...as ever :think: ) considers contacting King Kabs to complain .

Bang out of order hollering abuse in a crowded street regardless of the legality of the parking anyway imo.

Report the incident to his boss, then move on

Your son is employed, surely leave the Employers to deal with it.  

Does you son not have training and proper advise on dealing with these type of situations, and a knowledge of the law passed on by the Bus Operator.

 

Does the bus not have cameras?

His employer wasn't with him, as they tend to go out alone.

 

I'm merely asking the question as to whether or not it is legal for a TAXI to park in a bus stop.

That is one issue to be considered first before any POSSIBLE action, either through him, myself or his employer, who probably won't give a flying duck anyway tbh, the other one being the vocal abuse hurling.

 

I've no idea if the employer have given him instructions on what to do in such situations, but my guess is that they'd simply expect you to use your own initiative, which is basically what he did.

Report the incident to his boss, then move on

He mentioned it briefly to the union rep when he returned to the depot.

 

He just shook his head and said, "typical bloody impatient taxi drivers for you".

With a due respect, it goes both ways and I've witnessing bus drivers hurling abuse at other road users for no apparent reason so just part of the course no?

Your son is employed, surely leave the Employers to deal with it.  

Does you son not have training and proper advise on dealing with these type of situations, and a knowledge of the law passed on by the Bus Operator.

LIcensed Taxi Driver and bad behaviour is a reportable offence.

 

A friend of mine was dropping off a Disabled Customer from a Taxi at a Hospital and an Ambulance Blocked him in and refused to move to let him away, the ambulance had no patient collected yet, so was there to wait for one.

He was prosecuted and had his Taxi Badge Suspended pending winning the Appeal to the Council Board

& then the court case for abuse to the female driver of the Ambulance.

The Sheriff asked the Ambulance Driver if they were working the day they appeared in court as a witness,

& since she was not, why she appeared in court wearing her Uniform.

 

Does the bus not have cameras?

 

 

Yes, inside and out,as mentioned in OP

Employers are often not with Employees, but they are responsible for, their care and well being and training and behaviour.

 

Check the Bye Laws and traffic restrictions for the town and area it is in.  Different Strokes for different folks in different towns and Cities.

Road Markings and advice is in the Highway code.

 

george

 

EDIT, 

Since there are cameras, then sorted.

He does not work for a Union Rep, he works for an Employer, Bus Company, he fills in a report and covers himself, first,

then may speak officially to a Union Rep.

Verbal Reports should always be put in Writing.

Formal requests on how to Report should be put in Writing, Copy to the Employer, copy to the Union if in one.

With a due respect, it goes both ways and I've witnessing bus drivers hurling abuse at other road users for no apparent reason so just part of the course no?

Granted.

 

Same goes for car drivers, wagon drivers, cylists, bikers, pedestrians.

 

i repeat, I was MERELY asking if it's legal or not to park in a ruddy BUS STOP, not for an argument on the rights and wrongs on who should do or say flamin' what to who what why or when!!

Unless marked as a no parking, stopping  it might well be legal to park/wait temporarily or stop in a Bus Stop if driving a Licensed Taxi..

 

Best check the local situation, the likes of bus stop in a Bus/Taxi only lane etc.

No Stopping routes but with Bus Stops might well require Taxis to use Bus Stops.

 

A Taxi stopping in a Bus Stop might well be different from a Private car stopping.

Cars with a Blue Badge might well drive in Some Bus/Taxi only lanes, Pedestrian Areas etc.  

A Taxi with a Disabled Customer may legally in many towns/cities stop to collect or drop off in many places that other drivers might be prosecuted for being in or on.

Sorry Mr Ree, wasn't trying to spark an argument but if that was the main point of your opening post, it got lost with the rest of the story and I missed it

Unless marked as a no parking, stopping  it might well be legal to park/wait temporarily or stop in a Bus Stop if driving a Licensed Taxi..

 

Best check the local situation, the likes of bus stop in a Bus/Taxi only lane etc.

No Stopping routes but with Bus Stops might well require Taxis to use Bus Stops.

 

A Taxi stopping in a Bus Stop might well be different from a Private car stopping.

Cars with a Blue Badge might well drive in Some Bus/Taxi only lanes, Pedestrian Areas etc.  

A Taxi with a Disabled Customer may legally in many towns/cities stop to collect or drop off in many places that other drivers might be prosecuted for being in or on.

 

 

tell you what, I'll go and buy a latest edition of the highway code to clarify all this.

 

I think on reflection, that it's the abuse hurling that has 'got my goat'  more then the legality of the taxi parking rights in a designated bus stop.

 

If he'd kept his big fat ignorant slot gob shut, then this would never have even been mentioned to me.

 

Can't stand it when someone is just trying to do their job and some other idiot starts giving someone / anyone a hard verbal time due to their impatience and pig thick ignorance.

 

Regardless of the legality again, even if entitled to do so, he should be old and wise enough being a PROFESSIONAL driver  to realise that my son wasn't just sitting there blocking him in (nearly) for the good of his health or  a bit of a laugh.

Edited 18 December, 201312 yr by Mr Ree

Threatened, intimidated etc in any way, simply report to Police with full circumstances and they can do their thing on the matter and look into the parking side, then causing an obstruction and then the unacceptable behaviour.

If his company are the sort who wouldn't care, is he a member of a union? Doesn't take much for companies to be supportive of their drivers and it goes a long way to keeping good employees. I appreciate this to them could be something that happens 20 times a day to their drivers, but still could at least pull their CCTV if a driver reports it to them and forward it on to the relevant authority.  

 

As sk4gw said above the specific location and rules governing it with regards to the can he or can't he stop at the bus stop. Generally it's a blanket no, but worth checking. A call to local council or email asking about that bus stop number etc might get a quick yes/no. 

Highway code available online and right as upto date as a Hard Copy that was printed sometime ago.

 

http://gov.uk/waiting-and-parking

 

an example of the type of thing you might find for the area concerned.

http://www.worcester.gov.uk/index.php?id=1848

Why not give the council a ring as they are responsible for issueing the taxi driver with his operating licence. They will probably be able to tell you where taxis are and are not allowed to park and may also have rules that apply regarding their conduct to other drivers too. Taxi drivers have a difficult job to do but that doesn't excuse his behaviour.

Highway code available online and right as upto date as a Hard Copy that was printed sometime ago.

 

http://gov.uk/waiting-and-parking

 

an example of the type of thing you might find for the area concerned.

http://www.worcester.gov.uk/index.php?id=1848

 

Still a bit ambiguous.

 

States no stopping or parking, but doesn't state if allowed by certain road users or certain given circumstances.

 

Thanks for taking the time and trouble to dig the info out anyway George.

 

All buses within the Chester area have to run with their headlights on you may be keen to know!

Not fog lights however. 

Edited 18 December, 201312 yr by Mr Ree

Why not give the council a ring as they are responsible for issueing the taxi driver with his operating licence. They will probably be able to tell you where taxis are and are not allowed to park and may also have rules that apply regarding their conduct to other drivers too. Taxi drivers have a difficult job to do but that doesn't excuse his behaviour.

 

I know, and I've driven both in years gone by.

With a due respect, it goes both ways and I've witnessing bus drivers hurling abuse at other road users for no apparent reason so just part of the course no?

 

Does that mean that because one bus driver somewhere has abused someone, it's OK to go round and abuse the rest of them? 

 

As for the OP, I probably get **** on a weekly basis, if I let it get to me or reported every incident I'd do nothing else but fill forms out and sit in the police station waiting room. Just tell him to remember the face/car/number plate and stitch the driver up, their paths will cross again at some point and it's far more satisfying blocking the cab in a leaving it stuck somewhere for 10/15/20 min  

A taxi can only stop at a bus stop if the local by laws allow it.

Otherwise it's a no.

It will often be seen as a waste of time by others, but if you do want to take it further report the driver to his licensing authority for his aggressive and threatening behaviour.

I'd be wary of fighting your son's battles for him if you were not there.

He's probably big enough to do it himself if he really cares that much.

A taxi can only stop at a bus stop if the local by laws allow it.

Otherwise it's a no.

It will often be seen as a waste of time by others, but if you do want to take it further report the driver to his licensing authority for his aggressive and threatening behaviour.

I'd be wary of fighting your son's battles for him if you were not there.

He's probably big enough to do it himself if he really cares that much.

 

 

Indeed. He's REALLY come out of his shell since he started doing this job, and doesn't take 'truck' off anyone now, passengers included if they verbally abuse him ( threw a woman off to a round of applause from the other passengers a few months ago    )

 

He's got the first 4 digits and colour of the Superb concerned, and reckons he'll recognise the fat head and mouth of the driver when he next see's him.

He really was absolutely  vile and extremely loud apparently, and  therefore considers it worthy of a 'word' in this particular instance.

 

I'd absolutely love it if the owner is a member in here and reads this, but it's probably a pool car that's rented out to several drivers unfortunately.

Anyway, he's going to have a quiet and 'polite' word with him apparently, and he'll be reminded that any further abuse WILL be reported to the council licensing office....just in time for the crimbo and new year monster earnings slot.

Edited 18 December, 201312 yr by Mr Ree

If it makes you any happier, I parked the van in a Taxi rank while I was dropping off a display stand earlier this year. They were not amused 

 

Didn't say "No loading" and I wasn't obstructing traffic, so I've every right to  :sun:

If it makes you any happier, I parked the van in a Taxi rank while I was dropping off a display stand earlier this year. They were not amused 

 

Didn't say "No loading" and I wasn't obstructing traffic, so I've every right to  :sun:

I'd be happier if it was a bus! 

 

I'm not suggesting that all taxi drivers are bad, but many are.

 

I worked for several different companies in the 70's and 80's and had to sit endure and listen to some of the others, usually whilst stuffing  their invariably  fat  red faces with an endless bottomless bag of chips.

Bone idle wasn't in it for the majority, sitting outside houses and pubs, early in the morning, illegally blasting their horn, due to bone idle legitus.

 

Never had problems with bus drivers tbh.

Edited 18 December, 201312 yr by Mr Ree

Does that mean that because one bus driver somewhere has abused someone, it's OK to go round and abuse the rest of them? 

 

As for the OP, I probably get **** on a weekly basis, if I let it get to me or reported every incident I'd do nothing else but fill forms out and sit in the police station waiting room. Just tell him to remember the face/car/number plate and stitch the driver up, their paths will cross again at some point and it's far more satisfying blocking the cab in a leaving it stuck somewhere for 10/15/20 min

Not at all. Two wrongs don't make a right, shouldn't tar everyone with the same, brush etc etc and that wasn't what I was getting at.

 

What I didn't add (wrote the above on a coffee break from my garage) and was meant to, was it's just a few words between professional drivers and something I would expect any driver on the road to experience. Nothing more or less and certainly nothing worth getting nickers in a twist about.

Not at all. Two wrongs don't make a right, shouldn't tar everyone with the same, brush etc etc and that wasn't what I was getting at.

 

What I didn't add (wrote the above on a coffee break from my garage) and was meant to, was it's just a few words between professional drivers and something I would expect any driver on the road to experience. Nothing more or less and certainly nothing worth getting nickers in a twist about.

 

 

Like Matt, young Ree gets it every day from all road users and pedestrians..... (had one yob started kicking  the side of his bus and  hurling abuse in the very busy Foregate Street a few Saturday's ago, 'cus he gently tapped his horn when the dead brain stepped  out right n front of him to warn him of his presence,).... but he barely ever mentions it.

He only mentioned this one to me last night as the great fat oaf was particularly vocal and abusive in a highly public very busy area.

Edited 18 December, 201312 yr by Mr Ree

Bus drivers do get a lot of abuse.

We've got a few that got fed up with it and find taking school children so much easier and prefer getting off shifts too.