Can confirm traffic sign recognition can be activated via vcds

http://m.flickr.com/photos/112847499@N08/11609227003/lightbox/

Excellent, what head unit do you have - Amundsen or Columbus?

Columbus, I had the normal traffic sign display on the Columbus from factory however not in the maxidot and it from the preloaded signs.

Enabled traffic sign recognition it now uses the camera to detect the signs and displays on both maxidot and Columbus.

Only small drawback is as our motorways don't generally have speed limit signs it doesn't show any speed limit on the motorway.

We should find out if the change will work with the standard camera on the Elegance - I presume you do not have lane assist Andyvee.

It doesn't - you need the Lane Assist Camera

Thought so.

I wonder if this will work with lane assist and admundsen?

Only one way to find out ........

 

I was wondering if the traffic sign recognition would work with a Bolero - i.e. is the sign recognition independent from the sat nav?

 

My only thought is that a colour Maxidot may be required.

To be honest I don't see the point of either lane assist or speed limit displays - is that not what road signs do? And holding a full driving licence should a driver not be aware of what speed limits are on different roads? If you are that tired that you are drifting across lanes are you not a risk to yourself and other drivers? All to easy to become to reliant on technology to the detriment of paying proper attention to the roads IMO.

Maybe I'm just old fashioned...

Edited 29 December, 201312 yr by Timoctav

To be honest I don't see the point of either lane assist or speed limit displays - is that not what road signs do? And holding a full driving licence should a driver not be aware of what speed limits are on different roads? If you are that tired that you are drifting across lanes are you not a risk to yourself and other drivers? All to easy to become to reliant on technology to the detriment of paying proper attention to the roads IMO.

Have you never been driving on an unfamiliar road and realised that you aren't 100% sure what the limit is? I have, usually when you spot a speed camera. There can be a few seconds of doubt as you look for confirmation.

It's easy enough to miss a single sign if you are concentrating on where you are going and what the traffic around you is doing, so a fallback system could come in handy.

To be honest I don't see the point of either lane assist or speed limit displays - is that not what road signs do? And holding a full driving licence should a driver not be aware of what speed limits are on different roads? If you are that tired that you are drifting across lanes are you not a risk to yourself and other drivers? All to easy to become to reliant on technology to the detriment of paying proper attention to the roads IMO.

 

This agrument has been had before - if you don't like driver assistance go and buy a 1970s Landrover that way you wont have power steering, ABS or brake servo assistance.

 

Personally I'd like to have traffic sign recognition on my car, I doubt I'll use it very often but it could be useful in certain circumstances and overall it's a toy and geeks like toys.

This agrument has been had before - if you don't like driver assistance go and buy a 1970s Landrover that way you wont have power steering, ABS or brake servo assistance......

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That's a silly and irrelevant comment. Of course technology per se is good, crumple zones, ABS, airbags, air con, sat nav all well worth while. But any competent and observant driver should be aware of speed limits on roads, as much as lanes, weather and other traffic conditions. It's known as road craft.

A few weeks ago I drove the new Audi S3 for a few hours ( unbelievably awful car by the way ) that had all the bells and whistles fitted, and very few of them I thought useful, amongst the good bits radar assisted cruise control beneficial, saves keep twiddling or braking when in varying traffic conditions on the motorway, side assist that warned of approaching cars in the vehicles blind spot again invaluable. But I didn't need assistance to stay in lane or to be told what the speed limits were.

Edited 29 December, 201312 yr by Timoctav

Personal choice is the way I look at it.

 

If the features are there and can be enabled, then why not!

That's a silly and irrelevant comment. Of course technology per se is good, crumple zones, ABS, airbags, air con, sat nav all well worth while. But any competent and observant driver should be aware of speed limits on roads, as much as weather and other traffic conditions. It's known as road craft.

 

 

Not really - lets just looks at ABS.  ABS is a great system but can be a bl**dy pain in certain circumstances same with traction control, if everyone was perfect none of us should have ABS on our cars as we'd not need it because surely every good driver should be able to work out whether a road is wet for example, after all plenty of people managed before ABS.  Just imagine if all drivers were great drivers there'd be hardly any need for any safety systems as there'd never been any driver error so the only accidents would be animals jumping out etc.  Think of the extra cost in money and fuel caused by needed safety systems, we'd be better off and have less impact on the environment if only we could always be perfect drivers.

 

Personally, on a wholly safety and high level aspect, the faster we all move to completely self driving cars the better.

 

I do agree with you when you say drivers should be aware of what's happening on the road.  However as Dr Zoidberg says there are times when the traffic sign recognition could be useful.  There are plenty of places in the UK where you can come round a corner and have a sudden change from 60 to 40, for example, with a sigle sign half covered by trees and then a speed camera, whether traffic sign recognition would help is another matter.

 

Overall I think we need far stricter driving assessment, far tighter licencing for vehicle classes (to avoid someone passing in a micra and jumping in a ferrari or 3.5 ton van for example) less nannying in regards to laws (less speed camera and better enforcment of laws against bad driving) and compulsory retesting after specific periods of time.  Driver assistance should be there as a safety net and not something to rely on everyday.

 

As Andyvee says - it's personal choice, if you don't like it don't have it enabled.

Edited 29 December, 201312 yr by gullyg

Overall I think we need far stricter driving assessment, far tighter licencing for vehicle classes (to avoid someone passing in a micra and jumping in a ferrari or 3.5 ton van for example) less nannying in regards to laws (less speed camera and better enforcment of laws against bad driving) and compulsory retesting after specific periods of time. Driver assistance should be there as a safety net and not something to rely on everyday.

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You'll get no argument from me on that one. Legally there is nothing to stop a wealthy 17 year old passing his / her driving test in a Micra and buying a 750 bhp Ferrari F12. Crazy as you say. I'm also for more police patrols on the roads and less revenue (sorry speed) cameras although these do have their place at dangerous road junctions - but not on perfectly safe roads! The best safety net you can have is to drive within your limits in accordance with road, weather and traffic conditions.

Yes safety technology is great, have a half day at the excellent Porsche Driving Experience Centre at Silverstone drive a 911 there on a low friction surface with the stability management system on - and then try it with the system turned off...... I do recommend that facility to anyone, it is available to all, not just Porsche owners, you can use your own car or a Porsche - the slalom course and kick plate are amazing, the kick plate in particular which simulates an icy road, as you drive into the plate it is shifted either to the right or left causing the car to completely loose grip and you have to try to catch it. Easy at 18 mph... At 20 mph a completely different proposition!

Edited 29 December, 201312 yr by Timoctav

That's a silly and irrelevant comment. Of course technology per se is good, crumple zones, ABS, airbags, air con, sat nav all well worth while. 

 

But you don't need Sat Nav, what's wrong with a paper fold out map and a bit of planning?

But you don't need Sat Nav, what's wrong with a paper fold out map and a bit of planning?

I am still trying to find out where the starting handle fits on the new Octavia....

Is it me, or is it becoming a common thread in the O3 section for threads to go rapidly off topic?

 

This thread is about the possibility of enabling Traffic Sign Recognition with VCDS, not whether it is needed or not etc. etc.

Is it me, or is it becoming a common thread in the O3 section for threads to go rapidly off topic?

This thread is about the possibility of enabling Traffic Sign Recognition with VCDS, not whether it is needed or not etc. etc.

I though that question had been answered, as I understand it if you don't have Columbus AND lane assist then it can't. I see no issue with a bit of digression thereafter.

Edited 29 December, 201312 yr by Timoctav

I wasn't aware it had been answered, you need the Lane Assist camera and possibly colour Maxidot, but not sure if it is Columbus only.

 

I've put the wheels in motion for a pinned VCDS adaptations thread that will be locked so it is easy for people to find useful information that they need and not have to wade through threads for the answers.

 

Digression can quite happily happen in other threads then :-)

 

ollybroad, did you enable it as per http://www.stemei.de/pages/coding/seat-leon-5f/verkehrszeichenanzeige-aktivieren.php ?

 

If so, any chances of some screen shots of the VCDS screens and a slightly better explanation than the google translate version? I'll add it to the VCDS sticky.

 

I've put the wheels in motion for a pinned VCDS adaptations thread that will be locked so it is easy for people to find useful information that they need and not have to wade through threads for the answers.

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Sounds like a good idea.

Done!

 

It is in the VCDS section and is locked, so I can keep it updated. If anyone has anything to add, PM me.

 

There is a pinned thread in the O3 section with the link.

 

I'll get it updated over the next couple of days with everything I have tried and proven to work, or others have. It will have screenshots of each procedure to make it easy for others to do as well.

I wasn't aware it had been answered, you need the Lane Assist camera and possibly colour Maxidot, but not sure if it is Columbus only.

I've put the wheels in motion for a pinned VCDS adaptations thread that will be locked so it is easy for people to find useful information that they need and not have to wade through threads for the answers.

Digression can quite happily happen in other threads then :-)

ollybroad, did you enable it as per http://www.stemei.de/pages/coding/seat-leon-5f/verkehrszeichenanzeige-aktivieren.php ?

If so, any chances of some screen shots of the VCDS screens and a slightly better explanation than the google translate version? I'll add it to the VCDS sticky.

Yes and no, the security access mentioned on the website didn't work. I couldn't find a working one either. I will write up what I enabled.

I enabled this on a vrs with lane assist, headlight assist, columbus with colour maxidot.

Have you never been driving on an unfamiliar road and realised that you aren't 100% sure what the limit is? I have, usually when you spot a speed camera. There can be a few seconds of doubt as you look for confirmation.

It's easy enough to miss a single sign if you are concentrating on where you are going and what the traffic around you is doing, so a fallback system could come in handy.

 

If in doubt assume it's 30 !!

Columbus, I had the normal traffic sign display on the Columbus from factory however not in the maxidot and it from the preloaded signs.

Enabled traffic sign recognition it now uses the camera to detect the signs and displays on both maxidot and Columbus.

Only small drawback is as our motorways don't generally have speed limit signs it doesn't show any speed limit on the motorway.

I thought traffic sign recognition was standard on a VRS with a Columbus - but this is not the case as it's not on mine!! Is the only way of enabling this via VCDS then?

 

I wonder if the dealer can do it? (Not likely I know but I might ask)