Has anyone had any problems passing their mot with dpf removed?

Don't think the new rules are applicable yet, but there's some that have had them removed getting nervous

Mines been removed, MOT is next month  :(

Please let us know how you get on.

Will give you update, hope it pass MOT.

Is it not just a visual? As long as it is neat and not a different exhaust they shouldn't know?

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Done to death here...

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/297243-dpf-removal-check-to-be-part-of-uk-mot-test-from-february-2014/page-1?hl=+dpf

 

Took my Octavia down to the local garage / MOT station this evening for a new exhaust temp sensor. I told him I hoped it wasn't the DPF.

 

He said, don't worry if it is, just have it gutted, it'll still pass.

Mine hasn't had a DPF for over 2 years (2007 Octavia Tdi Vrs) passes MOT emissions no problem. Tested mentioned that emissions were better than some 3 yr old cars, I did mention it had been removed.

i believe its not being back dated so only cars made after feb will be auto fails. Least thats what i've heard.

 

As silver said, its been done to death

car wont fail if the dpf is visually in place, mine is, just nothing in it and passes emissions fine. 

 

I pointed out the other day that my egr isnt fitted anymore and the response I got was "its under the engine cover so I can't see it!"

 

Just people on here trying to spook people with duff info, if you have a stainless manifold and straight through pipe that is clearly visible and your tester is a pedantic pr*ck then you may have some issues.

Biggest definite issue is if you trade in. Garages are and will check for EGR and DPF and make you sign something to say it hasn't been removed during your ownership.

One of the inlaws has just changed cars and their tech had to check it over 1st. Was a main dealer.

So the dealers are also concerned at the exorbitant cost of a DPF replacement and the high rates of premature failure?

 

Perhaps if the cost for a new DPF wasn't nudging £1,500 then people wouldn't feel that the only viable option is to have the bloody thing taken off.

 

I'm all for being environmentally responsible and would never ordinarily bend the rules to get a car through its MOT but what alternative is there?

 

But why should the manufacturer's care? The vast majority of issues occur (just) out of warranty.

The vast majority of DPF won't have any issue at all.

But as removal or using a car with one removed is illegal, if a dealer sold a car without a DPF which then wouldn't pass an MOT without one, that's a big bill they would be liable for as the seller.

Hence they're all busy checking their stock and any new cars

Biggest definite issue is if you trade in. Garages are and will check for EGR and DPF and make you sign something to say it hasn't been removed during your ownership.

One of the inlaws has just changed cars and their tech had to check it over 1st. Was a main dealer.

 

Mines a 2007 and I'm sure its to old for a main dealer to touch now.

 

becides, any issues with getting an mot in the trade would result in...... they would MOT it themselves!

yes there will be legislation and guidlines but we all know how the real world works.

 

the trade will always find away around any issues.

Out of curiosity, has anyone seen specific details of how this will actually be implemented?

 

Changes to the MOT testers manual are often published quite well in advance, but the gov.uk sites still have a manual from April 2013 with no mention of this new check. A bit odd since it is supposed to start next month. All I can find are press releases with no actual detail. Do any MOT testers on here know anything about the final details of it yet?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/263018/diesel-particulate-filters-guidance.pdf

 

this is all i can see. I would have thought there would be more information though

The exact wording from the updated MOT testers manual can be found in the thread linked in post #7.

Legal requirements and the MoT test

 

From February 2014 the inspection of the exhaust system carried out during the MoT test will include a check for the presence of a DPF. A missing DPF, where one was fitted when the vehicle was built, will result in an MoT failure.

 

A vehicle might still pass the MoT visible smoke emissions test, which is primarily intended to identify vehicles that are in a very poor state of repair, whilst emitting illegal and harmful levels of fine exhaust particulate.

 

It is an offence under the Road vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations (Regulation 61a(3))¹ to use a vehicle which has been modified in such a way that it no longer complies with the air pollutant emissions standards it was designed to meet. Removal of a DPF will almost invariably contravene these requirements, making the vehicle illegal for road use. The potential penalties for failing to comply

 

 

So in a nut shell, it will pass lol, but its illegal, but a pass!

 

and if you go by the letter of the law then, anyone fitting anything which alters emissions on any vehicle "Should" fail an MOT.

 

I aint fussed! if numpty chavtastic can run around in an un serviced saxo bellowing smoke through his "custom" drainpipe exhaust due to no valve stem oil seals then my little VRS is the least of my worries.

The exact wording from the updated MOT testers manual can be found in the thread linked in post #7.

Perhaps I'm missing something, I can see the Guidance Notes, but not the actual updated tester's manual wording??

The current testers manual still makes no mention of it:

http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/doitonline/bl/mottestingmanualsandguides/mottestingmanualsandguides.htm

Are they really so woefully unprepared for something that is potentially coming into force in a little over a weeks time? (silly question?)