Hi Guys,

 

I'm new here, and to the world of Skoda.

 

I've just picked up a brand new 14 plate Roomster, unfortunately I didn't get to spec the car myself (Special Edition), but I though I would be able to swap out the Swing Radio for a RNS 315, run the mic cable, tick the box in VCDS and away I go. But... when I untick the box in the long coding section and then click Do It, it throws back an error code 22, and doesn't code the option.

 

I've tried coding other options, like disabling AUX2 for example, and the same thing happens. So I am assuming it's not related to the bluetooth option itself.

 

Could it be something in the CAN gateway that I am missing or something? I'm not sure where I should start looking with this.

 

Any help would be very much appreciated.

 

Cheers

 

Cris

Not all of the RNS315/Amundsen+ units have BT fitted, best way to check is to look for a MAC address on the headunit. If you don't see one or they are all zeros then unfortunately it doesn't have BT.

 

Search on forum as there is a picture of the label your looking for.

 

If your following my how to and ticking the box and you get an error more likely the answer is not fitted.

What software version of VCDS are you using?

I am using 12.12 

 

I checked the label before fitting, there is a MAC code on it.

 

No option will program, so I don't think it's the lack of a BT that is the problem. I can't program the code to the RNS315 at all. I can put it into developer mode, so I can talk to it, just not code it.

 

Cheers

 

Cris

any use?

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/287901-amundsen-bluetooth/?hl=%2Brns+%2B315#entry3421360

any use?

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/287901-amundsen-bluetooth/?hl=%2Brns+%2B315#entry3421360

 

I've got the only one listed under the Skoda section on that link.

 

I think the RNS315 I have is not correctly coded, but I don't know enough about VCDS to understand what the errors I am seeing mean, here are the outputs from the scan (edited down to the problem areas)...

 

Chassis Type: 5J (6N0)

Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 37 44 56 77

 

VIN: TMBPM65J5E5028913   

 

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000

04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000

10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010

25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb

   Part No SW: 5J0 920 911 M    HW: 5J0 920 911 M

   Component: KOMBI         H02 0408  

   Serial number: 00000020120521

   Coding: 410A00

   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00099

   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardUDSJCIPQ25 A01723

   ROD: EV_DashBoardUDSJCIPQ25_SK25.rod

   VCID: 3261028865D1A08E527-8067

 

1 Fault Found:

13654544 - Databus 

          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message

          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 6

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 12

                    Mileage: 56 km

                    Date: 2000.14.31

                    Time: 17:12:49

 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb

   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R7 937 087 P

   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H30 0565  

   Revision: -1------    

   Coding: 832300

   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00099

   VCID: F0E54880235D529EE43-80A5

 

1 Fault Found:

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 

            000 - - - Intermittent

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00100000

                    Fault Priority: 2

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 52

                    Mileage: 56 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2000.14.31

                    Time: 16:48:28

 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb

   Part No SW: 3T0 035 192 K    HW: 3T0 035 192 K

   Component: RNS315-EU   H59 0324  

   Serial number: SKZAZ2N0164579

   Coding: 040004210405000000018001

   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00083

   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705

   ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod

   VCID: 36693E9889B9BCAE7EF-8063

 

   Data medium: 

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 

   Component: EUR_W_V4  0050 

 

7 Faults Found:

1048578 - Supply voltage 

          U1011 00 [008] - Voltage too Low

          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 3

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 41

                    Mileage: 8 km

                    Date: 2001.14.30

                    Time: 16:20:27

 

1048580 - Function Restricted due to Insufficient Voltage 

          U1400 00 [008] - -

          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 6

                    Fault Frequency: 2

                    Reset counter: 41

                    Mileage: 8 km

                    Date: 2001.14.30

                    Time: 15:29:48

 

1048632 - Antenna 1 for Radio 

          B1119 13 [008] - Open Circuit

          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 5

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 67

                    Mileage: 9 km

                    Date: 2002.14.03

                    Time: 15:31:26

 

1048634 - Antenna 2 for radio 

          B111A 13 [008] - Open Circuit

          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 5

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 67

                    Mileage: 9 km

                    Date: 2002.14.03

                    Time: 15:31:26

 

1048582 - GPS Antenna 

          B1054 13 [009] - Open Circuit

          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 5

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 1

                    Mileage: 9 km

                    Date: 2002.14.03

                    Time: 15:31:26

 

1048636 - Digital Radio Antenna 

          B1103 13 [008] - Open Circuit

          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 5

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 67

                    Mileage: 9 km

                    Date: 2002.14.03

                    Time: 15:31:26

 

1048659 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 

          U1111 00 [009] - -

          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00000001

                    Fault Priority: 6

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 27

                    Mileage: 205 km

                    Date: 2001.14.00

                    Time: 09:32:38

 

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                Address 37: Navigation

Control Module Part Number: 3T0 035 192 K

  Component and/or Version: RNS315-EU   H59 0324

           Software Coding: 040004210405000000018001

            Work Shop Code: WSC 33361

                      VCID: 36693E9889B9BCAE7EF-8063

 

Advanced Identification/FAZIT

     Serial number: SKZAZ2N0164579

     Identification: YD5-001

     Date: 07.03.13

     Manufacturer number: 0024

     Test stand number: 0003

Flash Status

Software

     BAP: 00.2F.01

     CAN: 01.02.00

     Theft prot.: 01.02.14

     ISO15765: 00.00.01

Misc.

     Hardware number: 3T0 035 192 K

     Workshop System Name: J794

     ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS

     ASAM Dataset Revision: 001705

VCDS Info:

       Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb

       ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod

Here is a screenshot of the error VCDS throws up when I try coding the Nav module...

 

Clear all the fault codes and try again, they look like they have been caused by disconnecting wires with the system still live.

 

The gateway errors and cluster errors should clear once the RNS is coded correctly.

Having an 'incorrectly coded' error on 19-CAN Gateway would be my starting point.

It is basically an 'instalation list' that needs the correct options ticked.

Maybe Bluetooth or something hasn't been ticked to enable it in the list.

Check there and post screen shots of the list if possible.

Then clear the codes and see what comes back as it is likely most/all have appeared as a result of changing the headunit.

That is also my guess, but I can't code the RNS315 at all, it throws back an error 22 (see the screen shot above), and then I'm stumped. So I thought I would try and pick few brains here.

 

It's really getting on my nerves now. I've tried clearing the codes and starting from scratch, still comes back with the same error 22, and coding I do gets rejected. 

 

Is it possible that the gateway on my car is not comparable with the module in the RNS315 ???

 

Cheers

 

Cris

Your gateway appears to be from a Roomster and fairly recent, so no reason why it shouldn't be.

Have you sent a full scan to Ross Tech (assuming you have a genuine cable & a support package)?

What are you trying to code in the 'Navigation' controller?

Have you unticked 77-Telephone? AFAIK that is for the external BT / telephone module not the inbuilt one. Just wondering if that is causing a conflict (doubt it though).

untick 77 as the BT is in the Radio

 

although I don't think it is that that is stopping the coding

Cleared all the codes, re scanned and only had one fault left, that was the GPS antenna and I know that will show as a fault as it isn't connected! Unticked 77 etc...

 

Still the same, error 22 thrown back every time I try to code it. Tried all sorts, just about to give up on it and maybe try another RNS 315.

 

It seems strange that I can't code any option onto it. 

 

Any further ideas before I go splash some more cash ???

 

Cheers

 

Cris

37 - Navigation & 56 - Radio are (in a Columbus) basically the same thing.

 

Coding changes in one are reflected in the other. Have you tried coding it in 56 - radio?

 

Have you checked that both module shave the same coding applied?

I don't think it works like that in the RNS 315. Tried it, I can't code anything as it says module not found. I don't think this is related to the Error 22 issue I am having.

 

Cheers

 

Cris

try coding it again but add 00 to the end

try coding it again but add 00 to the end

 

Just run out to try it, throws this error...

 

 

I tried something different, I tried to program back the exact same code that is reported to be in there already, I get the same Error 22 !!!

 

So it is nothing to do with the code I am actually trying to change, but the ability to code the RNS315 at all !!!

 

I think that is a little step forward in my understanding of this problem.

 

Cheers

 

Cris

Have you contacted Ross Tech?

Have you contacted Ross Tech?

 

I will do.

 

I'm thinking that this unit might be faulty anyway. It's not keeping station presets etc....

I was leaning towards that conclusion myself. But not knowing the specific error codes you are getting I didn't want to say anything.

Yep, faulty unit. Tried another one today, codes up fine with bluetooth etc...

 

Now a very happy Skoda owner

 

Cheers

 

Cris

Hello, How do you know it is faulty unit? Have the same issue, my RNS315 is not keeping station presets and other settings. Maybe it is something not compatible.