Evening gents. Done a few searches but nothing concrete. Haven't got the car yet as i've just ordered and waiting on a delivery date (hopefully soon). Looking at some very subtle mods (for now) so looking for recommendations. Mods to do are listed below.

 

40-50mm lowering springs - opted for the H&R

RARB - opted for the H&R and also front polybush kit

 

This is where i need a bit of help please.

 

Exhaust - need something that will give the car a nice throaty sound but not to loud for the two kids….LOL

Remap - this is the one that is the most important to me as I need a trusted and experience mapper to get the most from the car. I am based in the North East but willing to travel to get the correct service etc.

 

Cheers in advance.

 

Phil.

Enjoy your car when it comes.

Remapping it is invalidating your 3 year warranty on the Engine, gearbox and drivetrain.

It is a choice you need to make.

 

http://goapr.co.uk

And if you get an oil issue

All mods will invalidate the warranty but I am asking for advice on exhaust and remap not whether or not I have issues etc.

Edited 28 March, 201412 yr by phil555

The link is there to APR, and as i have not heard of any CTHE engines yet being Remapped, please let me know what they say about doing one.

I had a Milltek catback on mine - would definitely recommend it. Nice and throaty /low growl but not too anti-social lol! Looked lovely, nice meaty pipes out the back rather than the two standard pea-shooters.

LOL indeed.

TMC tuning box for a remap. Remove it when it needs a service or any warranty work...

Exhaust: get the centre silencer removed for a nice throaty sound. Only costs £60-£90

Cheers lads. Much appreciated.

The link is there to APR, and as i have not heard of any CTHE engines yet being Remapped, please let me know what they say about doing one.

 

Ref the APR upgrade. Do you know which company has high ratings for carrying out the remap?

Who are you near for getting the before Dyno, APR remap & then another Dyno done?

 

The TMC Tuning box is worth considering IMO.

 

&

I know which MAPs do not get high ratings for a 1.4 tsi Twincharger.

So really who does them does not matter,

maybe best avoid.

Who are you near for getting the before Dyno, APR remap & then another Dyno done?

 

The TMC Tuning box is worth considering IMO.

 

&

I know which MAPs do not get high ratings for a 1.4 tsi Twincharger.

So really who does them does not matter,

maybe best avoid.

 

Closest dyno is probably Motorscope at Northallerton. I am based in the North East (Durham) so not to sure who is the closet for the APR remap.

 

Thanks for the info.

You talk to APR or look at their Dealers on the site and talk to them. and go from there.

http://goapr.co.uk

SR8 2RD

 

See who offers a Package, to reduce costs exhaust and remap. done together

You talk to APR or look at their Dealers on the site and talk to them. and go from there.

http://goapr.co.uk

SR8 2RD

 

See who offers a Package, to reduce costs exhaust and remap. done together

 

Great. Thanks for all you help pal. Much appreciated.

Anyone heard of, used or recommend the below for APR remap?

 

This is on the approved dealer sites.

 

Automotive Solutions

 

http://richard-martin.co.uk/

Edited 29 March, 201412 yr by phil555

Given all the issues with the 1.4 Twincharger engine, I wouldn't get a remap but if you are utterly set on it I'd avoid APR as their maps are regularly associated with damaged engines (not just vRS Fabias, but lots of cars). You say you are North East, so try and find Richard Washbrook (Oscarli) or a Shark Performance agent. They are both likely to be more conservative than the APR map, but potentially are much less likely to give you trouble. Washbrook is the man who actually writes a lot of the remaps sold in the UK. His reputation is second to none.

Do you know,

or anyone here know of anyone running a 'Shark' Map on their 1.4 TSI CAVE or CTHE ?

 

There are some APR Stage 1's doing just fine.

& REVO Stage 1 removed after not doing so well.

 

george

Given all the issues with the 1.4 Twincharger engine, I wouldn't get a remap but if you are utterly set on it I'd avoid APR as their maps are regularly associated with damaged engines (not just vRS Fabias, but lots of cars). You say you are North East, so try and find Richard Washbrook (Oscarli) or a Shark Performance agent. They are both likely to be more conservative than the APR map, but potentially are much less likely to give you trouble. Washbrook is the man who actually writes a lot of the remaps sold in the UK. His reputation is second to none.

 

This advice is a touch misleading I fear and probably not specific to the 1.4tsi Fabia vRS.

 

I am not aware of anyone that has invested as much R&D into remapping this engine as APR, they are the only tuning house who both remap and have developed supporting hardware for this engine.  I have had several reaons to contact APR and their agent in the North West - Awesome GTI and always have felt supported.  As for conservative mapping, I am not entirely sure what this means but I imagine is a reference to safely extracting power from an engine without causing harm, well unlike REVO who people on here have used on a 1.4 vRS and had reported issues with I am not aware of anyone taking an APR map on this car and having issues, in fact I know that since their first map offered at Stage I APR have detuned their map slightly. 

 

My thoughts are that I would never get a custom map on this engine unless the mapper had significant experience with this particular engine 1.4tsi twincharger and DSG

 

I would support anyone who said never map one of these cars if there is even a hint that it is sickly, it will only be accentuated.

 

I probably would steer clear of REVO as their stage I has been seen to produce misfires on members cars on here and SCN.

 

 

And yes I am an APR fanboy, but not blindly, I researched them before I took the map, I talked to other people with their maps on this engine, had it put on and have been enjoying it since.  Full fat version Stage I here and my car runs great, has only ever misfired once pre-map due to 95 Ron put in by the dealer, never since mapping and running on 99, and apart from a hiccup in winter, pretty much doesn't use a drop of oil.

I am not aware of anyone taking an APR map on this car and having issues

Really? I know of at least two that have had major engine issues after APR remaps. Not including the infamous vrSy car.

in fact I know that since their first map offered at Stage I APR have detuned their map slightly. 

Why would they do that I wonder? I can really only think of one reason. The original map wasn't sufficiently safe and damaged customer's cars perhaps?

These engines are very, very, highly strung. Anyone buying a remap really needs to be VERY careful they choose wisely.

'vRSy' had a car to Stage 2 & then Stage 3.

 rather a different matter from the Stage 1 we were talking about here.

 

The warnings are constantly being made on here to make people aware that what they do is has risks with a 

Twinchargers more than with other engines.

& some Remaps pose more risks.

 

& the first thing is to be sure you have a good engine to start upping the power on.

& see what power it does produce before starting to tune.

Some do not even know what the Spark Plugs condition is.

'vRSy' had a car to Stage 2 & then Stage 3.

 rather a different matter from the Stage 1 we were talking about here.

Which is why I specifically said "Not including the infamous vrSy car" because the other two were Stage 1 maps.

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The warnings are constantly being made on here to make people aware that what they do is has risks with a 

Twinchargers more than with other engines.

& some Remaps pose more risks.

 

& the first thing is to be sure you have a good engine to start upping the power on.

& see what power it does produce before starting to tune.

Some do not even know what the Spark Plugs condition is.

I'm sure you're absolutely right, but if you ring up any remapper (including APR or Awesome GTi) do you really think they're going to talk you out of it? Of course they won't. And when you're got an extra hole where the piston used to be, they'll doubtless sell you all the bits to mend it as well. Some engines will take a remap, some engines need a very conservative remap, and some engines shouldn't be remapped at all.

The OP has said 100% he wants a remap. OK, if he REALLY wants a remap, then I'm suggesting he should be very careful. People are pushing APR. I'm suggesting something a bit less aggressive if it's the OP's primary means of moving his kids about.

Definitely do your homework on APR. That's all I'm saying.

Really? I know of at least two that have had major engine issues after APR remaps. Not including the infamous vrSy car.

Why would they do that I wonder? I can really only think of one reason. The original map wasn't sufficiently safe and damaged customer's cars perhaps?

These engines are very, very, highly strung. Anyone buying a remap really needs to be VERY careful they choose wisely.

Please share who on this forum had the issues and healthy cars pre-map so that I can apologise, they didn't come up on search.

The map was detuned because people with misfiring cars and oil consumption were still taking their cars for remap and sneaking them past the health checks and the cars were then not meeting the power healthy cars delivered and then developing issues that owners who should know better would blame on the map. But maybe this is all spin?

Pretty sure vRSy's experience is well documented and I'm fairly sure citing a Stage 3 development car is irrelevant.

I'm genuinely not looking for an argument, but I think both sides need to be heard so people can do their own unbiased research and decide.

Edit: please excuse the crossover of posting. I fully agree that people need to be honest with themselves about the health of their car and do their research, because mappers will take some precautions but will still burden certain responsibilities on the owner and are in the business of making money.

People (Sparkly & Me) are not Pushing APR for any reason other than, we have been living Twinchargers and researching and 

using the remaps.

 

We are well aware of most Tuned Twinchargers anyone reveals their story of.

I pretty well have read every Twincharger Tuning article there is anyplace to find in the past 2 years.

 

So its 1.4TSI CAVE & CTHE we are talking about, and not making sweeping statements on the well known reputations or 

in some cases opinions of someone that knows someone.

 

I am interested in who has had a CTHE Remapped by APR or anyone else.

& the Thread in the Performance Section from Evan@APR 

is not that full of help regarding CTHE ECU's

Yup, if REVO had been getting the positive results when I researched this I would have gone to them and probably made a trip down South as the tuning company which has been both friendliest and most supportive to me has been Alex's AKS Tuning who helped me sort a great group buy and get my handling sorted. He is a REVO dealer and I would trust his opinion.

My best mate at work has an R32 in show car condition with race cams and all running REVO stage 2 and loves them.

I can only communicate my research and experience.

PS

There is a new reply from Evan@APR concerning the Twincharger and APR in the Performance Section which might interest some or be of use.