Hi!

 

As a part of getting the oil consumption fixed, I had oil consumption test done. Due to me not speaking the local language well, I am having trouble explaining the bill to my extended warranty provider.

 

On the attached image, I understand the first part - the oil, software update + work.

 

However, how are these items related?

 

03C129721D COLECTOR (NR)

6R0129684E TUBO (NR) (2x)

03C103558A A  TUBO PURGA (NR)

 

Found some of the parts in the parts database, but I am not much wiser.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

Best,

 

Petr

From the Numbers, it is 

 

Intake Manifold Rear.   38 Euro

Connecting Pipes.        25 Euro

Vent Hose.                 27 Euro

 

So they did the Breather Pipe/Valve Mod  & ECU Update.

 

??

Did they do a Draining of the  Oil,  Fit new filter, Fill with New Oil, Drain & Weigh,  Refil,

& send you on your way?

 

??How many km to cover before they drain and weigh the oil again.

&

What was the weight of the Oil at the start of the Consumption Test?

 

george

What I am finding very interesting is the oil type 5W40!!!!

Some VWG cars leave the factory with 5w 40 Long Life oil in the engines.

 

& Skoda/VW Dealerships putting in 5w/ 40 Full Synthetic Long Life a Services,   It is totally acceptable.

Hold on, the manual the picture of which you posted George says flexi service needs VW 504.00 and the only oil with that spec is 5W30 from different manufacturers Only fixed servicing intervals allow for VW 502.00 spec oil, which indeed is 5W40.

So yes, if OP has it on fixed then 5W40 is OK. 

I have been posting that chart ever since it appeared after you posted it first all that 2 years ago.

(anyone looking at it needs to be aware, there are engines on that chart, and the Oil Capacity shown is wrong.)

 

At least he has a 1.4tsi from before they were given the code for Variable Servicing, so 502 00 is fine.

 

As with all 1.4TSI, Better with oil in rather than not, and not overfilled.

Hi, I was surprised about the oil too - I've always been filling it with 5W30 as it is on the flexible service intervals.

 

I do not have any more details re. the weights - this is the only document I've got. Is there any way to get information from the ID SEGUN INFORMACIÓN DE MARCA 2030474/2*?

 

Lastly, how do you recommend I describe it to the warranty company? Their initial translation was that this is some kind of air pump and is thus not covered by warranty. In my extended warranty coverage it says that every part connected to oil recirculation is covered, I guess I will make argument there.

 

Alternatively, as this really is not a "new" fault but one from manufacturing - is there any other way to approach it other than just passing the bill and pushing it through the extended warranty company?

zard,  

I understand you having a 'Warranty Company' covering the work.  

 

& a Dealership needs to Do an Oil Consumption Test,

Investigate, Diagnose & Skoda say a Breather Modification must be tried to see if it resolves the High Oil Usage.

 

But the Breather Modification has been proved over 3 years now not to work, and is a waste of Time, Parts & Money.

Usually Skoda or VW, Seat,Audi are paying.

 

Your Extended Warranty Provider will have every right to pursue Skoda to refund the Breather Modification Cost.

Skoda know this is not going to resolve anything, and an engine stripped and examined would show that to be the case.

Worn Bores, rings, or other faults are not repaired by a Breather Valve change.

 

Skoda know the Engine Faults, 2009-2012 Engine Build Dates.

If the Engine has to be Replaced it is over 5000 Euro.    Other Warranty Companies have refused to pay all that & Skoda had to provide engines,

or reach some agreement.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/208161-post-by-revo-ref-known-14tsi-faults

 

If the Warranty Company have to pay for an Engine, then that is covered by a 2 year Warranty on Manufacturers Supplied Original Parts.

 

You best speak with your Warranty Provider about the full costs.

The Breather Modification is unlikely to be the final expense.

 

all the best

george

Hello all!

 

I've got an update.

 

I've received a note from the extended warranty company that breather pipes are not covered by the warranty (although they do list "parts related to oil recirculation" in their coverage listing).

 

I am now pondering what to do - the bill for the breather pipe comes to around 380EUR, and it seems that I may need to cover it myself. The question is, to save myself hassle, shall I just pay this one and wait for another test, and if I fail that one, that would mean engine replacement, which should be covered?

 

Also, you say that Skoda was usually paying - is there any case of Skoda paying even outside of the original manufacturer's warranty?

 

 

Lastly - at the service, they filled the engine with 5W40 - I've got only 5W30 for the top-ups, can I top it up with it in case I get the yellow light?

 

Yes you can top up with that.

 

People have pursued Skoda.about work required after the Warranty expired because VW and Skoda knew the faults were there.

 They never took any action on Recalls or Service Campaigns.

People are losing financially due to the inaction of VW/Skoda.

 

 

Some Extended Warranty companies were not accepting that Skoda  did not know.

The Customer is Paying a Warranty on a car with 'no known faults',  the Manufacturer did know the high chance of the Engine Failing in or out of the Original Warranty.

 

Skoda have covered the cost of supplying Engines & Labour, or just the Engine.

Its going to be down to the Underwriters of the Warranty, and what actions they might or might not take against Skoda.

Skoda are owners of a Warranty Company, so its always going to depend who your Warranty is with.

 

I think its going to require you to take Legal action or Consumer Action in what ever Country,

But the Manufacturer being an EU Corporation should make things easier.

 

It is a Scandal sadly just how Volkswagen, Skoda, Seat & Audi have behaved over the 1.4 TSI Twinchargers built be VW.

Thank you very much for the details!

 

I am tempted to either just pay for the breather pipe and then push further should the engine change be needed and write a letter to Skoda at the same time.

 

Alternatively - is the breathing pipe different than the one fitted originally? If so, than it's not really a fix but replacement with an updated part, which I am not sure why would I be paying for it?

It does not repair the already damaged engine, it only delays slightly the failure of the Bearing & Rings, possibly the Valves,

but eventually the loss of compression of one or more cylinders..

 so really it is a Fraud VW coming up with the Breather Pipe / Valve Modification.

 

So if you pay now,  you can reclaim that along with the other Expenses you have had until Skoda Replace the engine.

 

You had best take Legal Advice on any action Required if you are going to be out of pocket and not have a vehicle of Merchantable Quality.

It is a VW, Design, Manufacturing or Workmanship fault.

 

VW knew that and Revised the Engines & Engine Management was required in 2012,

because they knew within 12 months of Launch that the 1.4 TSI CAVE Twincharger 

was in the main going to have no longevity.

 

Having a Compression test done by someone trusted might be worth while,

or a Full Independent Experts Inspection of the Engine, so that you have the necessary Evidence of the engines condition.

That is of course if Skoda are not going to do the right thing and replace the Engine at their Expense.

Zard,

how is it going, any improvement?

Zard,

how is it going, any improvement?

Hi!

 

I am going to have the pipes replaced soon, however, my extended warranty does not cover the pipes, so I have to pay for the whole thing.

 

Will see if it improves anything and in the meantime will be compiling letter to Skoda asking for compensation, as the "fix" is a replacement of perfectly fine pipes with their improved design, so even if it works I do not feel that I should be paying for their design updates.