My car is going to main dealer for a service, I'm also having the DSG oil and filter changed.

How can I tell if the job has been done other than my wallet being lighter??

When I had my Audi DSG problems a few years ago and had the oil changed a couple of times, they insisted the car was left overnight BEFORE they could touch the DSG oil. Apparently the oil is so sensitive to temperature it has to be completely cold in order to do what they need to do, and if the car had been driven at all that day they couldnt change the oil. Do Skoda say they can change the DSG oil in the same day - if so I wonder what has changed? 

Ok. I have no idea if what Bigpikle says is true or not, but if it is then they should be leaving the car over the oil pit in the workshot overnight.

Seems strange... I would have thought the oil change would be easier if it was warm the same as when you change engine oil, warm oil would drain easier than cold... 

The oil has to be an exact temperature (37c I think).

 

Basically the fill level is calculated based on the oil being this exact temperature. Any more or less and there will be too littlle/too much oil in the gearbox.

 

So yes they will either say they need it overnight or at the very least all day to allow the oil to cool enough for them to get it to 37c.

 

Phil

 The invoice itemised bill and a tick or added comment in your service book.(no guarantee, unless you watch them I guess)

 

Is the filler plug sealed?

There is one check you can do,

 

Under the air filter box the DSG filter is located top of the gearbox looks like a mini oil filter housing, you could possibly mark it in a way that later you'd know if it's been changed or not, I'd get some dust and oil and lightly cover the housing in the oil and then sprinkle the dust on it, if it's still there later you know it's not been touched, don't overdo it you just need enough to prove a hand unwound the housing,

 

The DSG service I think is a waste of time other than the filter and to check the level,

 

If I still had one now there's no way unless it was still covered under the 60k 3 year thing I'd be doing anything other than soaking a new filter overnight and fitting that,

 

There is a Youtube of a USA Jetta owner changing the oil, it comes out as clean as it went in when new which leads me to believe it's an over precaution, besides it's hydraulic not lubricating oil as such so it hasn't had to face the internal combustion process an engine oil would,

 

 

The oil can be bought at GSF and you must ensure it's the correct oil,

 

The oil should you change it must be at the correct temp and there is a selection process to perform with the gear lever to ensure it's correct, all done by monitoring it on VCDS,

 

Others have been scientific with it, they've captured the drain and measured it and simply re-filled the same amount,

 

You should gravity feed the oil from a long tube from above to below although if you have time you can slow fill through the filter hole but it is a slow process, less wasteful on excess oil in the feed tube though,

 

Basically the whole thing other than the filter is a £200 ripoff,

 

 

When mine was done I checked the housing and box, I found one drip on the filter housing which could've been simply to fox me, a good mechanic wouldn't leave fluid residue imo and the sump nut had a red seal on it, I questioned the VW dealer about it and I got a less than convincing we do that to indicate it's been done, you may want to get under her and check for this seal to see if it's a factory one or not, I wasn't convinced it was a dealer seal but hadn't checked prior to it,

 

Now before my "friend" pops in, I used to work for a VAG dealer and the mechanics had a nasty habit of ditching new brake fluid and booking the not done work time to bonus, so the OP is right to worry whether the job will be done.

Edited 7 July, 201411 yr by Supurbia

Having had long and expensive issues with my Audi DSG, I am more cautious about the service. I'm not disagreeing that its a waste of time from a mechanical point of view, but I'll not skip it.

 

I was told by the Audi service manager that as long as the correct DSG oil services had been done at the required times, Audi would basically cover any and all DSG related expenses even after the warranty expired (for a reasonable time). He said VAG were so paranoid about bad press and residual issues if problems with the DSG became a publicised issue, that would make big contributions to sort out issues even after the warranty expired - but only if the appropriate maintenance had been completed.

 

Needless to say I'll make sure mine gets serviced at the right times.

besides it's hydraulic not lubricating oil as such so it hasn't had to face the internal combustion process an engine oil would,

 

True to a point, but remember the clutches are 'wet' and immersed in the fluid all the time. So clutch friction material gradually builds up in the oil. 

 

This is the only reason the oil gets changed on a 6 speed DSG. The 7 Speed DSG with the dry clutch setup requires no oil changes during it's whole lifetime (officially at least). 

True to a point, but remember the clutches are 'wet' and immersed in the fluid all the time. So clutch friction material gradually builds up in the oil. 

 

This is the only reason the oil gets changed on a 6 speed DSG. The 7 Speed DSG with the dry clutch setup requires no oil changes during it's whole lifetime (officially at least). 

 

 

Very good point,

 

Mine was because I've seen the oil come out clean, so the filter must do it's job very well,

 

For anyone who fancies one it's a great bit of kit, it in my experience isn't unreliable, what it does have a trait of is needing a new DMF around 90k, you get a warning as the car sounds like a pebble in a washing machine when it's going and also you may experience a carrying on thud when stopping sharply,

 

But as a piece of tech it's pure class in my eyes.

Just mark any parts that should be removed with tippex or nail varnish etc.

For anyone who fancies one it's a great bit of kit, it in my experience isn't unreliable, what it does have a trait of is needing a new DMF around 90k, you get a warning as the car sounds like a pebble in a washing machine when it's going and also you may experience a carrying on thud when stopping sharply,

 

But as a piece of tech it's pure class in my eyes.

 

Yes, I couldn't agree more.......a brilliant gearbox. The DMF on my PD DSG is rattling away at 84,000 miles.....a real weak point, but I'd hope on the later CR engines the flywheels would last a bit longer. 

Yes, I couldn't agree more.......a brilliant gearbox. The DMF on my PD DSG is rattling away at 84,000 miles.....a real weak point, but I'd hope on the later CR engines the flywheels would last a bit longer. 

 

 

Can't blame VAG for that, that lands firmly at the feet of the Green Parties of the world, clutches are made of cardboard now and the dmf by design will always destroy itself eventually with two opposing forces battling it out.

Just mark any parts that should be removed with tippex or nail varnish etc.

 

 

Bad idea, if you can see it so can the tech, if he's a proud guy he's gonna be offended,

 

Best to do it like I said where they will assume it's traffic film built up.