As the heading says, vauxhall have pulled the lifetime warranty from the start of October. If you have already ordered a car from the factory you will still get it, if you order now you don't.

A lack of a lifetime warranty isn't the deal breaker for me, it's more that modern Vauxhalls are just awful.

It was a Lifetime of just 100,000 miles.

It was a Lifetime of just 100,000 miles.

 

Well humans on average only walk 110,000 miles, so it's close to being a lifetime http://snowbrains.com/brain-post-how-far-does-the-average-human-walk-in-a-lifetime/

Its not a Human Life under warranty.

so it is not really relevant is it?

 

& Cars used to be thought of doing 12,000 miles a year as averages,

so 8 - 9 years became a accepted life for vehicles in some Circles. Ie Car Manufacturers that want cars scrapped and new cars bought.

 

That is started to be far fetched really with some manufacturers,

they want them off the planet by 8 years old.

If no one buys new cars, the car manufacturers business models are dead in the water.

 

I suspect Vauxhall realised that they weren't selling any more cars just because they offered a 100K warranty, so why endure that potential cost. If warranty was the single most important thing to buyers, then Kia & Hyundai would be the best selling cars. The fact they're not, tells you all you need to know about the buyers decision making process.

If warranty was the single most important thing to buyers, then Kia & Hyundai would be the best selling cars. The fact they're not, tells you all you need to know about the buyers decision making process.

I think globally they pretty much are

And the Vauxhall warranty being not at all transferable must have had some effect too.

KIA / Hyundai ,  We know they are not the best thing since sliced bread.

 

A thing about Vauxhall is 'Motability & 'Motability Finance'

They are one of the biggest buyers of Vehicles in the UK.

Cars purchased with real money by Motability Finance & Leased to Motability Customers for 3 & 5 Years.

 

Then sold at Auction after 3 Years.

 

That was big business for Vauxhall UK, but is now reducing greatly,

as is the Fleet Sales, Driving Instruction Cars etc.

 

& the Warranty Thing is much less important to those buying cars on the Drip or Lease and returning them in 3 Years.

& Private Buyers are obviously Buying and Expecting a Warranty worth the Name for 100,000 miles.

that are maybe costing Vahxhall too much.

Well obviously they are, because Warranties without Warranty Claims cost very little.

I think globally they pretty much are

And the Vauxhall warranty being not at all transferable must have had some effect too.

Not quite. Volkswagen on its own was the second largest manufacturer in 2013 (by sales volume), Hyundai and Kia combined would come in only forth largest.

Volkswagen & the VWG did try to rise to the heady heights of biggest Manufacturer.

 

Its costing them because of Reliability Issues in other World Regions outwith the EU.

 

People thought German Manufacturing would be superior even when being built in Plants on Asia, South America etc.

They found out that there was lots of Kidology, Bluff & Bluster,

Bad design, parts and Quality control.

 

World Regions are falling out of love with Volkswagen, because of the need to force them to admit the likes of DSG Failures 

& the lies and cover ups in Australia, where the new CEO was forced to apologise over Engines and a Cover up Campaign.

 

Volkswagen need to be more open about failures, 

it is just not their Corporate Way though.

 

Volkswagen need to be more open about failures, 

it is just not their Corporate Way though.

 

So in that respect they are copying the Japanese.

Yes, but badly.  

& Toyota were smart, they admit mistakes.

 

http://jalopnik.com/5929251/the-ten-car-companies-with-the-most-undeserved-reputations

World Regions are falling out of love with Volkswagen, because of the need to force them to admit the likes of DSG Failures 

& the lies and cover ups in Australia, where the new CEO was forced to apologise over Engines and a Cover up Campaign.

There's nothing in the sales figures to suggest what you say is true.

 

Toyota (the world's number one car producer) had by far the largest number of product recalls worldwide in 2013 (6.4 million).

 

In the UK, Hyundai had the forth most recalls and Kia were seventh. VW wasn't in the top ten. (Top three were all Japanese!)

Its not a Human Life under warranty.

so it is not really relevant is it?

Too right.

I've got a car to keep my average mileage whilst walking down to the lowest thats physically possible...

... Without driving the car into peoples houses that is.

Too right.

I've got a car to keep my average mileage whilst walking down to the lowest thats physically possible...

... Without driving the car into peoples houses that is.

You're not meant to that?

I've been doing things wrong :(

My experience of Vauxhall vans has been interesting but that's probably as they're ex courier vans that are hammered and have rattles everywhere

jlwah. 

Nail on head,  they are doing recalls, even in the UK, VOSA / DVLA Safety Ctitical Recalls.

Chrysler gets find for not doing them quickly enough.

 

VWG do Service Campaigns.

 Silent Service Campaigns like the DSG in the UK.

Yes, but badly.  

& Toyota were smart, they admit mistakes.

 

http://jalopnik.com/5929251/the-ten-car-companies-with-the-most-undeserved-reputations

 

But some mistakes were only admitted after legal action started to mount in the US

 

Unlike GM who just carried on regardless.

Yes we know all that, or we do if we follow the Car Trade and such stuff.

 

More than Claims mounting, there were deaths.

Air Bags not Operating, not just Brakes not Working, Steering Problems,

Throttles sticking even if it was just the carpets.

 

The Up! Mii Citigo Air Bag sensor /controller is at least one recall done and safety critical.

Somehow VW got the DfT  / VOSA to accept the DSG causing Interruption to power or drive was not Safety Critical,

so a no Recall in the UK  / EU just a Service Campaign.

http://autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/vw-uk-why-we-dont-need-dsg-recall

 

http://dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls

Edited 6 October, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

Yes we know all that, or we do if we follow the Car Trade and such stuff.

 

http://dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls

 

Yes but GM really take the biscuit for not giving a ****.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_General_Motors_recall

Yes they do.

Taken the Biscuit, and the fines and not sure if some people are going to jail.

 

It is usually not the wrong doing, it is the cover ups that get the full force of the law.

Yes, but badly.  

& Toyota were smart, they admit mistakes.

 

http://jalopnik.com/5929251/the-ten-car-companies-with-the-most-undeserved-reputations

 

 

 Didn't thirty odd people in the US have to die first before they admitted the brakes didn't work? I'm not picking an argument but it seems the admission of failure had to come at a price (i'm not expecting other manufacturers would have behaved any differently)

Also i think that warranty was only valid for the first owner, i had a company insignia and it was so nasty it hurt my eyes and ears after only 6 months and was relieved to give it back, the build quality was truly shocking.

Also you just had to look at the cheap plastic wrong and it was marked for life, also i did lots of motorway miles but still had dpf issues, by the way I'm sorry but when vauxhalls are mentioned i feel the need to rant .

Also you just had to look at the cheap plastic wrong and it was marked for life, also i did lots of motorway miles but still had dpf issues, by the way I'm sorry but when vauxhalls are mentioned i feel the need to rant .

Vauxhall DMFs are made of cheese as well, I've shredded through a few in my history of Vx vans

Vauxhalls must be really cheap to have as company cars or something then?

Theres a stupid amount of insignias on the road.