Hi guys,

 

I've just bought Bolero (Blaupunkt) to replace the Stream radio in my 2008 pre fl Octavia, which has MFSW. I've checked before purchase what version of the can bus gateway is in the car and it's version "P" so hopefully there shouldn't be battery drain problem but I think the controller is not capable to communicate with the Bolero as the buttons on the steering wheel stopped working and also the radio doesn't come on when ignition is switched on.
So my question is, do I have to replace the can bus for newer one or is there a way how to code it with VCDS? If it has to be replaced, what version should I be looking at? Or any other low cost solution?

 

Cheers

You should be ok. L and up is what you need.

Yeah I think battery drain won't be a problem but I'd like to get the steering wheel buttons working with the Bolero

There is a software fix for the Columbus but not the Bolero I'm afraid.

I don't think changing the CAN will make any difference.

What steering controller do you have? If it is a lo-line or Mid-line then that'll need upgrading to a High-line to allow MFSW to function.

Did you change the airbag loom when you put the MFSW in? It needs a different one to allow full communication.

Even then you might not get all the buttons working properly (that applies more to a FL wheel in a pre-FL car).

KBPhoto, thanks for your input.

The car is Elegance spec and MFSW and maxidot are factory fitted, I have no idea how to determine if the controller is lo-line or the other. Can plug the VCDS in though but don't know what to look at. I'll post a picture of the wheel if that helps.

I put a bolero in my 58 plate which has MFSW and I was pleased to find that most of the steering wheel buttons worked ok without any intervention. IIRC the ones that don't do anything are the two most left-hand ones (I think they're for jumping to the next CD). I'm afraid I have no idea what controller is fitted, though.

Sadly that's not my case. I'd be happy if volume controls and next/prev buttons work but all are doing nothing with Bolero :(.

If you already had MFSW fitted then the controller and wiring loom are all the correct ones.

The problem lies elsewhere. Let's start eliminating simple (and cheap) solutions.

I know it's a pain, but put the Stream back in and see if it all works.

Does anything about the Bolero work at present? If not, check the fuse in the back of the Bolero while its out.

Check to see if the fuse for the radio in the car hasn't blown when you fitted the Bolero.

I'll see what else I can think of. Where abouts are you?

Yep the Bolero itself works well except, as stated above, won't come on when ignition is switched on, has to be switched on manually. But this looks to me like part of the problem with communication car <=> Bolero.

The buttons worked fine with Stream and worked the day I swapped the radios but stopped with Bolero. Will put the Stream back tomorrow after work, it's dark now

I live in Salford, M7.

Mike beat me to it!

 

I don;t think this is a communication issue caused by a 'wrong' controller being in place, but a coding issue.

 

You'll need access to VCDS to do this and to make any changes to controller '56 - Radio'.

 

If I get a chance, I will have a look and see what I can find on it.

Could this be a protocol issue? I.e. Bolero coded to BAP but car expecting other? I have no experience of this but sure I have read about it somewhere.

Could be. The Columbus can be switched between the two.

No idea about the Bolero though.

What year is the Bolero from?

Have you recoded the Bolero module to tell it that steering wheel buttons are fitted? If the Bolero has come out of a car without a MFSW then they won't be coded. Without coding properly, the MFSW won't be able to communicate with the head unit.

 

Gateway is fine, so will the buttons on the steering wheel. I'm convinced this is a coding issue. 

 

Mike

Hi Mike, no I haven't recoded the Bolero module. Didn't know I have to but hopefully this thread will help me with it . I think that the radio comes from the car without MFSW, waiting for response from the previous owner to confirm that.

 

 

Mike beat me to it!

 

I don;t think this is a communication issue caused by a 'wrong' controller being in place, but a coding issue.

 

You'll need access to VCDS to do this and to make any changes to controller '56 - Radio'.

 

If I get a chance, I will have a look and see what I can find on it.

Hi Karl, I've got VCDS so should be able to do the changes myself but will need a bit more info than this.

 

Yes Karl, I agree it can't be the wrong controller. 

 

When I got the car, it had a retrofit Bolero already in, with the gateway P, and all worked. Fair enough it didn't have the MFSW then, but as soon as I got the car I swapped out the Bolero for the Columbus and still everything worked. Then the MFSW went in, and thinking about it there was a change in module 16 Steering wheel that needed to be made, as it was not originally coded for MFSW. 

 

But the OP's car obviously IS coded for MFSW as it works with the Stream, so I think the coding problem must lie in the Bolero (address 56). There may well be a fault code showing in address 56 about no communication in databus or infotainment.

 

Mike

I'll check for the fault code when I get home.

 

Hmm, you are very probably right.  That would explain why the head unit needs to be manually switched on and off. 

Mike 

In fact it doesn't come on when ignition is switched on but comes off if I take the key off from the ignition. This doesn't bother me at all though, easy to switch it on but of course if it can be altered, that'd be even better.

 

Could be. The Columbus can be switched between the two.

No idea about the Bolero though.

What year is the Bolero from?

Have asked the seller about the year as well, waiting for his response.

 

I'm at work so will get on it with VCDS when I get home late afternoon. If this helps I took photos of the stickers on the radio before it was plugged in.

Weird things happen...

Went with VCDS to see what I could do with it. Turned the key into position 1, radio didn't come on. Have switched it manually and for some reason the buttons on the steering wheel started working. Scanned the car and as you said Mike, there was a fault code related to radio:

 

01304 - Radio
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 216342 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 17:05:23

 

After the fault codes been deleted, Bolero comes on if I turn the key into position 1. So basically everything works as expected. I do even have artist/song info on maxidot.

Just a note, as Sarge pointed out in post #6, the buttons behave exactly as he describes.

 

Thanks a lot guys for trying to solve this with me.

Happy days

Don't suppose you had ignition on between changing the stereo? That would cause the intermittent communication issue. The Bolero obviously wouldn't work properly until faults were cleared out of the system.

Don't suppose you had ignition on between changing the stereo? That would cause the intermittent communication issue. The Bolero obviously wouldn't work properly until faults were cleared out of the system.

No ignition was off all the time. When I bought the car there was (non working?) parrot 9200 module connected to the radio, sitting on the plastic cover under the steering wheel so I disconnected all the cables and took it out, maybe this triggered the fault.

Hi people!

I know this is an outdated thread, but i just got an Octavia 2008 pre FL. It isn't young car, but it's in fantastic condition, i love it and it's a big jump from my Fabia. I would like to swap my Stream MP3 to Bolero. My car is equipped with MaxiDot and MFSW from the factory, so i suppose i don't need to change the CAN gateway. Battery drain probably won't be a problem as well.

My question is, will the Maxidot display the songs/stations or if not, is it possible to code it somehow through VCDS (i do have it, so i can do it if it's necessary).

My another question is, how it is with the MFSW? Will it be fully functional? I have seen in some older posts that some buttons do work, some don't. Is it possible to learn the new HU to "talk" with the steering wheel, or it will be only half functional?

Also, i have heard that i will loose the ability to see the picture from the parking sensor (original, factory fitted) and the picture from the Climatronic (this one isn't a big deal since i can see the temperature on the small displays). It is possible to code the Bolero to show the parking, or i will loose that forever?

I have also heard, that there are 2 different types of Bolero, from different manufacturers, and they come with different HW/SW combination, so i also need to pay attention on the manufacturing date of the Bolero. Is this true?

 

Thanks!