this is a sort of "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it make a sound?" Question :-)

Driving face up from Oxford, using the ACC, a question popped into my head as the car brakes with ACC on, do the rear brake lights come on? I assume so, but just wondered ;-)

I would also assume so as the brakes are being applied. The YouTube guides I've seen I'm sure that the lights come on.

However regenerative braking on hybrids do not light up, for example on the PHEV.

But that's a totally different thing.

Yes they do, with ACC the car can brake the vehicle to maintain a certain speed and when it does the brake lights do illuminate.

The brake lights also come on when front assist intervenes and needs to brake.

Octavias dont have it but my Mk7 GTD has an e-handbrake with auto hold. I have noticed that when auto hold is active the brake lights also illuminate although I am not depressing the brake pedel. Its all rather clever!

The May 2013 update to the manual which I have just downloaded does cover this, on page 144 it clearly states that if the brakes are applied when slowing using ACC the brake lights illuminate, it also says that if more than one brakelight is not working then ACC is disabled.

 

That is reassuring, but reading the number of instances where it can give problems, bends, vehicles changing lane etc., make me wonder if it may be more trouble than it is worth?

 

I am at an early stage of considering purchase of a MkIII and information about the various options and their value will be useful.

tried it for the last time last night, it's really very good

I have to be honest, I dont think I would pay the several hundred £ that Skoda ask for it to have it on the car. Normal cruise is more than adequate.

That said having ACC on my Golf and having used it a bit, it is rather good and it hasnt done anything daft to me as yet....it genuinely works and is useful, even on a manual. Front assist I am honestly not so sold on as I think there is potential to cause accidents just as much as it can prevent them (if it false alarms with some berk too close behind....the car will brake with no awareness of whats behind)....but it is useful for telling you that you are perhaps too close to the car in front, and its not at all annoying.

But again I would pay for neither.

yeah I'd agree with that as regards cost, luckily for a while there they were doing it for free. I've not yet tried the park assist though. Not at all sure I will use it that much

I have to be honest, I dont think I would pay the several hundred £ that Skoda ask for it to have it on the car. Normal cruise is more than adequate.

I will never go back to regular CC now.

I love the ACC. Its simply brilliant. Its really nice in rushtraffic combined with Dsg.

I really want to try the ACC that the new Audis get. It reads the map and brakes for curves.

Edited 8 July, 201510 yr by Gromle

I will never go back to regular CC now.

I love the ACC. Its simply brilliant. Its really nice in rushtraffic combined with Dsg.

I really want to try the ACC that the new Audis get. It reads the map and brakes for curves.

On another point, I noticed that the sat nav shows the speed limit, but when I stopped in a straight road, it did not appear again until I actually went past a speed limit sign. Now I know I don't have lane assist and therefore I should not be able to get traffic sign warning, so on 16my is there an intermediate or has thus always been the case on Amundsen sat navs?

On another point, I noticed that the sat nav shows the speed limit, but when I stopped in a straight road, it did not appear again until I actually went past a speed limit sign. Now I know I don't have lane assist and therefore I should not be able to get traffic sign warning, so on 16my is there an intermediate or has thus always been the case on Amundsen sat navs?

I dont know. I have Lane Assist and Columbus, so it pretty much shows the speedlimits all the time.

Octavias dont have it but my Mk7 GTD has an e-handbrake with auto hold. I have noticed that when auto hold is active the brake lights also illuminate although I am not depressing the brake pedel. Its all rather clever!

 

The hill hold / auto hold on my DSG vRS certainly keeps the brake light on until i pull away / the hill hold self release - i'm sure its the same on the wife manual scout but the hill hold isn't quite as intuitive i find as you have to go into neutral i think.

this is a sort of "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it make a sound?" Question :-)

Driving face up from Oxford, using the ACC, a question popped into my head as the car brakes with ACC on, do the rear brake lights come on? I assume so, but just wondered ;-)

Indeed they do.  haven't you noticed those annoying people in heavy motorway traffic that ride the brakes all the time?  That's ACC wearing your brakes out at twice the normal rate

I will never go back to regular CC now.

I love the ACC. Its simply brilliant.

 

+1

Definately worth the money in my opinion.

Particularly if you regularly do lots of motorway/A-road driving it makes driving much more comfortable.

ACC .........never had any form of cruise..................BUT the ACC is great for the A9 with all those specs cameras!!....................Also very good to be stuck behind a lorry & you are approaching the duel section, just press the + button a couple of times for 70mph to show & the car just keeps it's distance but it is holding it's self, then when the dual starts just pull out & off she goes!!........no need to put foot down the car does it automatically!!............

The hill hold / auto hold on my DSG vRS certainly keeps the brake light on until i pull away / the hill hold self release - i'm sure its the same on the wife manual scout but the hill hold isn't quite as intuitive i find as you have to go into neutral i think.

The manual will Auto Hold when in gear & clutch depressed

A point to note aswell is that if you stop using Auto Hold, you can flick the handbrake switch and it will turn off the brake lights. Much more pleasant for the driver behind

I didnt think the Octavia had auto hold, it does have hill hold, where it keeps the brakes on for about 3 seconds before releasing them on a slope.

Hill hold basically keeps all the brakes on until you physically tell it not to or drive away whatever the gradient. I am sure this only comes with the e-handbrake that is installed in the Golf and other VW/Audi cars. Its v good other than now and again it sticks a bit. Those that have or have had a Mk7 Golf or various e-handbrake equipped Audis will probably be familiar with it. Auto hold has an £80 option on most A4/A5 models not so long ago so alot of those dont have it.

I agree ACC is a great bit of kit but I wouldnt be spending £700 or so on it to put it on an Octavia; its not £700 good a bit like the bi-xenons arent £1100 good but its all v much a matter of opinion.

Frankly given how bad the early depreciation has been on the O3 glad I took a base spec car (apart from a spare wheel I wouldnt be without)!

Edited 10 July, 201510 yr by pipsypreturns

 as the car brakes with ACC on, do the rear brake lights come on?

 

When ACC physically applies the brakes, the lights will come on. The same for all other features front-assist & the 2nd impact system after a crash.

 

When ACC is reducing the speed by reducing the "virtual" accelerator position or when ACC is coasting (pedal position is 0%) and the speed is decreased through engine braking/friction/road gradient etc the brake lights will not be on.

This is the same as if you drive in manual mode & just lift off the accelerator pedal.

When ACC physically applies the brakes, the lights will come on. The same for all other features front-assist & the 2nd impact system after a crash.

When ACC is reducing the speed by reducing the "virtual" accelerator position or when ACC is coasting (pedal position is 0%) and the speed is decreased through engine braking/friction/road gradient etc the brake lights will not be on.

This is the same as if you drive in manual mode & just lift off the accelerator pedal.

Exactly...with ACC/Front Assist the car can use the brakes when required...when it does the lights come on. With the ACC if it can retard the throttle/engine brake sufficiently then it wont use the brakes.

Have to agree with pipsypreturns, I wanted ACC/Front assist but at £700 option added to the fact the car will drop in price like a brick, I knocked it off my option list. Though you could argue that electric seats are a waste of money but I did tick that option (as my other half will also be using the car).

doubt I would have paid for it but as it was free during may and june.....

 

now that I've got it, would I be without it? Hmm mard to say after just 4 days with the car. It's certainly going to get more use than the pano sunroof on the yeti ever did so in that sense it's a good add on. 

 It's certainly going to get more use than the pano sunroof on the yeti ever did so in that sense it's a good add on. 

 

I paid 800CHF for it (about 550gbp).

My rationale was that it will get used every day I drive the car, so for say 300-days a year over 5 years it works out at 36p per day.

but when you are only keeping the car a short time or on a credit scheme its pperhaps less of a case for it.

I paid 800CHF for it (about 550gbp).

My rationale was that it will get used every day I drive the car, so for say 300-days a year over 5 years it works out at 36p per day.

but when you are only keeping the car a short time or on a credit scheme its pperhaps less of a case for it.

 

even better when it was free with the auto parking option too

I got ACC as standard on my car, no need for option ticking, same with the spare wheel... :p

I got ACC as standard on my car, no need for option ticking, same with the spare wheel... :p

But then vw charge a lot more for your car

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This thread makes me wish I ticked the box :( I did get front assist though so I wonder if I have all the hardware for ACC? Is there an extra stalk?