The EM light went out a couple o days ago, but the flashing glowplug symbol came back on this morning, complete with "limp" mode.

Hardly unexpected, but since unlikely to be covered by the extended warranty, being, I presume DPF related, might as well get her "Doctored" locally?

ie. no DPF or EGR and software rewritten to suit.

A 5 years old (bar 1 month) I have no reason to be concerned about invalidating any warranty.

Cheers

Marcus

hmmm

got codes read and logged on a memory stick, by my Indy.

Back to Skoda again tomorrow morning.

Faults were

(i) EGR fault (the same as the last time he scanned before the visit to Skoda where she mysteriously got an "all clear")

7343 - EGR Sensor 2
P0407 00 [032] - Signal too Low

 

(ii) 3 DEP faults (which Vinny says will almost certainly be due to the common EGR issue, as above)

7397 - Diesel Particle Filter; Differential Pressure Sensor
P2454 00 [040] - Short to GND

7347 - Diesel Particle Filter; Differential Pressure Sensor
P2453 00 [040] - Implausible Signal

7346 - Diesel Particle Filter; Differential Pressure Sensor

P2453 00 [104] - Implausible Signal

 

(iii) Canbus/Gateway fault, Infomation system in single wire operation

 

1 Fault Found:
00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation
 011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

 

 

(iv) Dvrs. door mirror fault (which I was aware of)

 

And

 

Skoda says: "no Faults"

How very very bloody strange!

Marcus

 

PS

 

The "next car in front WILL be a Toyota", or a Honda, or a Hyundai,

anything but a bloody VW group product, unless stupidly stupidly cheap, & complete with a free lifetime all inclusive warrenty.

I would be prepared to pay for the Insurance and fuel however.

Edited 17 August, 201510 yr by dieseldogg

I can't help but think you are dismissing the likelihood of a successful claim under your extended approved Skoda warranty too soon.

 

Now the car is displaying warning lights on the dash and is in limp-home mode it is time to get it into another dealer for a proper diagnosis.

Ah Ha!

Limp mode was all too brief, and then a while after the  warning  lights all went out again.

Anyway I forewarned the dealership, mid day today,  as to what the Indy had "read" and that I had recorded same.

The full fault code file on a memory stick and on my work computer.

 I will take the memory stick with me to cross reference if they try and tell me "no faults" again.

I simply cannot accept that these self same fault codes were not present on my last visit on 7th July.

And were simply deleted.

Before I was absolutly and firmly told "no fault codes"

Despite the intermittent and prolonged flashing glow plug symbol and EML in various permutations, which EML light did not go out until the morning immediately before the Skoda diagonstic

Despite the (known to me ) long time established  defect in the drivers door mirror throwing a code(the heating element does not work), but even this did not get a mention.

Silver,

I am absolutly absolutly not a conspircy nutter, but I am really really starting to have my doubts re Scheming Skoda Skulduggery.

Cheers

Marcus

This was why I suggested using another dealer if possible.

 

The EML, flashing glowplug light and limp-home all log fault codes, so unless your indy deleted them before you took it to the Skoda dealer they either haven't checked or have reason to send you on your way.

Silver, unfortunately 100% correct, but my Indy was blameless in respect of any possible deleting of fault codes, since it was probably a month between my visit to the Indy and the Skoda visit for diagnostic, with the 2 warning lights on the  dash lit several times, in various permutations  in between the 2 visits.

This car has already cost Skoda significently more than its production cost in one massive and extended  botched warranty claim and (it must be said) a very generous compensation package i.e 5 years warranty and all servicing ( they also paid the full MOT costs for the Steyr Puch van, as WELL as keeping my in a hire car, for over 3 months) , plus all my legal  costs, hence my suspicions.

We only have 3 Skoda dealers in NI, and this particular lot are highly regarded, plus I vowed NEVER to darken Abrahams dealership door again after their woefully poor treatment in the first instance.

I have also been attempting to "build a relationship" with their mostly decent friendly staff.

Cheers

m

Well, 'Lord bless us 'n save us!!

I Am now back in a courtsey car while they "fix" my own, starting with the DPF, (& they def appear to be avoiding acknowledging the logged EGR fault) , quite providentially I experienced another brief flashing glowplug symbol, complete with "limp" mode, just as I pulled across the Bypass this morning on the way to R'Town dealership.

I then stopped briefly, after 3.7miles driving from the cold start, to collect the memory stick and all was 100% again.

Cheers

M

Edited 18 August, 201510 yr by dieseldogg

Ah, I hadn't realised that there was previous history between your car and Skoda UK.

At least it now sounds as though the dealer is able to see the issue for themselves, resulting in the courtesy car.

Fingers crossed for a swift resolution.

What was the original issue you had which resulted in the compensation? Could it be related to the current DPF / EGR issues?

A DSG transmission "glitch", which apparently I know more about than Skoda, causes the transmission, with no warning whatsoever, to "drop" out of gear, when attempting to pull away slowly, on an incline, out of a tight parking space for instance.

The engine, being over-ruled by the transmission, (I can only presume), "ignores" the incremental slow throttle input, hold revs at tickover, then "drops" out of gear after moving perhaps just a fraction.

Same behavouir is demonstrated on a flat grassy area due to the rolling resistence of the ground and grass.

Purely a software issue, but "they" replaced 2 mechatronic units, then the clutch pack, then the entire transmission.

Nett result = exactly the same errant behaviour the day and hour I got her back (after 3 fully elapsed months OTR")

Fault code then read by an accredited motor engineer in England,

then boy o boy, after I contacted Alasdair Stewart direct, Skoda "threw a strop", when they inadvertently found out the deal PB (of Skoda UK) had offered me, after this prolonged ineffectual repair shambles, ( & just before PB  left for another job, I understand)

"Glitch" still not fixed, but I cannot afford, or rather refuse to risk paying the £20,000.00 High Court costs if I contest it furthur.

Already down £600.00 for the Engineers report (which described the defect as "potentially dangerous")

Plus the cost of taking the car to England (would have been nearer £2,000.00, for the Engineer otherwise)

Plus £500.00 up-front to a Barrister, for his Expert opinion.

Plus, as yet unknown personal legal costs (and it is a VERY thick file)

So me definately no fan o Skoda's "Customer Experience" so far.

Marcus

PS

Other cars from within the VW empire were also returned to dealerships with EXACTLY the same fault as mine exhibited.

And Despite, entire replacement transmissions (in one documented case of a VW Golf) still the same fault after the "repair"

Hey guess what Skoda !

Its not a hardware issue, its the Bloody Software.

PPS

Erm! me being a farmers Son, will drive 'er till she's done, regardless.

Edited 18 August, 201510 yr by dieseldogg

Hey Ho, they finally  fitted a replacment EGR, which hopefully will last another 5 years/80,000 miles.

But btw, ah found out, when I went to extend the courtsey car's insurance, that ah  bin running about uninsured this past 48 hours, since my insurer failed to insure the courtsey car, despite me witnessing L...... (at the dealership) make the call.

 

That took a full 1/2 hr on the ph to sort out.

cheers

marcus

PS

Now got 30 days to try and get the DSG GLITCH fixed.

sigh

Ok

I got the Octavia back pm yesterday, no monies changed hands, all done under the warranty.

BUT!

I grilled the service manager, to no avail, in respect of the apparent shortcomings of their official franschised dealer Skoda diagonists, that does not apparently "find" recorded and time-stamped fault codes, that the indy had found on multiple occassions, and I had duly recorded on the laptop.

Also the 24 delay, that  was due to them only & apparently subsequent to fitting the EGR, finding  that they also needed a DFP sensor, which fault code was clearly recorded , in serial order of repeated occurance, on my laptop.

Completely "stonewalled"

Ditto re the drivers door mirror fault.

Which according to Skoda, does not exist.

Marcus

But you now have a fully working EGR and DPF sensor?

 

That is at least a £1,000 bill your extended warranty has covered, so some positive news surely?

Well yes Sliver, but I am apparently a  prefectionist, honest!, (per several work related independant psycometeric tests.)

Not always a wholly desirable trait I appreciate.

Regards

Marcus

Deeply disappointed, I got the invoice in the post this morning, only £795.00, and paid by Skoda.

Would I have said only £795.00 if I had been paying, prob not!

marcus

Hmmm

I tink I noticed the A/C pully bearing starting to murmer/grumble today, surely tis  worth a punt