http://bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06q6nh2

Edited 23 November, 201510 yr by goneoffSKion1

Thanks for the pointer.

Should stir up the emissions thread too.

Sorry my bad.

Looks like postponed tonight for a Terror in Paris-Panorama.

On this monday (23rd) instead

Start of the Action plan, to save money and get themselves out of the CRAP.

 

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/volkswagen/vw-cans-100m-design-centre-as-part-of-1bn-cost-cutting-drive/

This silly lady never realised she could have punished her cheating husband more by leaving him with his VW.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Eacam8LjV3w

Edited 23 November, 201510 yr by goneoffSKion1

More from the BBC.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-34857404

This silly lady never realised she could have punished her cheating husband more by leaving him with his VW.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Eacam8LjV3w

George,

Good to  read that you have a lot of love for your vRS's ParentCompany!! lol

More from the BBC.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-34857404

"After prepping the car to the letter of the regulations, the lab ran the standard Euro 5 emissions test. It's the same exam this model of car would have had to have passed before it went on sale.

And it passed. Emitting just 167 mg/km of poisonous NOx gases. The Euro 5 limit is 180 mg/km.

VW's clever software knows when it's being tested, because the routine is the same every single time. Starting with a cold engine, in a lab that's between 20 and 30 degrees centigrade, it's then driven for six miles on a rolling road, no turns, with exactly the same gear changes at exactly the same times, and all within a speed at two km/h either side of set limits.

The whole thing, including some idle time, always lasts 20 minutes and 20 seconds.

So, we then tried to trick the computer into thinking it was out of the lab, by simply accelerating hard a few times, taking it above motorway speeds. Straight afterwards, we ran the Euro 5 test again, but with one simple difference. We started with a hot engine this time.

The same car failed, spectacularly. Emitting 435 mg/km of NOx (remember the EU limit is 180 mg/km).

So, drive the same drive, but fool the car into thinking it's on a real road, and it chucks out two-and-a-half times the amount of pollution as before."

Ouch!

Stuart

 

 

What it would look like out in the real world.

 

One of many of this type of Video from the US.

So VW knew what a car needed to know and signal to pass tests.

They installed the Defeat Device that could ensure they did.

Edited 23 November, 201510 yr by goneoffSKion1

"After prepping the car to the letter of the regulations, the lab ran the standard Euro 5 emissions test. It's the same exam this model of car would have had to have passed before it went on sale.

And it passed. Emitting just 167 mg/km of poisonous NOx gases. The Euro 5 limit is 180 mg/km.

VW's clever software knows when it's being tested, because the routine is the same every single time. Starting with a cold engine, in a lab that's between 20 and 30 degrees centigrade, it's then driven for six miles on a rolling road, no turns, with exactly the same gear changes at exactly the same times, and all within a speed at two km/h either side of set limits.

The whole thing, including some idle time, always lasts 20 minutes and 20 seconds.

So, we then tried to trick the computer into thinking it was out of the lab, by simply accelerating hard a few times, taking it above motorway speeds. Straight afterwards, we ran the Euro 5 test again, but with one simple difference. We started with a hot engine this time.

The same car failed, spectacularly. Emitting 435 mg/km of NOx (remember the EU limit is 180 mg/km).

So, drive the same drive, but fool the car into thinking it's on a real road, and it chucks out two-and-a-half times the amount of pollution as before."

Ouch!

Stuart

Are you still keeping the faith!

Are you still keeping the faith!

No. It's bloody awful.

Are you still keeping the faith!

Wavering!