Hi, I currently own a 2015 skoda superb 2.0 and i have a couple of issues with the car and it is currently booked in for the 11th for them to have a look at and just though I would get some opinions on whether i'm going to have a hard time getting them sorted or not as i have my doubts and this is the first time I have bought a new car and had to use a main dealer.

 

Firstly the turbo oil return pipe is leaking slightly on the banjo fitting that connects it to the block, it has only put a few drops onto the undertray in 8K but I presume it won't be much of a job for them to put a new washer on it or replace the 'o' rings whichever it uses.

 

Secondly, I have a lazy lifter that makes a tapping noise usually for a few seconds when i start the car and odd occasions it will continue to tap until the engine warms up. I do have video evidence of this but deep down i know to cure this it will probably need a new set of lifters or some other work on the head and I have a feeling they will try and fob me off and say its just a characteristic of the engine. Has anybody else had a problem like this on the 2.0 140?

 

Thirdly, yesterday when cleaning out the car i noticed a few drops of water in the front passenger footwell, it had dripped from above onto the piece of foam and then onto the carpet. I am well and truly dissapointed by this as i know the passats suffered from water ingress in this location and i'll be damned if i got rid of my leaky passat and bought a new car for it to have the same problems.

 

Apart from that the car seems to be ok, I guess i'm just a little bit dissapointed that a new car has all these problems. If i wanted a car with loads of issues from wear and tear and neglect i would of bought an older one which i normally do.

My 2011 CR140 can be a bit tappety on a cold morning, it has done it since new and soon disappears, usually after a few minutes.

 

The water ingress is not good, hopefully something relatively simple like a break in the seal around the windscreen.

I've had 2 CR170 (CFGB) Superbs (2010 and 2013) and BOTH have suffered lazy lifters. I would think the CR140 lifters are the same as the CR170

 

On the odd occasion after starting, I get that familiar tapping from the engine for a few minutes when stone cold. Sounds like an old CVH Escort! 

 

The 2010 Superb went well over 100k with it and no problems, my current 2013 Superb is at 60k, again with no problems. 

 

The oily banjo shouldn't be a major problem, and the leaking screen might be a case of replacement, possibly due to a flaw in the sealant bond when fitted at the factory. You might have to learn to live with the noisy lifter as that might be difficult to get sorted under warranty if it doesn't affect the car's performance. It'll be classed as a 'characteristic'.

Thanks for the replies.

It's good to know people have had lifter issues and it hasn't caused them any long term issues. At least you can't hear it in the cabin

A friend at work recommended an oil additive that got rid of his lifter noise and made his engine run silky smooth however I'm always reluctant to mess with the oil in modern engines just in case it has any long term effects on lubricity or causes damage to the DPF.

Has any body else used these products?

Thanks for the replies.

It's good to know people have had lifter issues and it hasn't caused them any long term issues. At least you can't hear it in the cabin

A friend at work recommended an oil additive that got rid of his lifter noise and made his engine run silky smooth however I'm always reluctant to mess with the oil in modern engines just in case it has any long term effects on lubricity or causes damage to the DPF.

Has any body else used these products?

 

I tried frequent oil changes as well as using a few well known, tried and tested oil additives in an attempt to cure it. Nothing worked....

 

My engine was at about 50,000 miles when I tried this out. 

 

I wouldn't recommend using any form of oil or fuel additive that isn't approved by VW. Especially on such a new car. 

Another vote here for not using any oil or fuel additives.

I think i'll just leave it alone then if they aren't prepared to fix the lifters.

 

I had a closer look at the water leak earlier on and the water is coming out of the bottom of the blower/motor housing and also the pollen filter is saturated with water and had a few drips coming out of the bottom also. Are there any other weak points that leak as i think if it was the windscreen it would be leaking in right down the back of the bulkhead.

 

I thought it was a blocked air con drain at first but i don't think i have been using it that much to create enough condensate for this to happen which makes me think it might be coming from the intake under the scuttle panel maybe.

 

I'm toying with the idea of trying a hose on the windscreen to try and replicate it but its going to the dealer on Monday so i might just leave it to them

The A/C evaporator is located in the middle of the dash so any leaks from a blocked drain would most likely come from that area.

Check to see if any water can build up underneath the plastic scuttle panel as it sounds like It's getting in through the fresh air intake which is located at the base of the windscreen under the larger perforated section of the passenger side panel. Shine a torch in there and see if any debris has worked its way in.

Failing that, the dealership will probably have to re seal the joint between the intake and the bulkhead it runs through.

Thanks I did have a quick look in there and couldn't see anything, i didn't fancy taking the wipers off at this point to have a propper look. Is it possible to just remove the seal and pry the cover up for a better view?

Isn't the leak covered under warranty?

Yes it is, but when you have had second hand cars all your life and repair them all yourself it's hard not to do a little bit of investigating

I really do suggest that you get your car booked in and all sorted via your dealer under warranty and DONT touch anything yourself; mess with it and you could end up invalidating the warranty. All manufacturers will use any excuse to avoid paying up, and if the dealer does find evidence of you poking-around, they'll report it to SUK and you'll be boogered...

Thanks for the advice but i havn't been too intrusive, i can't see me taking the pollen filter out to have a look at it being an issue. The cars booked in on Monday, i just hope they can replicate the leak and get it sorted.

Dropped the car off and had a word with the workshop manager.

 

regarding the oil leak he said that he would most likely order a new banjo which will require another visit to fit it.

 

The water leak is a common problem on the intake which is a foam 'seal' that absorbs the water and allows it to drip down the intake which involves sealing it all the way round with sealant (sounds like they used the same foam strip that used to cause problems on the old passat and superb)

 

He also said that he would investigate the lifter noise but it didn't sound bad enough to warrant repairing. It looks like the only way you can get that sorted is if it still makes the noise after the engine has warmed up.

Sounds like the issues should get sorted fairly easily. As long as the lifter isn't clattering at full operating temperature, it'll remain as a characteristic of the engine. 

Got the car back yesterday but they only completed the service as the banjo bolt has to be ordered and apparently my scuttle panel was tight so before the water leak fix is attempted they are ordering a new scuttle panel just in case they break it.

 

Also I'm a bit disappointed there is no service book, just the invoices

I hate the omission of service books these days. Would't be so bad if you could log onto an online portal with your VIN to view/retrieve your service record - especially when selling your car. 

Car has been in today to have a new Banjo bolt fitted and the air intake sealed up. Fingers crossed they have done a good job and touch wood there will be no more issue with the car for a long time

Good news. Hopefully this will cure the problems once and for all. Just keep an ear out for that lazy lifter. Mine only does it on the odd occasion, and goes away as soon as things warm up 

I think I've come to terms with the fact that i'm better off with a lazy lifter than endless engine trouble after a repair has been attempted. After all, you can't hear it in the cabin so its not a big issue really and if it does get terribly worse or starts doing it when warm I've still got 2 years warranty left