It asked you to complete it?? VbV was killed off last year; I havent a clue why the dialogue box still comes up on so many sites, because it just says "no need to verify" and goes away again.

 

No seems to be automated now. You get the same little mini window (iFrame I assume) usually the vbv pops then goes away. With FF it popped up and stayed.

It asked you to complete it?? VbV was killed off last year; I havent a clue why the dialogue box still comes up on so many sites, because it just says "no need to verify" and goes away again.

VbV hasn't been killed. Neither has the Mastercard equivalent. If you use the same computer, card, a retailer you have history with, shipping address or a previously used shipping address then VbV will automatically authorise the payment providing no other security/fraud measures kick in.

My bank sent me a leaflet on the improvements last year.

I havent had a VbV challange, regardless of history, in over a year; in the run up to Christmas I ordered stuff from a variety of new websites in France, Germany, USA and China, not once did VbV do anything except say "no need to verify".

 

When was the last time you had to verify??

 

BTW, the tech sites reported BOTH the Mastercard and Visa systems were being dropped 18 months ago, as they werent fit for purpose; I have suspect that the continued pop-ups are just to keep face. After all, they only introduced the systems a few years ago.

 

Expect them to be quietly dropped sometime this year.

For the record, I went through a VbV verification for an online payment 3 days ago.

 

Not sure where the info that it's been killed off is coming from? Have you got a link to that?

I can assure you the Mastercard one works as had to do it on a screwfix order using the works card last week.

The no need to verify message means you've satisfied a number of the criteria - likely the token is still on your machine, or because you are shipping to your billing address or one previously verified by VbV.

If you often buy from China, fraud measures probably wouldn't bat an eyelid unless it was outside your usual pattern of spending.

This will explain things better and that VbV hasn't been dropped - it's just smarter now

http://www.nationwide.co.uk/support/support-articles/security/verified-by-visa-vbv/verified-by-visa

The story was on the Register back in 2013/14; can I ask what bank you use??

 

I am First Direct and seriously HAVENT had a challenge since 2014 on my Visa card, or Visa Debit card, despite spending thousands online each year; I put down a £900 deposit with a French rental agency last Summer - never used them before, and a pretty large payment, so I should have been challenged then.

 

I cannot comment on Mastercard though, as I only use it for interest free balance transfers.

 

Just found this https://threatpost.com/visa-mastercard-removing-passwords-from-3d-secure/109393/

You would need to ask Firstdirect, but every other bank has similar guidance to Nationwide so must be a visa thing.

You would need to ask Firstdirect, but every other bank has similar guidance to Nationwide so must be a visa thing.

 

Did you read the link, Visa and Mastercard said they were dropping the password challenge, although they were very coy about what they were replacing it with. I was never happy with VbV, because it initially used XSS cross-site scripting, an avenue well known and used for injecting malware into websites; I dont get those warnings any longer, so I assume they changed the method at some point.

Natwest for me, with my 'Verified by VISA' online payment on Saturday.........

Did you read the link, Visa and Mastercard said they were dropping the password challenge, although they were very coy about what they were replacing it with. I was never happy with VbV, because it initially used XSS cross-site scripting, an avenue well known and used for injecting malware into websites; I dont get those warnings any longer, so I assume they changed the method at some point.

 

Yes a PITA I had a switch off NoScript to let it work since it picked up the XSS. Incredibly stupid for a piece of security to need that.

Did you read the link, Visa and Mastercard said they were dropping the password challenge, although they were very coy about what they were replacing it with. I was never happy with VbV, because it initially used XSS cross-site scripting, an avenue well known and used for injecting malware into websites; I dont get those warnings any longer, so I assume they changed the method at some point.

But I cannot find any other mainstream media reporting this.

It could simply be confusion with the constant need for a password being replaced with the intelligent algorithms to decide whether to prompt for the password - which is what nationwide and others are reporting to their customers.

This suggests the same as the link from nationwide http://m.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/14/mastercard_visa_killing_off_password_auth/

FF version ? I'm running W7 &10 (although I seldom go on line with 10) ,with FF 43.0.4 and get few problems. This comes in form of FF shutting down, though I'm tempted to suggest it's finger problems by me .

This suggests the same as the link from nationwide http://m.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/14/mastercard_visa_killing_off_password_auth/

 

Yeah, thats the one I remember reading; too busy to go digging for it though.

FF version ? I'm running W7 &10 (although I seldom go on line with 10) ,with FF 43.0.4 and get few problems. This comes in form of FF shutting down, though I'm tempted to suggest it's finger problems by me .

 

43.0.4 seems to be stable; I know several people who have been having problems wit the 0.0, 0.1, 0.2, and 0.3 releases.

 

My PC hasnt crapped out since installed 43.0.4.

Still struggling with the benefits of a 64-bit internet browser.

 

We appear to have diverted into an online payment discussion......

Still struggling with the benefits of a 64-bit internet browser.

 

We appear to have diverted into an online payment discussion......

 

I am trying to get it back.

 

As for benefits, I am not sure either; the browser window seems subtly different, and some websites are rendering slightly differently (better than before); now the damn thing isnt blue-screening every 5 minutes, it seem to make the screen look newer and fresher, it is hard to describe.

Still struggling with the benefits of a 64-bit internet browser.

 

We appear to have diverted into an online payment discussion......

 

FF has always liked a lot of memory. Now it's 64bit it can use even more

FF has always liked a lot of memory. Now it's 64bit it can use even more

 

Seems much the same - 466MB in use; which is waaay too much, but not much different from the old 32bit version; it has been running a long time though.

FF has always liked a lot of memory. Now it's 64bit it can use even more

Slightly O/T, but a programmer will tend to use as much memory & space as the systems allow .

I just looked, FF is using 454,422KB of memory; the next largest program is using 79,600KB

Upped to FF 44.0.1 ,memory usage is approx 308500kb , next is DWM at 18k.

Well it looks like most of my problems were not FF, just a coincidence they started at the same time as the brand new SSD I had fitted started dying.

 

A new SSD (different brand), went in last week and I have had no further issues.

 

Next up, SWMBOs HDD died and no matter what drive or disk, or DVD drive I try, her PC BSOD's while trying to install Win7 (and just freezes when trying to install Mint); having eliminated nearly everything from the equation, I am beginning to suspect the cpu or mobo is also dying - as less than 2 years of age. The cooler is stone cold, so I know it isnt a heat issue.

 

I broke two cardinal rules with this shop bought PC, a Seagate HDD and Gigabyte mobo; it would be just my luck if BOTH have died at the same time.

GG-something you possibly know ,but Seagate & Maxtor are same company and both do bootable CD HDD test stuff ( they also do a floppy version if your Mobo supportsa floppy).

Try http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/support/downloads/item/seatools-dos-master/

Actually I did know, I have several Maxtor drives, but they are all from BEFORE Seagate bought them out - note I said "I HAVE"; the youngest of those drives is an IDE drive, yet still going strong with no errors.

 

SWMBO issue was the Seagate HDD; the damn thing was only 18 months old, and had a grand total of 56GB written on a 1TB drive; something has "gone wrong" and the drive firmware seems unable to fix it, even using SeaTools, so it has been RMA'ed - although I dont know if they will honour the RMA.

 

Seagate have very strict requirements for packaging a returned HDD; so strict it is ALMOST impossible to meet them; they demand a particular type of mailing box - that can only be bought in packs of 8,000..........

 

It's Sod's Law, I threw out some very sturdy Toshiba HDD packaging only a week before SWMBOS drive died.