Anyone here installed the new 64bit version and having issues??

 

There have been several updates since the launch a couple of weeks ago, yet since the day it installed my PC has been experiencing slowdowns, lock-ups and BSODs; I did a "Refresh" yesterday which cleared a lot of the problems, but my PC has still had THREE BSODs today.

 

Prior to this, I have only had 1 BSOD in the past YEAR!

 

I am not 100% convinced FF is behind all of the issues, I also fitted a new SSD (cloned the OS over to it), but it tests as fine, so I am at a loss.

Got the ff upgrade, on our win7 laptop. havnt had any bsods, or particular hangs etc. Though i could be paranoid, i think ff is running slower than it used to? Longer start time and some pages seem to be loading slowly..

I think I've installed it.

 

I checked for some indication that is was the 64 or 32biot version but could find anything other than the installer.

 

No issues at all so far.

Mine started with start-up taking longer; then I stared getting "white-out" "Not responding" issues with certain flight search sites, and extreme internet slowdowns then a full blown BSOD. (7MB of Epson drivers were apparently going to take 17 days to download)

 

Over the next two days the white-outs and BSODs became a constant factor, a "refresh" got the pages working again, but the slowness and BSODs continued; however, since installing the latest FF update and rebooting yesterday evening, the system seems stable again.

 

I think Mozilla went a bit "Microsoft" on the release, they had a critical rated update out less than 24 hours after the 64bit version went live, and I have had at least 3 more updates since then, so an average of 1 update every 4 days!!!

 

One annoying thing, the 32bit and 64bit installers have identical file names, I went to install on my daughter PC, so that flash games would work, and I had the wrong version (her old PC is 32bit).

 

One really confusing thing; after a few of the BSODs, on reboot I have found the BIOS boot order changed!!

I did notice the live feed on a website wasn't working - http://www.thecourier.co.uk/weather-live

 

TBH I just assumed it was something I'd done in no-script and didn't bother to look further.

I spoke too soon, a white out and BSOD on speedtest.net. Got a REALLY REALLY long set of error message numbers.

 

I would suspect the only new hardware, the new Chinese SSD, but EVERY BSOD so far has been while FF was running.

 

The test accompanying the BSOD says " A thread or process vital to the running of the system has unexpectedly stopped".

What's the actual benefit of a 64-bit internet browser?

 

Sounds like an awful lot of pain and inconvenience, for no benefit. Unless I'm missing something......

FF has become bloated and really slow. Their solution is to tell you it's slow and give a load of meaningless things to try before telling you to disable everything.

Moved from FF the chrome years ago and only use it for a few sites which don't seem to work properly in chrome. As soon as they fix their coding, I'll ditch it completely

Yep, in the same camp myself. Haven't used it in quite some time now.

Test for now is to back up your FF install and remove it.

 

If you see an inprovement, that was the problem.

Why not stop using FF for a few hours and see if the problems go away.  Although I suspect it might be your cheap chinese SSD - any web browser is going to access to the disk, so if it still crashes when using Chrome, or something else I think you would very quickly spot the issue.

Anyone here installed the new 64bit version and having issues??

 

There have been several updates since the launch a couple of weeks ago, yet since the day it installed my PC has been experiencing slowdowns, lock-ups and BSODs; I did a "Refresh" yesterday which cleared a lot of the problems, but my PC has still had THREE BSODs today.

 

Prior to this, I have only had 1 BSOD in the past YEAR!

 

I am not 100% convinced FF is behind all of the issues, I also fitted a new SSD (cloned the OS over to it), but it tests as fine, so I am at a loss.

version -i'm on 43.0.4. With the occasional shutdown .

version -i'm on 43.0.4. With the occasional shutdown .

 

Same version here.

 

I have spent the afternoon running SMART tests on ALL my HDD and SSD drives, and only one is showing ANY fault - a Seagate Barracuda. That doesnt really surprise me, not only is the Seagate the oldest drive in my set-up, EVERY drive I have had that has failed has been a Seagate; I have had drives from WD and others going back to sub-GB size that are still going in the Nursery childrens PCs.

 

The KingDian SSD drive is currently the home to my OS and all my active game files, so the fact it only BSODs when FF is active is significant, I have been gaming for the last 90 minutes, and running a big file back up from the Seagate to my NAS, without any issues.

My previous Chinese SSD is now in my daughters PC and was doing sterling work in mine for most of last year as the OS drive. With read/write speeds a bit lower than the current  top TLC drives (540/480), but random read/writes much better due to MLC construction, I trust these just as much as I would a Western branded one; plus you get 240GB for the price of a Western 120GB drive.

 

 

Actually, I tell a lie, I have had another HDD fail - a WD, but as I know my sister kicked the ship out of the PC it was running in on a regular basis, I am not surprised, OR blaming WD, luckily it was still within warranty, so WD replaced it. NOT that I told my sister that, I made her pay for a new drive.

(My sister and computers do NOT get on).

FF has become bloated and really slow. Their solution is to tell you it's slow and give a load of meaningless things to try before telling you to disable everything.

Moved from FF the chrome years ago and only use it for a few sites which don't seem to work properly in chrome. As soon as they fix their coding, I'll ditch it completely

 

Too much stuff I use doesnt have an equivalent in Chrome; plus using it would give Google even more data on me (I use Noscript to block all Google services except email by default, and only turn on the ones I use when I want to use them).

 

Until now I have never suffered FF slowdowns, I do believe Mozilla when they say a lot of the complaints have been caused by badly written addons, not the underlying FF code itself. In the past I have found numerous unwanted addons appear that cant usually be removed, but a refresh gets rid of them - it is a pity you cant pick and choose which to remove and which to keep. It would save having to go through the list and reinstall the ones you use.

Ive moved to FF64 at work to solve some issues.

Issues resolved on out intranet solution and multiple logins and user accounts. But I do get FF crashing once a day st least!

Never had this with IE Or Chrome.... We shall see if it gets worse or if IT get Chrome patched.

Too much stuff I use doesnt have an equivalent in Chrome; plus using it would give Google even more data on me (I use Noscript to block all Google services except email by default, and only turn on the ones I use when I want to use them).

Until now I have never suffered FF slowdowns, I do believe Mozilla when they say a lot of the complaints have been caused by badly written addons, not the underlying FF code itself. In the past I have found numerous unwanted addons appear that cant usually be removed, but a refresh gets rid of them - it is a pity you cant pick and choose which to remove and which to keep. It would save having to go through the list and reinstall the ones you use.

If you use Gmail, all other efforts to block Google are worthless as every email, what you do with it and a host of other data is processed by Google just by using Gmail. You cannot avoid that.

All Google services act similarly. You cannot stop everything.

If you use Gmail, all other efforts to block Google are worthless as every email, what you do with it and a host of other data is processed by Google just by using Gmail. You cannot avoid that.

All Google services act similarly. You cannot stop everything.

 

gmail is used for incoming carp from webpages that insist on an email address; I use Blur random email address's and direct them through a gmail account as it doesnt really matter if gmails spam filters block 99% of them. Google doesnt really learn much about me, as I also do sign-ups and on-line orders for non-tech savvy people, so the emails come from companies selling everything from baby toys to geriatric medicines. I have checked how much info Google has on me, and it is VERY little - it cant even guess my browsing preferences.

 

BTW, gmail will work with most other google services switched off/blocked.

 

 

AMAZON on the other hand, knows EVERYTHING; it seems to keep records of everything I have ever looked at on their website - going back to the day I signed up, MANY years ago.

Edited 9 January, 201610 yr by GentleGiant

But even getting emails sent elsewhere then sending them through Gmail you're wasting your time other than as a spam measure.

Google, like every other free mail service, scans every part of your email (headers, addresses, all content including attachments) and uses this information to build a profile of you and interests so it can display ads to you.

Before you mention ad blockers and any other measures, almost all of the big ones have agreed with Microsoft, Google, Apple etc some ads will go through unblocked. An increasing number detect blocked ads and won't display content without the ad blocker being disabled - Johnston press do this on their local newspaper sites.

Ref email apps, you can install all the anti tracking measures you like, but as soon as it passes through your Gmail or Hotmail server they can access the data going through it. There's nothing you can do about that.

I see no steenkin adverts, but then I have NoScript block EVERYTHING, and only unblock enough to make a site work; if they wont allow a sales site to work without adverts, I take my business somewhere else; same as PayPal, I go elsewhere unless there is NO other choice - I have made precisely ONE transaction through the PP system in the last two years, and complained to the shop about not having the choice and that I would go elsewhere if another seller offered it through a normal e-commerce system.

 

PP are not registered in the UK for the financial services they offer, so are technically an illegal operation - not that any government department is willing to take them on; this means if they screw you, you have no come-back under law.

You might not see the adverts, but Google are still receiving your email, so they're still building that profile of you. I think that was the point gadgetman was trying to make. I agree though, I'm privacy concious where I can be, but the usability of Gmail (and the fact I don't have the hassle of running my own mail system, been there done that) is too compelling for me.

But as I said, you can view the info Google has stored on you, and they basically have nothing of use on me; because I help out so many elderly technophones, what goes through my gmail account makes no sense.

 

The FF refresh I did this week meant I had no addons working for a few hours, the adverts I saw were totally random, nothing of interest or relating to anything I personally want or do (so basically PPI and penis pill ads)

Judt as GentleGiant, I instinctively dislike Google's ambition to keep tab of me. Hard to avoid, especially with an Android phone, but I try to keep G at bay as much as possible. Plus thst I prefer FF's interface.

But IIRC, Chromium (OS version of Chrome) is at least slightly better in this respect?

Back on topic, I left my PC running a cache thrashing program all night Friday, then left a FF window open all day Saturday with no BSODs, so perhaps the last FF update has fixed the issue.

Now you've pointed out FF issues I think I am noticing more.

 

It's definitely flakier than the last version of 32bit.

 

Had issues paying a credit card bill last night. The "verified by visa" bit wouldn't complete with FF. I had to switch to Edge.

It asked you to complete it?? VbV was killed off last year; I havent a clue why the dialogue box still comes up on so many sites, because it just says "no need to verify" and goes away again.