Have been reading good things about the new VW Golf 1.0 Bluemotion. Even seen and sat in one in my dealer following yet another visit with my unreliable Polo. Now the dilemma is. For many many years I have had diesels and if I was to buy a Golf or Octavia the plan would be to keep it for many years and accumulate a decent mileage.

So in the long term would you go for a well known reliable diesel (1.6 110ps) or go for a modern highly stressed 1.0 TSI ( in the Golf) petrol hauling around a heavy car and working its guts out!

I can't get my head around tiny engines in big cars!!!'

Opinions please?

Edited 21 January, 201610 yr by threadbear

Well the way that Diesels are going and the way that opinions are slowly changing in the eyes of the EU, it's a bit of an unknown if their days are numbered or not. 

 

If you are planning to keep it many years, it'd go for the petrol. My next car is 100% going to be petrol.

 

You'll be surprised what these little engines can do!

Edited 21 January, 201610 yr by Ally_bassman

I think I'd go for the 1.2 TSI instead - it should be a fair bit quicker than the 1.0 and won't be any more costly to run.

Maybe best leave these early small engine but big cars from Volkswagen to see how they pan out.

But actually they might be the best VW build and down hill from there on.

 

Ford seem to do it better so far though, 

but again its at 6 years plus and 100,000 miles before we know if they were any good really.

 

Maybe VW should put a 5 Year 100,000 mile Warranty on their 'New Technology' if they have faith in it, Bluemotion, ACT / COD etc,

and then get the Official Dealerships trained up better on Service & Maintenance and Service Schedules, reporting Snagging Faults etc.

Yes the real test of these small engines in a 100000 miles. I have heard of issues with manifold problems with the Ecoboost. Not sure how true that is.....?

Will certainly give the 1.0 TSI a drive when the opportunity arises. The salesman said that the situation at Volkswagen had calmed down a bit now and were adding an extra discount on top of the dealer deposit contribution.

Edited 21 January, 201610 yr by threadbear

Did the Salesperson mention that the VW Polo 1.0TSI Bluemotion was one of the 9 Vehicles that VW's inquiry into the Co2 Irregularities 

had 'dodgy test results'.   

No need for that to reflect on the Golf 1.0TSI Bluemotion, but you need to get an extended test and see how real word use is on the economy and how the performance is for your use.

 

???

What has calmed down at VW.   They have not resolved or fixed any cars, all they have is less customers and sales 

and the Calm Before the Storm.

Your salesperson might be at a Hyundai Dealership or the likes soon, or even moved on to something more classy like Dacia (Renault.)

Edited 21 January, 201610 yr by GoneOffskiroottoot

He meant that when calming down that the initial outrage following the emissions scandal. But you are quite right about the 1.0TSI issue. Am aware has been following the threads on Briskoda.

Would need a decent test drive. Driving round the block is no good for anyone except the dealer!

SWMBO has a 1.2T in her Quashqai which seems just wrong but it actually works ok with a couple of caveats.

 

I suspect this would apply to all small turbos but obviously I don't really know.

 

If you get the wrong gear dropping the revs and coming off the turbo you have no power at all, really frighteningly nothing. Car will hardly move until the turbo comes back on again.

They run out of puff. Overtaking in the Mrs car can be a bit scary since it just seems to hit a brick wall at about 80 (private road of course m'lud).

 

Either side of those problems the engine works fine plenty of power and torque for zipping about town and out on the road. You just have to be aware of the limitations.

 

One other thing is that the fuel economy is nothing special. SWMBOs 1.2T replaced the 1.6. It makes similar hp but more torque. Fuel consumption is about the same mid 40s. Which again is about the same as her previous 2.0 petrol 1 series.

 

I suspect these ickle turbo engines are cleaner but not really that much better on fuel.

Thank you for the feed back and opinions. And the video. Guess the only way is a decent test drive. I remain to be convinced.

I'd imagine it's like the twinair in fiats. It's a good engine but in real term use falls way short of the manufacturer's figures.

Again to eco Aspman (and agree) off turbo is rubbish and it has to be worked hard to get it going.

For example the citigo would go into 5th at 30, and be happy to poot about town. The twinair hated 4th on the same route, needing 3rd most of the time.

According to the Volkswagen website the best torque figures are at 3500 rpm. So It is the case of keeping the revs up or going nowhere I'm just to driving around at about 1800-2000 revs in my Polo and occasionally going up to 3000 rpm in acceleration. Totally different style of driving.

Have you considered a 1.4 TSI ACT / TFSI COD engine car with DSG?

DSG isnt for me! But thank you for the suggestion!

Petrol VS Diesel, surely it'll be down to the miles and types or journeys you do?